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http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/03/01/284448992/knife-gang-attacks-china-rail-station-killing-dozens

This post was updated at 9:20 p.m. ET.

A gang of 10 knife-wielding men killed at least 29 people and wounded 130 others at a train station in southern China in what the government is describing as a "violent terror attack," Xinhua News Agency reports.

Four of the assailants were also killed by police, reports the Associated Press. One suspect was arrested.

Kunming Railway Station in Yunnan province was the site of the gruesome melee. Local television station K6 reportedly said several of the attackers were shot by police and that victims were being transported to local hospitals.

Reuters quotes state television as saying on its official microblog that the incident had been deemed a "violent terror attack."

says witnesses report the men simply began attacking people at random.

The Associated Press, citing local state-run service Yunnan News, says:

"[The] men were wearing uniforms when they stormed the railway station and that gunshots were heard after police responded."

Photos (warning: graphic) show scattered luggage and bodies lying on the floor in blood.

The AP reports: "Communist Party-run People's Daily reports that China's top police official, Politburo member Meng Jianzhu, is en route to Kunming, an indication of how seriously authorities view the attack."

A dozen bodies could be seen at the Kunming No. 1 People's Hospital, where most of the 60 victims had been taken, Xinhua says.

The news agency reports that a doctor at the hospital said they were so busy treating the injured that they weren't yet sure of the exact number of casualties.

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I heard the Chinese government was blaming Islamic separatists, but has there been any credible answer on who did this?

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It's a good thing nobody there had a gun...otherwise somebody would have gotten hurt.

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 Jimsolo wrote:
I heard the Chinese government was blaming Islamic separatists, but has there been any credible answer on who did this?


Islamic militants are a thing in that part of China. From what I've read, their the prime suspects, but I don't think there is anything solid yet.


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 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
It's a good thing nobody there had a gun...otherwise somebody would have gotten hurt.


I wanted to post on this yesterday, but I didn't want it to devolve into a gun thing. Glad to see I was right in that it wouldn't take long.

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 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
It's a good thing nobody there had a gun...otherwise somebody would have gotten hurt.


Three posts in........

BINGO!

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Ban all cutlery!!!!!

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 cincydooley wrote:
Ban all cutlery!!!!!

Or at least assault cutlery!!

Especially if it can chop thirty magazines a second.
30 magazine clips a second.

Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
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30 magazine clips a second.

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america bans candy because a few dumb kids chocked on them. Yet sell more guns thinking that will stop kids from getting shot.

see someone got stabbed, therefore guns are good. they should have access to guns over there with no background checks so they could have had a better body count.

Enjoy your next mass shooting.

 
   
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A mass knifing is still not as bad as a mass shooting...

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A mass knifing is still not as bad as a mass shooting...


Because a gun kills you more deaderer than a knife. And REASONS.
   
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 Iron_Captain wrote:
A mass knifing is still not as bad as a mass shooting...
You have reasoning for this or is your statement simply meant to be inflammatory hyperbole?

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 Iron_Captain wrote:
A mass knifing is still not as bad as a mass shooting...


I guess if you ignore the fact that this mass knifing resulted in more casualties and deaths than any mass shooting in the us since Virginia tech...

But, you know, facts.

 
   
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 Iron_Captain wrote:
A mass knifing is still not as bad as a mass shooting...


Right... because it's so much better that those 33 dead were killed by a knife. They'd be dead x2 if someone had used a gun.


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 cincydooley wrote:
 Iron_Captain wrote:
A mass knifing is still not as bad as a mass shooting...


I guess if you ignore the fact that this mass knifing resulted in more casualties and deaths than any mass shooting in the us since Virginia tech...

But, you know, facts.


Because 10 armed men kill 3 each.

one man with a gun killed 33. Now think if he had 9 friends with him.

because you know, facts

 
   
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sirlynchmob wrote:
 cincydooley wrote:
 Iron_Captain wrote:
A mass knifing is still not as bad as a mass shooting...


I guess if you ignore the fact that this mass knifing resulted in more casualties and deaths than any mass shooting in the us since Virginia tech...

But, you know, facts.


Because 10 armed men kill 3 each.

one man with a gun killed 33. Now think if he had 9 friends with him.

because you know, facts


The first result for "suicide bombings in Iraq."

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/incidents/m2211

One suicide bomber killed 36 people at a funeral. No guns involved.

Because you know, facts.

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 djones520 wrote:
They'd be dead x2 if someone had used a gun.


At least 5 times the number at a conservative estimate. Knives require close proximity to wound, firearms don't and a single round can injure multiple people. If these attackers did have firearms the death toll would easily be in the hundreds.

Can Dakka really not restrain itself from these utterly pointless gun threads?

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 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
sirlynchmob wrote:
 cincydooley wrote:
 Iron_Captain wrote:
A mass knifing is still not as bad as a mass shooting...


I guess if you ignore the fact that this mass knifing resulted in more casualties and deaths than any mass shooting in the us since Virginia tech...

But, you know, facts.


Because 10 armed men kill 3 each.

one man with a gun killed 33. Now think if he had 9 friends with him.

because you know, facts


The first result for "suicide bombings in Iraq."

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/incidents/m2211

One suicide bomber killed 36 people at a funeral. No guns involved.

Because you know, facts.


Yes and you troops invading countries because of it, yet you'll sell Morva more guns should he get out of prison. I guess they just need a good bomber with a bomb to stop the bad bombers with bombs right?

 
   
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I do have to say, this conversation has already devolved into complete and total idiocy. 33 people are dead, and look at what you're all saying.

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Man that blows. Mass freaking panic in a crowded area. Limited, one, maybe, two exits. People on one end have no idea what's going on on the other end. Three attackers dead and rest got away. With gunfire people can guess what's happening but knife wielding is "silent" and only screams can be heard and people on the other end thinking "one" attacker and not 28.

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 djones520 wrote:
Glad to see I was right in that it wouldn't take long.


Someone could make a post about a celebrity looking good in a dress and there is about a 50% chance it would somehow turn into a gun thread around here.

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 cincydooley wrote:
 Iron_Captain wrote:
A mass knifing is still not as bad as a mass shooting...


I guess if you ignore the fact that this mass knifing resulted in more casualties and deaths than any mass shooting in the us since Virginia tech...

But, you know, facts.
If they would have had access to automatic weapons there would have been likely even more casualties since it is easier to kill someone with a gun than with a knife. That is what I was saying.

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 Iron_Captain wrote:
 cincydooley wrote:
 Iron_Captain wrote:
A mass knifing is still not as bad as a mass shooting...


I guess if you ignore the fact that this mass knifing resulted in more casualties and deaths than any mass shooting in the us since Virginia tech...

But, you know, facts.
If they would have had access to automatic weapons there would have been likely even more casualties since it is easier to kill someone with a gun than with a knife. That is what I was saying.


Because so many people have access to automatic weapons, right?

And no, it's not "easier" to kill someone with a gun.

Plus, the stab wound mortality rates and gunshot wound mortality rates are nearly identical

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The real question is...what about automatic guns that shoot out knives?
   
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 cincydooley wrote:
 Iron_Captain wrote:
 cincydooley wrote:
 Iron_Captain wrote:
A mass knifing is still not as bad as a mass shooting...


I guess if you ignore the fact that this mass knifing resulted in more casualties and deaths than any mass shooting in the us since Virginia tech...

But, you know, facts.
If they would have had access to automatic weapons there would have been likely even more casualties since it is easier to kill someone with a gun than with a knife. That is what I was saying.


Because so many people have access to automatic weapons, right?

And no, it's not "easier" to kill someone with a gun.

Plus, the stab wound mortality rates and gunshot wound mortality rates are nearly identical


If you survive the wound, then sure, but you're forgetting this part:

For example a study in The Journal of Trauma (36:4
pp516-524) looked at all injury admissions to a Seattle hospital over
a six year period. The mortality rate for gunshot wounds was 22%
while that for stab wounds was 4%.

And from your own source:
A third of patients with gunshot wounds (33.0 percent) died compared with 7.7 percent of patients with stab wounds.

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 cincydooley wrote:
And no, it's not "easier" to kill someone with a gun.


If that were true it would sort of defeat the purpose of guns in the first place.

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Guns make noise, knife wounds are silent, except for the screams. Also, killing shots from guns will often be faster than knife wounds. Obviously not always the case, but often enough. In a tightly packed area, only screams, sounds more likely to cause panic and fear. Both are crappy things to do to your fellow man. I'd rather be shot in a lethal spot than stabbed lethally though. The suffering time is usually shorter. That statement is, of course, in the case of guaranteed death.

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china has a large mass murder problem, if its not knives, its 20+ people being burnt to death with gas on public transport... this has happened multiple times there.

(by one person for sirly lynch mob who was claiming its worse to die from gunst then knives... its all death, mass murder was a thing long before guns, and bombs/knives/gas/lots of stuff can achieve the same perpetrator to body count ratio or higher)

this also isnt the first time, nor the worst death count, in that region for bladed mass murder as less then a year ago 35 people were killed in that same region under similar circumstance

" This unhappy history continued last Wednesday with the armed attack of government buildings in the city of Lukqun, an incident that claimed the lives of at least 35 people."
http://www.theatlantic.com/china/archive/2013/07/35-people-dead-in-chinese-mass-murder-what-happened/277463/



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 easysauce wrote:
china has a large mass murder problem, if its not knives, its 20+ people being burnt to death with gas on public transport... this has happened multiple times there.

(by one person for sirly lynch mob who was claiming its worse to die from gunst then knives... its all death, mass murder was a thing long before guns, and bombs/knives/gas/lots of stuff can achieve the same perpetrator to body count ratio or higher)

this also isnt the first time, nor the worst death count, in that region for bladed mass murder as less then a year ago 35 people were killed in that same region under similar circumstance

" This unhappy history continued last Wednesday with the armed attack of government buildings in the city of Lukqun, an incident that claimed the lives of at least 35 people."
http://www.theatlantic.com/china/archive/2013/07/35-people-dead-in-chinese-mass-murder-what-happened/277463/



My point is when it comes to gun violence, america's solution is to sell more guns. bombs as deadly as guns (from the 2 sources you linked), yet bombs can not be made in the states as their are laws against buying them, and building them, or even using the word as by my use of the word the NSA is probably reading the thread now. Guns on the other hand can be sold to people who've had felony gun charges against them as no one even wants to do background checks to see who is buying these guns. Any attempts to come up with a solution to all the gun violence gets shouted down by the people who are selling the guns and their followers.

I'm not the one going "oh look someone got stabbed, that justifies all the gun violence we have"

Any other thing that kills someone, no matter how rare can be discussed, researched, and have laws implemented to help. But not guns, america is only #1 when it comes to gun violence and mass shootings so they can't lose that record or they won't be #1 at anything anymore. One kid chokes on a toy, it gets recalled. a school gets shot up and they want to sell more guns & arm the teachers. Nothing says public safety like a shoot out at a elementary school.

 
   
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 cincydooley wrote:


And no, it's not "easier" to kill someone with a gun.


Are you for real?

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