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 angelofvengeance wrote:


I like how you've not gone massively over the top with the hazard stripes on your Iron Warriors.

Only because I cannot paint the things. That and on CSM bolters there is not a lot of room to paint them. The ones on the Land Raider are just transfers.

And fluff wise theoretically every CSM and their weapons could be covered with hazard stripes, it is all dangerous right?

Do not feel daft for asking, I do not even know why I brought up Mum here originally anyway, maybe just easier to share with people I do not really know? I am lucky anyway, some people never even know their parents (the Missus is in that situation). Mum lived a full life and was loved, I think we can ask for little more than that from life. But I do appreciate all of your thoughts, thank you.

I plan to try and finish the Havocs tonight and maybe even start the Dark Vengeance Chosen. Given their load outs and how many people bemoan their usefulness they may just be used as squad leaders in the army. Am above 1100pts worth already too and have a legal army of:

HQ
2 Troops
2 Fast Attack
2 Elite
and either a Heavy Support/ Dedicated Transport dependent on how I choose to use the Land Raider.

The big question is when do I decide to paint the 35 Cultists that I have.

Using the Chosen as Squad Leaders is a decent idea, they are too cool not to use but probably a pain to convert. If you're after ideas, though, I say convert the mace guy into a Dark Apostle to lead your Cultists (you only need to add some parchments, maybe a candle or two). Should be easy enough. For the rest, perhaps see if you can scrounge a Jump Pack or two so you can have some alternate Raptor leaders? (I'm thinking the PF user might be good here)

Some of them are detailed enough to work as anything up to a Lord as well, so the LC guy and the one with the Axe could just be alternative Chaos Lord loadouts.

I think the 30pts (IIRC) on the dual LC is a mental cost for a Chosen Marine. That said the idea of sticking them in a Rhino and causing havoc on the charge with their diverse load out could be fun.

My 10 year old nephew has also shown an interest in 40k so we are having a 1000pt a side Hawk Lords vs Iron Warriors game at the weekend. I will try and simplify the rules a bit for his first game and also try and make some even
sided army lists.

Looking forward to some Loyalist vs Traitor awesomeness then

Minis are looking great!

Sorry for your loss.

I've just caught up here. I'm sorry to hear the news about your Mum and Grandmother. Your painting as therapy has yielded some very nice results.

It's good to hear that your nephew has shown some interest in playing toy soldiers with you. Hope the game this weekend is a lot of fun. Take some pics and show them here!

I shall do, currently we have not decided who will be commanding who. I think I will let him see the armies and choose whichever he fancies best.

Here are the sample armies, any suggestions as to whether they are balanced enough?

Iron Warriors:

HQ: Chaos Lord, plasma pistol, power weapon, Aura of Dark Glory =120pts

Troops:

10 Chaos Space Marines, power weapon, meltagun, heavy bolter = 175pts.

6 Chaos Space Marines, close combat weapons, flamer, power weapon =124pts.

Elites:

Helbrute =105pts

5 Terminators, 2 power fists, reaper autocannon =196pts

Fast attack:

5 Raptors, 2 meltaguns, powerfist =140pts

Heavy Support:

5 Havocs, 2 Autocannons, 2 lascannons =135pts

Total =995pts.


Hawk Lords Space Marines: (N.B not filling the 2 troops slots with this one, I will let the combat squad Tacticals count as 2 choices)

HQ: Captain, Relic Blade =115pts

Troops:

10 Man Tactical Squad, flamer, missile launcher =160pts

Rhino =35pts

Elites:

Dreadnought=100pts

5 Man Terminator Squad =200pts

Fast Attack:

5 Man Assault Squad, power weapon, plasma pistol =115pts

Stormtalon, Lascannons =140pts

Heavy Support:

Vindicator =125pts

Total =990pts


I want it all painted on the table so I also have available:

Iron Warriors: Heldrake (170pts), Land Raider (230pts).

Hawk Lords: Sniper Scout Squad (74pts).

Will get some WIP pictures up later too.

Looks fine to me. Nothing in their screams OP, so you shoud be fine.

Looks like two even lists to me, I would include the Hawk Lords terminator squad as a troops choice. Other than that should be good, lets us know how it goes and pics are required

I do tend to write lists with things I like in them (mainly a bit of everything) rather than any kind of OP based army. Irrespective of how useless they are seen I believe that and Space Marine or CSM army should have a tactical squad in them (or the Chaos equivalent). Anyway Jack (my nephew) really enjoyed his first game. He chose Iron Warriors in the end and after 5 turns we called it a stalemate. I have plenty of pictures and will upload them soon. I think we may have a convert...

For now here are my completed Havocs (or Tank Killers as Jack called them).











Also got the Aspiring Champion (No codex entry for these though? Why?) from the re-release of dark vengeance the appallingly named Vrosh Tattersoul:

Have noticed a small brush hair on the power axe haft so I will remove that.







Toodle Pip.

There is a Codex entry- he's just a squad leader guy for your tactical squads etc. , not an actual HQ choice. Though you could always field him as your Lord/Chosen champion if you wanted. He certainly looks badass enough for the job.

I do wish Citadel or Forge World would do some holstered weapons other than pistols. I quite like the Aspiring champion's back pack.

Looking great I really like havocs and devastators, and havocs tend to do it with more style. Plus, autocannons!

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
I do tend to write lists with things I like in them (mainly a bit of everything) rather than any kind of OP based army. Irrespective of how useless they are seen I believe that and Space Marine or CSM army should have a tactical squad in them (or the Chaos equivalent). Anyway Jack (my nephew) really enjoyed his first game. He chose Iron Warriors in the end and after 5 turns we called it a stalemate. I have plenty of pictures and will upload them soon. I think we may have a convert...

For now here are my completed Havocs (or Tank Killers as Jack called them).

I like that way of approaching the game. I always do the same thing when I'm making my own forces for any game. Fluff and theme > WAAC.
The Havoc conversions look great, as does the champion. I really need to get back to my own IW one day. Poor, neglected little mites...

Hey Thraxas- since you're doing an Iron Warriors warband- you could get one of these metal Warsmiths for £8. How's that for a slice of fried gold? Beats paying £18 for the resin!

Where is the Warsmith available for 8 quid?

Games Workshop would you believe it lol

As it happens I bought one last week, a great deal in comparison to most single character models. It is made out of some sort of metal though, the material holds detail well, does not melt under reasonable temperatures and has a lovely heft to it. Maybe the material will catch on one day?


I also ordered a Warpsmith and Dante, the initial order came about because the 32mm bases were finally back in stock. I hope to get some WIPs of the characters up soon.

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
As it happens I bought one last week, a great deal in comparison to most single character models. It is made out of some sort of metal though, the material holds detail well, does not melt under reasonable temperatures and has a lovely heft to it. Maybe the material will catch on one day?

Hah! I don't hate Finecast as much as some (I've been lucky with the few I have) but I wouldn't mind seeing metal make a comeback from GW. Especially if we went back to £8 character models (yeah, right, a guy can dream!)

To be fair the Finecast Warpsmith and Dante were great casts, just too expensive and I think areas like delicate weapon hafts could be a problem. May have to look on the site to see how many metal minis are left.

A tiny update with a few WIP's and a finished Forgefiend:

Warsmith:(I replaced the rather feeble looking mechanical power claw thing with a power fist from the Warp Talon kit, I prefer it, I also put him on a 32mm base)






Warpsmith:





Dante:



And finally the Forgefiend:









I do love that kit so much. Until the next time...

Nice job there Thraxas- the gold came out really nicely!

Are you going to paint the chimneys on the sides to give it a fiery daemonic look? (I mean the eyes and mouths on them). Maybe get a few wisps of cotton wool and paint them a fiery red to go inside them?

Really nice work! Is Dante NMM or just metallics?

I love a good forgefiend! Other guys look great too!

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Nice job there Thraxas- the gold came out really nicely!

Are you going to paint the chimneys on the sides to give it a fiery daemonic look? (I mean the eyes and mouths on them). Maybe get a few wisps of cotton wool and paint them a fiery red to go inside them?

I painted (well given the consistency more washed) the chimneys/mouths/etc with Nikiliulrikakakakakakakakakakakaka oxide for a kind of Daemonic look. It obviously did not work.

@Para Doubt I will ever have the confidence to do NMM, the gold was gold over a silver undercoat with a sepia wash. Simple as.

@Grim Me too, may go for a Mauler next.

Old warsmith does look rather good on a 32mm, I was trying to resist the switch but he does look rather silly with his toes off the edge on 25's, same probably goes for the big chap as I just grabbed one in an effort to get a golden ticket.

Iron warriors are really coming along nicely, especially the dark vengeance lord on the page over, looks like I've got another blog to follow!

Great work, Thraxas. The GW Oxide on the Forgefiend doesn't look daemonic here, but works well as metal discolouration due to heat, etc. Warsmith and Warpsmith both look great as well.

So a couple of completed minis and some WIP.

First up are 4 ccw (and a plasma) marine to round out my unit to 10. These have legs from the AOW Not Chaos Warriors Kit.



I love this plasma CSM



WIP Chosen:



And finally the Warpsmith. The black and yellow mechatendrils may be a bit mental but i think i will stick with it:



And now the completed Warsmith:







and Dante:





and a face-off:



MyBlood angels army now stands at Dante, A Fragioso and 2 Terminators. I should really get painting more of them.

Ooo I'm really liking those Marines Thraxas! Those loin cloths do make them look like rag-tag veterans of the long war! And yeah that plasma gun marine looks awesome- I assume you used the one from the Raptor kit

Dante has come out quite nicely too though if you wanted you could add some muzzle burn to his Inferno pistol.

The new IW are looking good as always. Are the legs from the AoW Not-Nurgle version of the Not-Chaos Warrior kit? I'd like to see some more pic from different angles, etc if you could?

Great stuff, the CSM conversions are really neat and Dante looks great.