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 Brother SRM wrote:

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HEEYYY YOUUU GUUUUUUYYYSSSS!!!

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 SRSFACE wrote:
To whomever said they think Ogryns will be 5/$50 like the Wraithguard box, I doubt it. I figure it'll be 3/$60 or $70ish, more in line with Centurions or Crisis Suit Teams.

There's no way it's a reasonably priced box. People have been clamouring for it for too long.

Perhaps, but aren't centurions and suits also much larger than Ogryns?

Not particularly. Ogryns are larger than Terminators, but probably a little smaller than centurions. Akin to Crisis Teams.

Crisis teams are $65, but these guys look like they have more options. I'm guessing it'll be about $68 bucks. I'm hopeful it won't be much more than that.

Ogryns look derpy as feth.

The hydra is OK, though, I guess.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Ogryns look derpy as feth.

The hydra is OK, though, I guess.

Well, to be fair, they are Ogryns.

They aren't quite well known for their intellect.

 SRSFACE wrote:
Crisis teams are $65, but these guys look like they have more options. I'm guessing it'll be about $68 bucks. I'm hopeful it won't be much more than that.

Hive Guard have about the same size and less options, a box of 3 costs 70$.
So I expect a box of 3 Ogryns for 70$ as well. Double the Scions for double the size.
Would also make them more expensive than 3 metal Ogryns.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 SRSFACE wrote:
Crisis teams are $65, but these guys look like they have more options. I'm guessing it'll be about $68 bucks. I'm hopeful it won't be much more than that.

Hive Guard have about the same size and less options, a box of 3 costs 70$.
So I expect a box of 3 Ogryns for 70$ as well. Double the Scions for double the size.

Wouldn't that be 5 Ogryns for 70 then, as there are 5 scions in a box?

Or did I misunderstood?

I love the new Ogryns, and the Hyrda is awesome. Only disappointing thing so far is that Tempestus vehicle, but even that can be good if you pop wheels on it.

Okay, maybe Scion comparison was not close enough. I expect 3 Ogryns for 70$

Glad I used the WFB Ogres and just converted my own. GW has a great baseline kit with the Ogres and totally screwed the pooch.

Good point, Kroothawk.

Hopefully they get the "IG have to field so many flippin' models their guys are given a bit of a monetary discount kind of sort of" but the way this entire 6E release has gone, doubtful.

I have to say I'm still pleased with the releases themselves. I like how derpy the Ogryns look, and I really like the super stormtrooper dudes. And I also really, really like that APC, which I know I'll get crap for but whatever. It's funny how Warhammer 40k fans on the internet are so demonstrative in decrying things and trying to get everyone else to admit their opinion is "best" but in person most people whistle a different tune.

Well of course. It's alot easier to deal with angry GW apologists online than face-to-face.

dkellyj wrote:
Glad I used the WFB Ogres and just converted my own. GW has a great baseline kit with the Ogres and totally screwed the pooch.

Seriously?

While some of the metals were ok, the plastic range for the OK Ogres are ghastly models. I've built one Ogryn conversion from those kits, but I did it by covering over the head and chest with putty. They're also way too big for 40K Ogryn.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
Well of course. It's alot easier to deal with angry GW apologists online than face-to-face.

And here I was thinking the angriest people were the ones bashing GW at every corner, not the ones who defend them.

I am sure the new Ogryns will be gak in terms of value for dollar as I have no intention of purchasing them myself unless they have mind blowing rules for assault that gives them an AP2 assault weapon and doesn't make them more costly than terminators.


Oops I am looking far to down that pipe dream I call value again, bad me. I still want those troopers.

 SRSFACE wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
Well of course. It's alot easier to deal with angry GW apologists online than face-to-face.

And here I was thinking the angriest people were the ones bashing GW at every corner, not the ones who defend them.

I know. That's why I said that.

 BunkerBob wrote:
I am sure the new Ogryns will be gak in terms of value for dollar as I have no intention of purchasing them myself unless they have mind blowing rules for assault that gives them an AP2 assault weapon and doesn't make them more costly than terminators.


Oops I am looking far to down that pipe dream I call value again, bad me. I still want those troopers.

Yeah... I'm more concerned about their durability than anything. They're already going to be slow and at the mercy of a transport to reach their target. We live in a post-Eldar "lulz pseudo-rending on everything" world where a unit simply having T5 and a few wounds isn't enough.

I'm hoping those shields give an invulnerable save, but anything worse than a 4++ will make them dead meat the moment they hop out of a transport.

Giving them the same statline they have now, but for 20ppm and the option to take a 4++ shield for an additional 10ppm, would make them usable.

 Kroothawk wrote:


Edit: Seals? Yeah, scary

Just curious why I just got a warning for posting NON gaming pic, and I see things like this go unanswered..... *sigh*

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:


Edit: Seals? Yeah, scary

Just curious why I just got a warning for posting NON gaming pic, and I see things like this go unanswered..... *sigh*

You can't attach non gaming images to dakka. Nothing from stopping you from using the img tags though (unless the picture has profanity).

I think the new Bullgryns look great personally.

Ogryns not bad either.

I still want a size comparison to Chimeras from this new transport. I mean how super is this thing? It has a TL assault cannon for bloody infantries sake! So far this thing is as intimidating as a reheated pasta dish from last nights cooking. I am enjoying the detail on it but it is not intimidating to say the least AND the new stormtrooper command squad is disembarking from a vendetta/valkyrie! Sidenote, that Commissar from the new book cover better be a replacement for the current ones down the road. He is awesome.

 BunkerBob wrote:
I still want a size comparison to Chimeras from this new transport. I mean how super is this thing? It has a TL assault cannon for bloody infantries sake! So far this thing is as intimidating as a reheated pasta dish from last nights cooking. I am enjoying the detail on it but it is not intimidating to say the least AND the new stormtrooper command squad is disembarking from a vendetta/valkyrie! Sidenote, that Commissar from the new book cover better be a replacement for the current ones down the road. He is awesome.

I thought it was a twin linked punisher cannon...

They arent that big especially the ones on my vulture. But big enough to suggest the size of that vehicle.

The Baal Predator gun barrels are far closer than the spam fest of the Punisher Cannon, and I hope this does not over ride my Punisher as I sit Pask in it for a reason!

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 Alpharius wrote:

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 pretre wrote:

 Crablezworth wrote:
Tanks treads for armour? What are thet orks? So stupid.

Makeshift armor plate? How dare they!

Spoiler:

AGH! Jesus, people are seriously horrified by the new heads?

Not getting the hate for the tank treads either.

It is almost as if people have different opinions than yours!

I guess the real point here is that, for the most part, Ogryns have always been less then impressive - both in terms of models and rules!

I live in a Truman Show-esque world where everything happens for my express benefit. To rephrase, noone has explained why they think tank tread armor doesn't suit the look of the Ogryn.
Getting a little touchy there Alph, your SHIELD cat-suit must be riding up again.

What the hell does that even mean?

Anyway...

The Ogryns are wearing armor that is clearly made for them...and then they have tank treads slapped on too?

OK!

love the Tempetus Scions.

 BunkerBob wrote:
The Baal Predator gun barrels are far closer than the spam fest of the Punisher Cannon, and I hope this does not over ride my Punisher as I sit Pask in it for a reason!

My bets on a punisher cannon personally. I dont really know what the assault cannon looks like, I saw one once and it looked a lot different to that. But I have only seen one before.

But yea it looks like a punisher cannon to the best of my knowledge.

I dont really know what the assault cannon looks like, I saw one once and it looked a lot different to that. But I have only seen one before.

Wha?

They're on terminators, land speeders, two Land Raider variants, Baal Predators, storm talons, Storm ravens... and that's just off the top of my head without thinking.

You sure?

 pretre wrote:

 Crablezworth wrote:
Tanks treads for armour? What are thet orks? So stupid.

Makeshift armor plate? How dare they!

Spoiler:

There's nothing wrong with makeshift armour. But that's not what these guys are wearing. The rest of their outfit is clearly mass-produced, production-line stuff... that for some reason has tank treads as a belly plate.

The tank treads would have worked fine on more ramshackle armour for mercenaries. For Guard Ogryn in what appears to be purpose-built armour? It makes no sense, and looks weird.


Other than the tank tracks, the armour looks great. I'm also not a fan of the stumpy legs, and the moustache guy appears to have a shrunken right forearm... But otherwise, these guys are growing on me. It would be awesome if there are enough of the gasmask heads to do a full squad...

 azreal13 wrote:

I dont really know what the assault cannon looks like, I saw one once and it looked a lot different to that. But I have only seen one before.

Wha?

They're on terminators, land speeders, two Land Raider variants, Baal Predators, storm talons, Storm ravens... and that's just off the top of my head without thinking.

You sure?

I hate space marines. A lot. And only very recently has someone collected in my club marines but I think my friends obliterators have them. So yea just once. Noone has any of the vehicles you mentioned from what I can tell.

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 Brother SRM wrote:

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HEEYYY YOUUU GUUUUUUYYYSSSS!!!

Hahaha I'm glad someone thought that exact same thing!

But he needs the Superman Shirt

So I'm guessing this is pretty much all we're getting? 2 vehicles and 2 infantry units?

Disappointed. I would have liked another tank and another flyer, but I guess the flyer was a bit much to ask given we already have the Valk.

They seriously should have just brought out a DKOK plastic kit. That would have been a license to print money.

I like the new Ogryns all except for the armour. Seriously, tank track loincloth? Who's brilliant idea was that? Not sure if I'll buy them though, they've never really found a place in my army.

But I was never a fan of the old Ogryns, also not a fan of the Fantasy Ogres.

Hydra looks cool... basically what I was expecting given that FW already has a Hydra model.

Still think the Taurox looks terrible. Still think the Stormies look "okay" but vastly too expensive.