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This is a doozey. Long live the swarm. No formation restrictions.

FI -
Tervi, Terma x3 broods - Spawning tervi must reroll 1s.

FII -
Prime, 3x War broods - 18" synapse

FIII - (wow)
Flyrant, Crone, 2x Harpy, 3x Garg broods - Garg have Objective Secured (controls objective even when enemy scoring unit is in range of that objective), Garg have Endless Swarm (4+ goes back into ongoing reserves, same everything)

FVI -
Exo, Bio x3 Broods, 1Warr Brood (biocann) - Unis in formation within 12" of Warriors can reroll scatter, also Pinning

FV -
Horma x3 broods, Terma x2 (or 3 depending which version you download) broods, Warr brood, - Endless Swarm

Our wings will block out the sun.

Wow, that third formation is absolutely awesome.
The 4th one essentially giving us 2 extra Heavy Support slots is nice too.

 PrinceRaven wrote:
Wow, that third formation is absolutely awesome.
The 4th one essentially giving us 2 extra Heavy Support slots is nice too.

Actually, more, since each unit of Biov is a separate unit that can add 2 more. So really, 4 HS and 1 troop.

Edit - Also, rule for the 1st formation contains the option for the 30terma tax for a troopTervigon but it doesn't use "detachment" language, it uses "army", so it might be possible to use this formation to buy another Tervi for our troop allotment that also rerolls 1s. So, if you just love tervigons, you can spend 120 + 120 points in two terma squads in this formation to buy the formation Tervi as troop, and another in our primary detachment as troop, and one more 40p tervi squad to complete the primary detachment restrictions. I'm sure this will be a source of contention.

Wow, that's even better. I need to convert myself some Biovores.

Well, I have a reason to buy another harpy now.

Oh my... that Exocrine/Biovore formation almost looks "auto-include" for my local meta.

If I could afford 50 Gargoyles I might fall in love with that flyer setup too.

Wow.

I think I'm the only one in love with #2. Warrior Prime and 3 Warrior broods to give out an 18" Synapse?

And you could take an Endless Swarm or two along with that?

Great googly moogly.

Good formations all around. I can't wait to see it for myself.


Consider this thought, as well - if 7th edition allows out flankers to assault again, the lictors and genestealers from RL I could see some serious play as well.


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citadel wrote:

 PrinceRaven wrote:
Wow, that third formation is absolutely awesome.
The 4th one essentially giving us 2 extra Heavy Support slots is nice too.

Actually, more, since each unit of Biov is a separate unit that can add 2 more. So really, 4 HS and 1 troop.

Edit - Also, rule for the 1st formation contains the option for the 30terma tax for a troopTervigon but it doesn't use "detachment" language, it uses "army", so it might be possible to use this formation to buy another Tervi for our troop allotment that also rerolls 1s. So, if you just love tervigons, you can spend 120 + 120 points in two terma squads in this formation to buy the formation Tervi as troop, and another in our primary detachment as troop, and one more 40p tervi squad to complete the primary detachment restrictions. I'm sure this will be a source of contention.

Why not just make one brood 30x strong so the required tervigon is a troop and be done with it? Then it's just an 80 pt tax to make the tervigon reroll 1's.

Well, the idea would be to get a second tervigon that rerolls 1s in its spawning in your primary detachment. You'd end up paying 40 more points overall and still have room for two flyrants + HS and whatever else you want.

Wowza. Kinda makes up for the lacklustre codex and inability to get allies in a way with all the options, but terrible in the sense that they didn't just include it to begin with and you have to pay for it separately.

*sigh* Dem's the breaks for Nids players. At least you're getting off better than CSM, they only have the Black Legion Supplement so far which pales in comparison to the swarm of dataslates Tyranids have been getting.

citadel wrote:
Well, the idea would be to get a second tervigon that rerolls 1s in its spawning in your primary detachment. You'd end up paying 40 more points overall and still have room for two flyrants + HS and whatever else you want.

Yea but that seems to stretch from RAI. Data sheets are currently contentious enough already without crossing that line. I'd just be happy enough with one super tervigon honestly.

Also I haven't done the math but doesn't re rolling 1s increase your chances of rolling doubles?


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 Grimskul wrote:
Wowza. Kinda makes up for the lacklustre codex and inability to get allies in a way with all the options, but terrible in the sense that they didn't just include it to begin with and you have to pay for it.

*sigh* Dem's the breaks for Nids players. At least you're getting off better than CSM, they only have the Black Legion Supplement so far which pales in comparison to the swarm of dataslates Tyranids have been getting.

Eh. I'm less pessimistic about it - the way I see it no other codex includes formations so the fact that tyranids have these extra ways to play is just bonus in my eyes.

Correct me if im wrong, but does F3 allows you to take total of 3 Flyrants, 5 Harpies and 4 hive crones????

With F3 you can do

3 dakka flyrant
4 crone
2 harpy
3 scoring Garg units
2 scoring Terma units

or some variation thereof, with 10 points leftover

@tetris yeah, that was the source of contention I was mentioning, but RAW it is possible. I imagine any TO would not allow it. And yeah, increase chance of rolling doubles, but I have gotten trip 1s and double 1s on my intial rolls before so having a chance to NOT do that ever again is pretty awesome.

I'm not a big fan of tervigon anyway, so just 1 outflanking in the primary detachment is just fine for me.

Excellent. The next 2 and a half hours will crawl by

Wow at this rate the next slate will be giving us 'Assault Tunnels'.

Thanks for the info OP, the new formations look awesome.

citadel wrote:
Well, the idea would be to get a second tervigon that rerolls 1s in its spawning in your primary detachment. You'd end up paying 40 more points overall and still have room for two flyrants + HS and whatever else you want.

I may be an old fuddy duddy....but I read that to be; One 30x Brood lets you take a Terv as a "Troop". The Formation lets that Terv be a "super-Terv".
If you take a second 30x Brood, you can take another Terv as Troop, but it does not get the Formation special rule....?

pinecone77 wrote:

citadel wrote:
Well, the idea would be to get a second tervigon that rerolls 1s in its spawning in your primary detachment. You'd end up paying 40 more points overall and still have room for two flyrants + HS and whatever else you want.

I may be an old fuddy duddy....but I read that to be; One 30x Brood lets you take a Terv as a "Troop". The Formation lets that Terv be a "super-Terv".
If you take a second 30x Brood, you can take another Terv as Troop, but it does not get the Formation special rule....?

Ah yes. My bad. Must have missed that in my inspirational haste. Only one with the 1s rerollable, Thanks for the catch.

Wow. I'm actually excited for the new dataslate now.

I promise that you will see batreps with 3 flyrants.





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Crap! I just thought of something!

5 flyrants at the 2K Double-FOC Golden Throne tournament....possibly!

B-b-but my vanilla zero comp 40k doesn't allow this!

Honestly looks frikken awesome, and definitely bodes well for Orks with that 'endless swarm' stuff

I am buying this dataslate, no questions asked. The only problem will be convincing my wife that another $1000 in models is a good idea.

Any ideas? Lol...

It looks awesome.

It also reads like it's being written by someone who has a proper vision of what Tyranids can be. I mean, just read the passage on the preview page describing Leviathan looking down on Satys like a cold, ineffable god. It's really good stuff.

Why the Codex itself is so bland and so lacking in new material (other than Shadowbrink) when they can produce this sort of quality is beyond me...

Xyptc wrote:
Why the Codex itself is so bland and so lacking in new material (other than Shadowbrink) when they can produce this sort of quality is beyond me...

"Let's sell them a $60 rush-job then make them buy all the good stuff that should have been in there for $54."

Wait, 3 Biovore BROODS? Up to 9 Biovores and an Excocrine outside of FoC, leaving 3 Heavy Support slots free for Dakkafexes and Mawlocs? Sign me up!

Tervigons re-rolling spawn rolls of 1 will pretty much be an auto-include for me, too, since I alread roll with the required models in my standard lists.

Skyblight looks a bit mad, too. I'm gonna need me some new gribblies. Lots of them. My bank manager is going to hate me...

Anyone done the maths yet on the Tervs that re-roll 1s to spawn? Do we have a revised average number of gants per battle? I am assuming that the chance to get doubles is unaffected (you will reroll double 1s, but might sometimes reroll a 1 and end up with a duplicate of another number you already rolled), but I've not actually done the maths for this part either...

 Abandon wrote:
Wow at this rate the next slate will be giving us 'Assault Tunnels'.

With the current theme of vanguard (Invasion) and then swarm (Predation), I'm expecting the final dataslate to be based on the Consumption phase of invasion.

Yep folks! That means formations based around Haruspex, Pyrovores and Rippers! Yay!

 xttz wrote:

 Abandon wrote:
Wow at this rate the next slate will be giving us 'Assault Tunnels'.

With the current theme of vanguard (Invasion) and then swarm (Predation), I'm expecting the final dataslate to be based on the Consumption phase of invasion.

Yep folks! That means formations based around Haruspex, Pyrovores and Rippers! Yay!

Broods of 5 Pyrovores emerging from tunnels in the middle of the enemy army ala Trygon Tunnels unleashing large numbers of S5/AP4 template doom could actually be pretty cool...

Anything to buff up the amazing Haruspex model... Such lackluster rules.

I'll say it again - SCORING gargoyles. Extra flyrant is just bonus.

Ugh.

#3 I have everything for (40 Gargoyles) but only one Harpy. I like the idea of 2 crones/2 harpies though.

I may have to buy this now but only my wife has a kindle. : /

Lechine - I have the same setup as you (2 crones, 1 harpy). I'm buying another harpy kit today, lol.