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Kickstarter link is here:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dwarvenforge/dwarven-forges-caverns-dwarvenite-game-tiles-mini

Funded Stretch Goals:
$100k - 2 free Cavern Passage tiles per set
$225k - 2 free Straight Wall B tiles per set
$300k - 2 free Floor B tiles per set
$375k - 2 free Curved Corner B tiles per set
$450k - 2 free Straight Wall C tiles per set
$550k - 2 free Floor C tiles per set
$650k - 2 free Curved Corner C tiles per set
$750k - 1 free Passage End Cap tile per set
$850k - Map maker upgraded
$900k - Narrow Passage Add-On Pack unlocked
3000 backers - Lava Cavern Add-On Pack unlocked
$1M - 1 free 4" Spider Web per set
$1.05M - 1 free Narrow Stalagmite per set
$1.1M - 2 free 45 Degree Passage tiles per set
$1.15M - Water Cavern Add-On Pack unlocked
$1.2M - 1 free Floor D tile per set
$1.25M - Elevation Add-On Pack unlocked
$1.3M - 1 free Free-Standing Straight Wall per set
$1.315M - Mushroom Add-On Pack unlocked
$1.335M - Narrow Dungeon Passage Add-On Pack unlocked
$1.35M - 1 Free-Standing Curved Wall per set
$1.4M - Stalagmite Add-On Pack unlocked
$1.41M - Chasm Add-On Pack unlocked
$1.475M - 1 free 2" Arch tile per set
$1.5M - Large Pedestal Add-On Pack unlocked
$1.55M - Lava River Add-On Pack unlocked
$1.625M - 1 free Concave Corner Chasm Ledge piece per set
$1.65M - Floor Add-On Pack unlocked
$1.7M - 1 free Straight Chasm Ledge piece per set
$1.775M - 1 free Pointed Chasm Ledge piece per set
$1.875M - 1 free Convex Corner Chasm Ledge piece per set
$2M - 1 free Mine Entrance tile per set
$2.1M - Wicked Additions Add-On Pack unlocked

Stretch goals map (Warning, large image):


Images:


~iPaint

Yeah, the last campaign was amazing, I'll definitely be in for this one too.

From Stefan over on the Dwarven Forge forums:

I am really sorry everybody for not being able to post when the Kickstarter will launch...it is not because we are trying to be mysterious or that we are ignoring everyone....I really wish we could launch today, but in fact, we are still working on Cavern Pieces, photography, and video....I am afraid we won't really know exactly when we will be ready until we are....please bear with us...

So, mid-March seems a good guesstimate as of now.

~iPaint

Wow, those teaser images look quite good. Hmmmm

New teaser pics courtesy of Stefan:


Looking pretty good.Can't wait for this to go live.

~iPaint

Edit: More pics

Kickstarter launch announced for Mar 12, 2014 at 11:00am EDT (Eastern Daylight Time) or 3:00pm GMT.





First post updated.

~iPaint

Darksword minis KS just finished and here comes DF just in time. I'll be in on this one, hope it's as good as the first one.

Whoa, that looks awesome!

Those really do look fantastic, and I'm counting down the 23 hours until it launches (even with recognition that if it's like their last KS, it'll likely last a month and have thousands of open spots at each tier).

Went 3 sets unpainted for the dungeon tiles, and now that I've got them I have to respect just how heavy that much stuff is, and how much work went into painting them. Extrapolating ahead roughly how much each tier might be (they said a while back they expected the sets to be around 15% more expensive, due to the higher complexity of the pieces/molds), I'm thinking I might go with 2 sets painted instead.

I suppose I could go unpainted instead and use the leftover paint from the dungeons (with a higher emphasis on brown rather than grey, obviously), but considering the raw hours it took to get where I did (and I should say that even as an amateur effort, I am happy with the outcome), a few extra bucks to have some people with greater skill knock them off is pretty appealing.

Their tier system definitely makes it a tough call. 3 sets unpainted or 2 sets painted. One gives me 50% more tiles but requires a lot more work on my behalf, the other gives me some truly incredible pieces to use. The sheer space and weight of each set actually has me leaning towards fewer, higher quality pieces, for the time being. I'd love to go up to 5 sets or more (or like some of the well funded folks who talked about getting 10 or 20+), but I'm pretty sure that much terrain would lead to trouble with the girlfriend and needing to clear out some serious space in the condo to hold it all.

I went for 3 unpainted + at least one of all the add-ons last time round. This set up used almost all of my tiles (I'm always short floor tiles).

Took about a weeks' worth of painting (compressed that is) in 3-4 hour chunks to get everything done. Still have some small items like the pillars and stairs, dungeon accessories and details, and doors left to paint. Well worth the effort imo. Wish I'd done one extra brick color, but two was enough.





I'm excited to see what base color the cavern tiles will be. Hopefully a quick wetbrush will bring out details and define a solid basecoat. Then I'll probably get the airbrush out and do some modulation. The small pools on the sides of the caves will be great for water effects.

~iPaint

Sweet. A buddy and I split a 10 set last time, might do the same this time as well. I already have 2 room sets, 1 passage, 1 river and a ton of random passages I snagged on Nobleknight back in the day. Have they posted side by side comparisons to the old stuff? I might actually have to do painted this time.

These are the tiles (I assume) Stefan has painted to represent the factory paint job.



Final product may vary, though.

~iPaint

Which ones are supposed to represent the factory paint job- the top or the bottom? The top pieces in that pic seem either unpainted or painted differently, but the others look good.

I'll probably go in for painted this time. I went nuts on terrain last year and still have so very, very much to paint. I can't *not* get some caverns though.

 RiTides wrote:
Which ones are supposed to represent the factory paint job- the top or the bottom? The top pieces in that pic seem either unpainted or painted differently, but the others look good.

The larger radius corner walls (as evidenced by the smoother, more uniform floor) are the resin Master Maze Caverns, the smaller radius corner walls (with the more rocky shaped floors) are the Game Tiles pieces cast in Dwarvenite.

~iPaint

I'm counting on you -IPaint- to keep this thread updated when the KS goes active!

Good luck with the first day.

Might just want to keep a link to the campaign in the OP with "Go look for yourself" under it.

Because it's going to be bat-gak crazy. Even with reasonably long stretch goals, I imagine they're going to blow through a handful very quickly, considering how happy the user base seems to be with their last product.

It'd take a hell of a showstopper to keep this one in check (like, the tiers are 50% more expensive and it takes 5+ sets to get stretch goals, or something else that reigned in the viability of the average user participating).

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm counting on you -IPaint- to keep this thread updated when the KS goes active!

I'll try my best through the work day. I may resolve to an end of day update for the first few days, judging by previous Kickstarter sequel projects I've taken part in (the project creators tend to have a hard time managing the flood after the gates have burst open, so I expect it to be no small task). Once it quiets down I'll start compiling information and keeping track of stats, pics, infographics, etc.

Is there a recommended format people might be interested in? I know pic-heavy posts are often wrapped in spoiler tags to allow for easier page loading. I can also do a hyper-linked table of contents as milestones/updates are hit. I know certain sites are often blocked at work. I've been re-hosting DF's images via imgur. Would attachments be better suited? I'm open to suggestions. Either comment here or send me a message - I'm more than happy to accept help.

~iPaint

Whatever YOU want to do, since you'll, you know, be the one actually DOING it!

It's live!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dwarvenforge/dwarven-forges-caverns-dwarvenite-game-tiles-mini

Edit: and they're going to fund at 100k in about 5 minutes. Seriously flying, obviously not sustainable, nice to see the positive response all the same.

Edit 2: funded within 10 minutes, first stretch goal within 20 minutes (2 passageway pieces per set pledged).

As with the last campaign, stretch goals apply to backers who pledge for 2 or more sets.

Looks like you really need 5 sets to make it useful, though, which runs $325 unpainted. I don't do dungeon crawling games enough to warrant that kind of purchase.

Wait for the added stretch goals. I pledged for three sets last time, and got almost two full sets free with the extra stretch goals by the end of the campaign.

~iPaint

Yeah, by the time 1-2m+ in funding has hit, the stretch goals will make even 2-3 sets a massive pile of tiles.

It certainly helps to already have 3 sets (basically 4.5-5 after stretch goals) of the Dungeon ones already, so any time I can combine them will lead to a simply massive table.

Ah, that makes more sense then- so basically you're saying the 3 set pledge will be bulked out to be more usable like the pics of the 5 set pledges are currently... got it

That makes it a ~$200 investment, which is much more reasonable! Time to not watch the KS page anymore to avoid temptation

 -iPaint- wrote:
Wait for the added stretch goals. I pledged for three sets last time, and got almost two full sets free with the extra stretch goals by the end of the campaign.

~iPaint

Same with me... the 2 set had the same parts of 3 full sets + extra when the stretch goals were done. That makes close to 3-4 square feet worth of terrain.

Between Tyson's 3D dungeon boards, my Dwarven forge and secret Weapon's ruined temple, I will be able to cover 10 square feet of table with dungeon stuff. This should add another 4 square feet. It adds up!

Already we're hitting 6 extra pieces per set pledged.

$300k in the first 75 minutes. Looking good.

~iPaint

i put in a pledge for a 2 set just to hold it, ill take another look at it at the end to see if with all the extras im still interested

 Forar wrote:
Yeah, by the time 1-2m+ in funding has hit, the stretch goals will make even 2-3 sets a massive pile of tiles.

It certainly helps to already have 3 sets (basically 4.5-5 after stretch goals) of the Dungeon ones already, so any time I can combine them will lead to a simply massive table.

That actually makes me feel a lot better.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but the 3 set one, at the start, will cover around 3 square feet, yeah? ( or in better terms, each Set will cover around 1 square foot)

After looking at it more, while these tiles appeal to me Much more than the ones in their previous campaign (I would paint them with lava in the cracks if I went for it ) it seems like you get a lot less, and get charged more, per set than in that campaign.

I know that's normal because companies tend to undercharge on their first campaign... but it just seems like a double hit.

Current campaign 1 set contents:

The Cavern Set comes complete with these 26 pieces:

·9x Straight Wall "A"

·9x Floor "A"

·8x Curved Corner "A"

Prior campaign 1 set contents:

The Game Tiles set comes complete with these 34 pieces:

14x Straight Wall*

12x Floor*

6x Corner Wall*

2x Swinging Door

So, you get 8 less pieces per set, for $10 more per set. Even worse, at the higher pledge levels that I looked at, the difference is actually greater- $25 for 2 sets, and $35 for 3 sets, and a whopping $65 more for 5 sets!

At 3 sets then, you're getting 24 less pieces for $35 more... at 5 sets, you're getting 40 less pieces for $65 more!!

And that's just for starters, but I can't believe that the stretch goals will be more generous than in the first campaign, so that gap may widen. I just find it a bummer because the sets seem a bit unrealistically small now... still a good value, but not nearly as good a one as in the previous campaign... which is a shame because I like these much better! I don't think they should cost more to make, though, as they're the same size... and I don't see why the discount compared to the first campaign gets worse at the higher pledge levels.

They said in the comments last year that they expected the Caverns campaign to be around 15% more expensive than the first one, due to a few things (more complex shapes, etc), so them being more expensive for fewer tiles was totally anticipated.

But I'd wait until we're closer to the end to make a real value judgement/comparison as to whether or not it's a dealbreaker.