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 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Taking Shadowsuns head? Right, we can all see where this is going..

Well shadowsun could ID him with twin FBs.

He's on a bike, no? That means T5 and no ID, on the other hand, his sword is ID on a 6 .

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Taking Shadowsuns head? Right, we can all see where this is going..

Well shadowsun could ID him with twin FBs.

He's on a bike, no? That means T5 and no ID, on the other hand, his sword is ID on a 6 .

And she doesn't have a 2+ armor save, or, AFAIK, no invulnerable save. Que sad Tau panda.

Nobody with a mini or a big presence in the fluff is going to die. If that were to happen, consider me pleasantly surprised.

She is nearly invisible and can float like a butterfly and sting like a bee... Not to mention her drones...

Iracundus wrote:
Now with the Knight releases and all this they may make it less one sided, but unless they retcon, it'll still be an Imperial defeat, albeit a "heroic" one.

Was there ever a major Imperial Tau conflict where the Imperials won?

 BrookM wrote:
Nobody with a mini or a big presence in the fluff is going to die. If that were to happen, consider me pleasantly surprised.

Remember how Eldrad died in the Blackstone fortress, but still can be taken in an Eldar army?

Everything is up on games workshop page.

Books and Formations.

 ace101 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Nobody with a mini or a big presence in the fluff is going to die. If that were to happen, consider me pleasantly surprised.

Remember how Eldrad died in the Blackstone fortress, but still can be taken in an Eldar army?

GW undid that whole thing, like it never happened.

 BrookM wrote:

 ace101 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Nobody with a mini or a big presence in the fluff is going to die. If that were to happen, consider me pleasantly surprised.

Remember how Eldrad died in the Blackstone fortress, but still can be taken in an Eldar army?

GW undid that whole thing, like it never happened.

"You've seen it! You can't un-see it!" Is definitely not GWS' policy.

Some things, while neat on paper, don't work all that well when put into action.

 ace101 wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Taking Shadowsuns head? Right, we can all see where this is going..

Well shadowsun could ID him with twin FBs.

He's on a bike, no? That means T5 and no ID, on the other hand, his sword is ID on a 6 .

And she doesn't have a 2+ armor save, or, AFAIK, no invulnerable save. Que sad Tau panda.

First, it was a JOKE. No need to dissect it. I'm not familiar with the SM codex so all I know is that SMs are almost all T4. This is what happens when I try to tell a joke apparently.

Also she has a 5++ save and two drones with 3++ and she comes with a bodyguard unit.

Panda?

 BrookM wrote:

 ace101 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Nobody with a mini or a big presence in the fluff is going to die. If that were to happen, consider me pleasantly surprised.

Remember how Eldrad died in the Blackstone fortress, but still can be taken in an Eldar army?

GW undid that whole thing, like it never happened.

When did GW undo the stories of the Primarchs and of Celestine

The only previous Damocles novel (Savage Scars) was famous for characterizing Tau in two ways:
Those that end as a bloody pile of meat through a gun shot and those that end as a bloody pile of meat through a close combat attack.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Inevitable Imperial loss?

Who cares? Do Imperial losses even really mean anything?

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 ace101 wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Taking Shadowsuns head? Right, we can all see where this is going..

Well shadowsun could ID him with twin FBs.

He's on a bike, no? That means T5 and no ID, on the other hand, his sword is ID on a 6 .

And she doesn't have a 2+ armor save, or, AFAIK, no invulnerable save. Que sad Tau panda.

First, it was a JOKE. No need to dissect it. I'm not familiar with the SM codex so all I know is that SMs are almost all T4. This is what happens when I try to tell a joke apparently.

Also she has a 5++ save and two drones with 3++ and she comes with a bodyguard unit.

Panda?

You guys seriously arguing fluff of who would kill who and trying to use 40k rules? In the game system a space marine is only 16% stronger than a basic human, it's a D6 system with little to no variation of stats.

Yeah, we should just go back to "My faction can beat up your faction!"

Which is really all these Apocalypse releases are anyway, with a loose framework of (bad) rules, I guess.

 Kirasu wrote:

You guys seriously arguing fluff of who would kill who and trying to use 40k rules? In the game system a space marine is only 16% stronger than a basic human, it's a D6 system with little to no variation of stats.

No, it was my exasperation when they did not get an obvious joke and than a correction on a mistake they made.





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I'm not sure if anyone posted it but it's up Apocalypse War Zone: Damocles
$33.00
Apocalypse War Zone: Damocles
All across the Damocles Gulf planet-wide battles are being fought. Led by Commander Shadowsun, the Tau have returned to reclaim the region they lost long ago. The Imperial Guard, bolstered by White Scars and Raven Guard Space Marines and Imperial Knights, defend the worlds of the Imperium against the Tau Third Sphere Expansion.

Apocalypse War Zone: Damocles is the 4th book in the series. This 68 page, full-colour hardback book includes:

- Eighteen new data sheets for Imperial Guard, Imperial Knights, Space Marines and Tau Empire.
- 4 New apocalypse missions
- New strategic assets and Damocles finest hours


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Also, look at this monstrocity Shadowsun's Firststrike Assault Hunter Cadre
$1,881.00

I'm pretty sure all the fire warrior squads is padding that number out quite a bit, but still, god damn that's a lot of money.

Which reminds me, I've been meaning to count up all my Tau models and find out what I actually own, but I'm afraid to. I love hammerheads, but I don't think even I have six of the damn things.

I just noticed something. The army is built for double FOC, but it's missing an HQ, it only has one.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
I just noticed something. The army is built for double FOC, but it's missing an HQ, it only has one.

No, its an Apocalypse formation.

I really cannot keep up with the dizzying pace GW releases books/supplements/data slates anymore. Someone needs to make a sticky guide.

 Peregrine wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Chances are enhanced shields or the like, the Knight codex makes mention of a trio of Terryn Knights utterly fething the gak of the Tau up to such a degree that Shadowsun was forced to deploy prototype Riptides en masse to keep her army from running the feth away.

Oh good, so I guess GW's fluff writers will continue to refuse to acknowledge that the FW Tau units exist? You know, ones like the Tigershark AX-1-0 that one-shots a Warhound (much bigger and nastier than a mere knight), or the Manta that is an even match for a Reaver/Warlord titan? I guess it's better to try to drive sales of the "awesome" new Riptide and knights...

If that's the goal, it will be 50% successful at best, because the Knights proceed to ruin the Riptides' and are only eventually driven off by railgun shots from an ace Hammerhead.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Chances are enhanced shields or the like, the Knight codex makes mention of a trio of Terryn Knights utterly fething the gak of the Tau up to such a degree that Shadowsun was forced to deploy prototype Riptides en masse to keep her army from running the feth away.

Oh good, so I guess GW's fluff writers will continue to refuse to acknowledge that the FW Tau units exist? You know, ones like the Tigershark AX-1-0 that one-shots a Warhound (much bigger and nastier than a mere knight), or the Manta that is an even match for a Reaver/Warlord titan? I guess it's better to try to drive sales of the "awesome" new Riptide and knights...

If that's the goal, it will be 50% successful at best, because the Knights proceed to ruin the Riptides' and are only eventually driven off by railgun shots from an ace Hammerhead.

They put their Knights in a triangle, more or less covering the entire formation with their shields, making it really hard to get through.

So walker 4++ better than MC 3++...... yeah....

I can write like a GW writer too.

One Knight takes out an entire cadre highhandedly, rips the turret off of a hammerhead and bats 10 riptides into orbit with one swat, all while the pilot is taking a dump in the back of the cockpit.

Well, at least they got a great artist to do the cover art:

Agreed.. definitely a nice cover. I have to say that most of the covers I've seen in 6e have been quite nice with only one so far that I'd characterize as "meh" (Nids).

It helps that all the main codex books are done by the same artist (Raymond Swanland), so they keep the same style and direction. Supplements and whatnot are usually done by others, though a lot are done by the artist linked above.

That picture depicts the exact moment where Shryke and Khan, locked in single combat with a being not built for melee, managed to get blasted away by an unseen AX-1-0 Tiger Shark (the first - and last - one seen since the battles on Taros). The attack killed none of them (somehow), but it was the only way to avoid having Shadowsun get curbstomped by two people she had no business being anywhere near.

Or she had some very, very lucky Look Out Sir! rolls and ran away like the cowardly little fish that she is while her two bodyguards get chopped into sushi.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That picture depicts the exact moment where Shryke and Khan, locked in single combat with a being not built for melee, managed to get blasted away by an an unseen AX-1-0 Tiger Shark (the first - and last - one seen since the battles on Taros). The attack killed none of them (somehow), but it was the only way to avoid having Shadowsun get curbstomped by two people she had no business being anywhere near.

The 40k overall plot has long resembled an RPG campaign with a really bad GM...

 BrookM wrote:
It helps that all the main codex books are done by the same artist (Raymond Swanland), so they keep the same style and direction. Supplements and whatnot are usually done by others, though a lot are done by the artist linked above.

Agreed and thanks for the link. I got to download a cool pic of the farsight cover that was bigger than previous ones I saw. Also.. this... it's not Mk18 or whatever armor from the Dornian Heresy but I like it for the same reason!

It would explain how Eldrad's demise was undone.

"I know it's your favourite character, but dead is dead. Awww, come on, don't give me the puppy eyes, come on.. Okay, fiiiiiiiine, that never happened!"