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The Officio Prefectus Commissar looks like he's got a shuttle launch ramp for a cap and the Yamato's rudder for a sword

The Bullgryn doesn't look too bad though

The faux Latin is meant to represent how high gothic appears to those who can't speak it, so in the same way that AM is the "high gothic" name for the IG, and unlikely to be used by the grunts, the Officio Prefectus is probably just the high gothic name for what the rank and file call the Commissariat.

Edit - also see Adeptus Astartes/Space Marines. I'm also well aware that these newer ones are just for trademarking, but it isn't a total retcon at the same time.

Wakshaani wrote:
Grf.

Why not a pack of five plastic build-like-you-want Commisars?

Yeah, they'd be over-priced, but dangit, I want *variety* up in here!

Why charge $45 for 5 multi-part Commissars when you can charge $30 for one mono-pose Commissar?

I think a squad of 5 hws would be as dysfunctional as 3. They would gain more from orders, but would be a more inviting target for s6+ dakka. Long range dakka also tends to be high str. They would also be ld7.

If they are priced the same as regular infantry but have room for 3 heavy and no specials they would have a ld8 sergeant and 3 ablative wounds with 3 ac for 80 or 3 lc for 110.

If they did the same for sws than a 10 man melta squad would be 80 and plasma would be 95.

is that a damn cutless?
http://24.media.tumblr.com/de87926bc6f2fac4d157c6f61c65d538/tumblr_n3hvo4K5fk1sct717o1_400.jpg

That is the worst looking Commissar. Every single Commissar on the GW site looks better than that Commissar.

EDIT: Oh, and the FW Commissars, they look better too.

Minutes ago dropped this :

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
1 ~ Sly Marbo will NOT be in the new Astra Militarum codex. He's gone. (possibly a future dataslate)

2 ~ The Vendetta has gone up to 170 points, and lost half it's transport capacity, in that it can only transport up to 6 infantry (25mm) models. They can, however, still be taken in squadrons.



I had guessed for 175 point for the Vendetta a few weeks ago, nearly on the spot ! Haha !

And the justification for halving its transport capacity is...? I mean, the power cells for the Lascannons are built into the Lascannons themselves.

And hooray for Marbo DLC.



That was sarcasm.

Why would they have 6 transport capacity anyway? the vast majority of units in IG are 10 models minimal.

Mmm I wasn't convinced about the Ogryns but now I am, I actually quite like them.

That commisar as well looks amazing, I really like the stance, ace balls.

 Luke_Prowler wrote:
Why would they have 6 transport capacity anyway? the vast majority of units in IG are 10 models minimal.

Read the Kasrkin entry or the old stormtroopers. So, Valkyrie will be the flying option for the basic 5man team maybe with a commissar attached ?

 Luke_Prowler wrote:
Why would they have 6 transport capacity anyway? the vast majority of units in IG are 10 models minimal.

Not at all my friend,

Storm Trooper Squads.
Specialist Weapon Squads

Those are generally dropped from a Vendy.

 Luke_Prowler wrote:
Why would they have 6 transport capacity anyway? the vast majority of units in IG are 10 models minimal.

Trying to promote SWS? That really doesn't make any sense to drop it from 12.

Well derp, I forgot SWS exist. My bad.

'scuse, what DLC stands for ?

[sarcasm]
Vendetta is bound to carry a huge alternator in order to recharge the batteries on the fly, plus spare lead batteries and bottles sulfuric acid to re-level them between missions.
It takes room.
Because it is mandatory to make Vendetta self-sufficient, according to Tactica Imperium book, the bible of Astra Militarum doctrines you know ?
[/sarcasm]

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And the justification for halving its transport capacity is...? I mean, the power cells for the Lascannons are built into the Lascannons themselves.

Dropping the transport capacity that much seems a bit crazy, but if you look in the Aeronautica Imperialis book they have a 3D diagram of the Valk and it shows the powerpack for the hull weapon is mounted inside the transport area at the front.

 Ravajaxe wrote:
'scuse, what DLC stands for ?

Downloadable content, where video game companies sell small expansions (new maps in an fps, etc) for a small price. Or, in this case, where GW takes stuff out of the codex so they can sell it to you as a separate product and get more money from you. TBH the only real surprise here is that GW sells codices at all instead of having a separate $50 book for each unit.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And the justification for halving its transport capacity is...? I mean, the power cells for the Lascannons are built into the Lascannons themselves.

You see, that's the current model. The new Vendetta model (a $100 conversion kit) will be different. It clearly has nothing to do with balance problems and is all about forging an awesome narrative about the new not-stormtroopers stealing the veteran squad's transport.


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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Dropping the transport capacity that much seems a bit crazy, but if you look in the Aeronautica Imperialis book they have a 3D diagram of the Valk and it shows the powerpack for the hull weapon is mounted inside the transport area at the front.

Sure, but that's a Valkyrie, not a Vendetta. The extra lascannons (in addition to the hull mount) on the Vendetta are powered by external batteries mounted on the guns themselves. There's no plausible reason that the extra guns would reduce transport capacity, it's purely a balance change.

(If it's happening at all.)

Thanks.



May I note that scions don't need a transport anyway : they have deep strike.
So who will ride in them now ?
PCS, who would not be able to issue orders until late in the game ?
Special weapon squads ? Assuming they stay in the codex, of course...

That's a whole lot of a choice !

Seems Puppets War are on their game:

Don't forget, Veteran squads are apparently going to be "Buy 5 veterans for X points cost, add up to 5 additional Veterans for Y points per model" and that each Veteran Squad will apparently go to one Special/Heavy weapon per five models in a squad.

Meaning, you could potentially have a six man Veteran Fire Team with a special weapon and Sergeant with a plasma pistol as well that could jump out of a Vendetta without too much issue.

The above is based purely on rumor and who knows if it's actually going to happen.

Meh.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

Pupettswar makes a load of interesting parts. The rocket pod is not new, I've seen it on as whirlwind proxy a few months ago.
The big turret and long barrel autocannons are refreshing news.


By the way, a topic for Militarum Tempestus has been opened in 40k general discssion section :
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/588110.page
There is a big insight of main scions rules there.

 Ravajaxe wrote:
Minutes ago dropped this :

[color=cyan]via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
1 ~ Sly Marbo will NOT be in the new Astra Militarum codex. He's gone. (possibly a future dataslate)

Basically confirmed when the Doom of Malan'tai went missing. How's that a rumor?


Here's a rumour for you. Next Dark Eldar Codex, Lady Malys, Duke Sliscus, etc.. will be missing.

Next Grey Knight Codex, Mordak will be missing...

The post-Chapterhouse purge continues

There are probably a few more SC in the (current) IG Codex, which will be cut due to a lack of a current model.

I call BS on the 6-men-transport capacity. Check the Stormtroopers Army-Box. 4 uglytrukks, 3 valkyries for 6 10-man squads and one team of 5, meaning that the flyers also have to transport 10, not only 5 or 6.

Zweischneid , you realise that Marbo has an official miniature ? That is even not out of stock ?
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440248a&prodId=prod1140072


This has nothing to do with the foreseeable removal of unique characters deprived of a model.
More with pushing us to buy dreaded dataslates.

Note that in the stormy army box that those are 3 valkyries, not 3 vendettas. AFAIK, valkyries still have space for 10 men. Plenty of space for everyone in the box. Furthermore, supposedly stormy codex does not get access to vendettas.

 Ravajaxe wrote:
Zweischneid , you realise that Marbo has an official miniature ? That is even not out of stock ?
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440248a&prodId=prod1140072


This has nothing to do with the foreseeable removal of unique characters deprived of a model.
More with pushing us to buy dreaded dataslates.

If they do this it would be disgusting. So i now need to buy an ipad to use Marbo if that's true, that's just wrong for the consumer.

No you can access data slates on a PC or similar too

I think it more likely Marbo will appear alongside Straken in a dedicated Codex Catachans.

Apart from being, y 'know, a Catachan character, the deathworlders are noticeably absent from the colour plate of famous regiments we've seen from the new Guard codex previews/leaks. With all the background, artwork and – critically – models GW have for Catachans, I really can't see them not releasing a proper Codex for them.

By the way, a new poster on dakka brought massive info about next guard codex in the 40k general discussion section :

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/588110.page

It comes from the tempestus scion codex. Go have a look.
To sum up what we know about IG fliers currently from this source, and faeit212 :


Valkyrie basic with hellstrike missiles : 125 points
Valkyrie with multiple rocket pods : 135 points
* upgrading multilaser to a laser cannon : +10 points

Vendetta (down to 6-troop transport capacity) : 170 points

Hooray for Marbo dataslate incoming.

I mean, why include something in a codex when you can charge $50 for a hardcover, 50 page book on Marbo's history and a single page of rules to include Marbo in your army.

I can see it now; Primary Detachment: Marbo. Because Marbo doesn't ally with people, people ally with Marbo.