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I think the weapon options you posted would be a bit weedy for a tank of that size. Maybe standard you can go with the 2 shot battle cannon the knight titan has. Upgrade to the melta blast, large blast executioner cannon or vulcan mega bolter or Str10 vanquisher cannon with coaxial autocannon. 1 set of sponsons, bolter, flamer, melta or plasma but all twin linked.

14/13/11 4hp. Can drop the sponsons to increase the side armor to 14, can buy "it will not die!" USR, leadership bubble, big vox (re-roll failed orders on units/vehicles within 12") Price is a little more than a wraithknight/supped up riptide. The thing can still die in one shot. 125pts for a deepstriking tempestus command squad with 4 BS4 meltaguns most likely ordering itself to "Bring it Down!" will kill it. Or any number of things on turn 1 killing it.

Not saying they shouldn't have a new tank, I want one, just one that would be worth the giant cost. I would so love to see what the rumored tech priests can do with tanks. Last we heard they were like a necron court with lots of options. I play Leman Russ spam so I am curious if I might actually ever get a tech priest with the new book.

I want Techpriests just because they look cool.

Not sure if this has been reported yet, but the wyvren cannon is heavy 2, twin-linked. Each tank has 2 of these guns, according to the WD. Costs a bit less than 2 rhinos

Anyone heard anything on special characters for imperial guard... am I keeping Creed and the gang? Are there going to be special characters for more then just the cadians?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Sir Bubbles wrote:
Anybody feel like speculating what we'll be getting in the new IG battleforce/army set?

Sure. My guess:
Cadian command squad
3x cadian troop squads
Cadian heavy Weapon squad
Sentinel
Chimaera
Leman Russ
~ $200

I've heard about the Taurox being part of the new battleforce set, and i think it sounds plausible.

 Maxurugi wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Sir Bubbles wrote:
Anybody feel like speculating what we'll be getting in the new IG battleforce/army set?

Sure. My guess:
Cadian command squad
3x cadian troop squads
Cadian heavy Weapon squad
Sentinel
Chimaera
Leman Russ
~ $200

I've heard about the Taurox being part of the new battleforce set, and i think it sounds plausible.

So that's their plan to sell the Taurox... include it in a big box so you can either buy the kits separately and not get a Taurox or pay the same price and get a free Taurox in the big box, lol.

Heresy! GW doesn't give stuff for free, don't you know they are the Porche of miniatures??????
Their new cunning plan is that to be able to buy a battleforce you need to subscribe to WH Visions for two years or buy 3 Taurox and present the ticket at the counter.

On topic: I don't think IG will get a new tank kit not even in an Armored Company IG. Where would it go without some serious shuffling of the FOC? HS is already bursting and apparently the Wyvern goes there too (unless LR become troops and that's kind of too hardcore even for GW, armored fist squads in Troops with LR in Elite and HS is kind of ok, LR in all slots )

M.

 Red__Thirst wrote:
According to whispers I've been reading on other 40k sites, apparently this weekend we're going to get another 'big reveal' for Astra Miliarium/Imperian Guard in the form of a new never-before-seen tank.

Apparently it's going to be a Heresy era tank in line with the previously mentioned rumor; the larger than a Land Raider but smaller than a Baneblade/Shadowsword kit.

April Fool's was two days ago...

Hardy har har.

Seriously, if I wanted this to be an April Fools thing I would have posted it *on* April Fools.

Guess we'll see what we'll see by week's end.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Sir Bubbles wrote:
Anybody feel like speculating what we'll be getting in the new IG battleforce/army set?

Sure. My guess:
Cadian command squad
3x cadian troop squads
Cadian heavy Weapon squad
Sentinel
Chimaera
Leman Russ
~ $200

On Precision shots- Regardless of the specific rule, it seems like people are assuming that the entire text of the rule is on the order card, and that the actual codex itself will not have a longer explanation, possibly clearing up the confusion.
[edit] Should have finished reading the thread. Leth brought up the same point.

Try $275

Now this is a battle taxi!

Still a pre-production model, but not much longer.

Just doesn't look 40kish enough. Would not fit in with leman russes etc. So some conversion work would be needed.

Convert all you want, there are no laws against it.

Yeah, doesn't really look like an Imperial vehicle to me.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Yeah, doesn't really look like an Imperial vehicle to me.

And the new abomination does?

 Andrew1975 wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Yeah, doesn't really look like an Imperial vehicle to me.

And the new abomination does?

I think the vehicle is awesome, if you where using other proxies. I love alternative models but they need to fit the theme of the other models in a force (unless you are using multiple regiments). If I ever did the troopers from that company that vehicle will certainly follow. But it doesnt suit my current army (I do love the Taurox though). Its just pot luck with alternatives sometimes.

Definitely a cool vehicle though.

 Andrew1975 wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Yeah, doesn't really look like an Imperial vehicle to me.

And the new abomination does?

Yeah, it does. It's full of gothic and Warhammy detail. The headlights are similar to the ones on the baneblade, the side armor plates on the tracks are very similar to the ones on the Leman Russ and Chimera, it's got skulls, winged skulls, big-ass smokestacks and giant bulkhead doors on it. The Taurox is as 40k as flying cyborg skull babies and Commissars.

 Brother SRM wrote:

 Andrew1975 wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Yeah, doesn't really look like an Imperial vehicle to me.

And the new abomination does?

Yeah, it does. It's full of gothic and Warhammy detail. The headlights are similar to the ones on the baneblade, the side armor plates on the tracks are very similar to the ones on the Leman Russ and Chimera, it's got skulls, winged skulls, big-ass smokestacks and giant bulkhead doors on it. The Taurox is as 40k as flying cyborg skull babies and Commissars.

Sorry, I'm just going to have to disagree. Besides some iconography the Taurox shares nothing with other IG vehicles, besides being completely impractical. Its a completely different aesthetic/design philosophy and not in a good way. That thing is definitely a step in the wrong direction.

 Andrew1975 wrote:


Now this is a battle taxi!

Still a pre-production model, but not much longer.

With a little work, that thing would make a great "limo" for a genestealer cult leader or an imperial noble.

I love it, but its probably a bit to big to be accepted as a Taurox conversion. Which sucks, because it looks so much better and has things like actual windows, a way to exit the vehicle without being shot by your own cannons, and even *gasp* wheels.

I feel bad for the Taurox. A regular one with a twin linked autocannon turret might actually be useful, but the amount of work required to convert one and make it look good just wouldn't be worth it. I would rather just convert an M113 or a BMP since the Taurox would take just as much work (instead of 40k-Ing a model, its just making a 40k model look decent, but the point stands) I honestly think a Taurox wouldn't look too bad if it just had big beefy tires like the Dreamforge APC has.

That APC looks mighty cool, but I'd say it's too big for a Taurox stand-in. Some of you are misjudging the size of the Taurox - It's got the footprint of a Rhino, only a bit shorter than a Chimera. And that thing looks LR-sized, or even bigger.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
With a little work, that thing would make a great "limo" for a genestealer cult leader...

Don't tempt me Frodo!

Aside from the fact that it is a bit lower (ok maybe more than a bit), the fact that it is bigger would automatically prevent the cries of "modelling for advantage" though, no?

I speak as someone who is building his whole IG out of Dreamforge stormtroopers, so it would definitely fit the style of my army, but I already have 8 chimera stand-ins. Is the Taurox going to be *that* worth it, in your opinions?

 Andrew1975 wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Yeah, doesn't really look like an Imperial vehicle to me.

And the new abomination does?

The Taurox is just ugly. It probably fits the Imperium more, but you can't get past the ugliness to know.

Luckily, the rules for the Taurox look terrible, so I'll just stick to Chimeras.

Sorry if anyone else already asked but if the chimera is still around why was the Taurox even created? It does not seem needed. Is it normal for GW to create redundant models. That might be a dumb question

Zengu wrote:
Sorry if anyone else already asked but if the chimera is still around why was the Taurox even created?

Because "they'll buy what we make".

Zengu wrote:
Sorry if anyone else already asked but if the chimera is still around why was the Taurox even created? It does not seem needed. Is it normal for GW to create redundant models. That might be a dumb question

Because the Scions need a signiature Transport. Like the sisters have an imolator, guard have chimera, space marines have rhino, Scions now have Taurox.

Thats how I see it.

 Andrew1975 wrote:


Now this is a battle taxi!

Still a pre-production model, but not much longer.

That looks more like the batmobile than an APC.


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 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Sir Bubbles wrote:
Anybody feel like speculating what we'll be getting in the new IG battleforce/army set?

Sure. My guess:
Cadian command squad
3x cadian troop squads
Cadian heavy Weapon squad
Sentinel
Chimaera
Leman Russ
~ $200

On Precision shots- Regardless of the specific rule, it seems like people are assuming that the entire text of the rule is on the order card, and that the actual codex itself will not have a longer explanation, possibly clearing up the confusion.
[edit] Should have finished reading the thread. Leth brought up the same point.

That is a really optimistic estimate. Odds are we will get 25 infantry in some combination and a light vehicle.

I dont have to buy a Taurox. I already have a couple of battlewagons and they look like they are the same model with minor changes. lol

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Sir Bubbles wrote:
Anybody feel like speculating what we'll be getting in the new IG battleforce/army set?

Sure. My guess:
Cadian command squad
3x cadian troop squads
Cadian heavy Weapon squad
Sentinel
Chimaera
Leman Russ
~ $200

That'd be awesome, considering the current one is, what? 20 infantry, one command, three heavy weapons, and a single Sentinel for $120?

My guess is this:

Lord Commisar
A command squad
2X infantry squads
3X Ogryns
A Hellhound

For $120

The Taurox being in there in place of the Hellhound is about 30% likely, but they love to put one Fast Attack option in every Battleforce, so.

Wakshaani wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Sir Bubbles wrote:
Anybody feel like speculating what we'll be getting in the new IG battleforce/army set?

Sure. My guess:
Cadian command squad
3x cadian troop squads
Cadian heavy Weapon squad
Sentinel
Chimaera
Leman Russ
~ $200

That'd be awesome, considering the current one is, what? 20 infantry, one command, three heavy weapons, and a single Sentinel for $120?

My guess is this:

Lord Commisar
A command squad
2X infantry squads
3X Ogryns
A Hellhound

For $120

The Taurox being in there in place of the Hellhound is about 30% likely, but they love to put one Fast Attack option in every Battleforce, so.

To be fair marines have a pretty big battleforce. Of course they are marines.