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 azreal13 wrote:
Well, it's taken me a few hours, but I've cracked it!

I couldn't understand, given GW seem almost fanatical about keeping their customers in the mindset of them being the HHHobby, why they'd construct a website that, as far as they are concerned, is the sole direct point of interaction with their customer base outside of their stores that completely and utterly fails to show what the HHHobby is to those people.

Then I realised!

The HHHobby isn't painstakingly collecting, painting and playing with a collection of Citadel miniatures in one of the amazingly richly detailed universes that many creative people have built and enriched over decades, and all the associated skills, techniques and ideas associated with that any more.

The HHHobby is "buying things from Games Workshop"

I declare the new site fit for purpose and a triumph!

Well, that is the bit of The HHHobby that is most obviously profitable for GW.

man I'm so glad all those pesky FAQs are gone for good now.

I can finally tell my opponent his FMC does not have skyfire and give him my rulebook to disprove me, and he wont be able to.

 Lansirill wrote:

 PrehistoricUFO wrote:
Oh man, I LOVE the new site.
Hm. I seriously am not sure how I'm supposed to play the game without FAQs. I'm just sitting here, watching the pretty flames, and playing my fiddle.

Simple, since there are no official word on it, its a great opportunity to bring back the initial, non FAQed wound allocation for LoS. I can bring back my Nobz biker that are CH ;-)

Seriously:
1) Site looks "good" but its purely a store front. As a store, its working fine for me. But, this new sites make me feel like its as if they have a "corporate" front that is in the work but is not ready yet that would work as a "Settings" orriented site (blogs, army descriptions, FAQs, etc...). *
2) I'm a developper, for the retention of user data, its really a no brainer. *
3) If they are not working on a new "Settings" site, dropping the FAQs seems to support that they don't care about supporting them in the short term and that 7th edition is really comming up soon.... or they really no longer care*
4) If FAQs really are a goner forever and that a 7th edition doesn't happen, I strongly beleive that if this game is to survive outisde of friendly games (even there), an organized third party FAQ will have to come in to fill in the void (like the one from Adepticon but beefed up tremendously). Its really a matter of a group standing out with a good FAQ/Unoffical Erratas and gaining the respect of every one to support their FAQs as the one true set of FAQs(but that takes time).

* Since GW usually does everything I wouldn't do and don't do what I would, who knows ...

Anyways, my two cents


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 Sir Arun wrote:
man I'm so glad all those pesky FAQs are gone for good now.

I can finally tell my opponent his FMC does not have skyfire and give him my rulebook to disprove me, and he wont be able to.

Mmmm, wasn't the Hellchicken aslo FAQed to have turrets for their breath weapons?

;-)

Eww its horrid!
the navigation of the store is actually rather irritating now, simple things like hyper linking the lil pluses, but not the actual text.
I dont think the designer actually uses webstores somehow. And have just done what is thought to be cool instead of what is genuinely good.

Hah, they actually list each individual variant of any multi-unit kit as a separate product. What a bunch of tossers.

I rather like the design! Normally I'm terribly critical of GW but I found it easy to navigate and I like the intuitive filter along the sidebar.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Hah, they actually list each individual variant of any multi-unit kit as a separate product. What a bunch of tossers.

I actually kind of like that...

 MajorTom11 wrote:
It's a bit friendlier for mobile... but apart from that, what an incredibly cookie-cutter wordpress site. What happend to FW and BL integration? What exactly is improved here? Looks like as usual, they took things away, left the rest as-is, re-skinned it and called it all new...

They've been doing that regularly with the plastic kits. New box art = new slightly higher price. I guess they just decided to extend that to the digital realm.


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 paqman wrote:
4) If FAQs really are a goner forever and that a 7th edition doesn't happen, I strongly beleive that if this game is to survive outisde of friendly games (even there), an organized third party FAQ will have to come in to fill in the void (like the one from Adepticon but beefed up tremendously). Its really a matter of a group standing out with a good FAQ/Unoffical Erratas and gaining the respect of every one to support their FAQs as the one true set of FAQs(but that takes time).

Last I checked (and it has been a while), the adepticon FAQs refer back to the official ones except in the very few cases where they're explicitly changing something. If the official sources are now gone, they'll have a bit more work to do for the next batch in time for Adepticon 2015. Previously existing FAQs can just be cut/pasted in but IG/Orks/BA/Whatever comes out between then and now will have to be made up from scratch.

Davor wrote:

 MajorTom11 wrote:
It's a bit friendlier for mobile... but apart from that, what an incredibly cookie-cutter wordpress site. What happend to FW and BL integration? What exactly is improved here? Looks like as usual, they took things away, left the rest as-is, re-skinned it and called it all new...

GW never promised it. Just rumours from strangers, that is all. Can't be disappointed what GW never said or promised.

Sure I can lol, a good idea being left undone can disappoint me all I want lol. I just can't hold them responsible for breaking a promise as you rightly point out, I can however think they missed an opportunity.

What is this mentality that because they didn't promise to do a good job one can't be disappointed they didn't do a good job anyways? Of course, being subjective and general here, but the principal is what I take issue with. Are we only allowed to have expectations and standards as dictated by the company? Have we no say in determining our own wants and hopes?

The loss of the errata and faq section might well be the death of them.
Im seriously considering ebaying off all GW product I own right now. Because of this :/ I dont play much, but its something Ive always been keen to do more. No FAQ's means that all the forgotten things, ambiguously worded rules, and basically debatable entries in codex books are now up for argument and debate once again. Even after having been settled previously.

All that for them to spruce up a webstore :/ what on earth are they thinking?

Well first lets see if the marketing department at GW will find a way to SELL the faqs back to us

I'll probably find something to order to get the "free" mini, but I'm not that impressed with the new website...

Was the Militarum Tempestus (Scion) Codex Limited Edition? I can't seem to find it on the new website. I knew it was direct only. I didn't think it was limited edition... but... ;shrug who knows. Maybe it is just overlooked and will be up as soon as somebody realizes it is gone.

 sarduka42 wrote:
Well first lets see if the marketing department at GW will find a way to SELL the faqs back to us

Probably. An ibook of nothing but FAQs that is updated automatically for $10-15 sounds in line with GW's recent DLC ethos. This is just the next step in taking stuff that was free on the website and charging for it.

I noticed that the only way to purchase an HQ choice for Orks is through GW. Is this the case for all the other 40k armies?

This would make constructing a "legal" army from your FLGS impossible. Unless you use counts as, that is.

 draugadan wrote:
Was the Militarum Tempestus (Scion) Codex Limited Edition? I can't seem to find it on the new website. I knew it was direct only. I didn't think it was limited edition... but... ;shrug who knows. Maybe it is just overlooked and will be up as soon as somebody realizes it is gone.

As said before in this and the IG thread:
Sold out in North America and taken from NA webstore.

Whilst the website is certainly not the best, I am hardly surprised by it. I was expecting the website to be pretty plain and built for only for selling products because that is GW's business model nowadays. It's as though some of you live under a rock, thinking that the new website was going to be a hobbyists utopia with free FAQ's and articles only to be severely disappointed, failing to acknowledge that GW stopped doing free content ages ago.

I'm pleased with it ladies & gents, for one very good reason - a virtual gift voucher from a couple of years back that I'd never received (due to my pal sending it to my FB email - go figure) just got resent out there.

Re-registered online and redeemed it. Free money. Result.

If they do infact try to sell FAQ's and errata to us.. they can feth right off! A vast chunk of those articles are actually their shoddy spelling and grammar mistakes, and formatting errors aswell as rules not working the way they intended.
Simply put I WILL NOT be paying for that

 MetalOxide wrote:
Whilst the website is certainly not the best, I am hardly surprised by it. I was expecting the website to be pretty plain and built for only for selling products because that is GW's business model nowadays. It's as though some of you live under a rock, thinking that the new website was going to be a hobbyists utopia with free FAQ's and articles only to be severely disappointed, failing to acknowledge that GW stopped doing free content ages ago.

Yeah it's weird that some people are surprised that GW have just broken their biggest selling game completely...

I wonder if store owners got word of that... or if it's been something that already existed through slow transition to direct only. If suddenly overnight something went from "order direct only at a lower discount" to just plain unavailable, that would be a jolt considering it is a required part of an army. I didn't look through all the entries but the three warboss entries are webstore exclusives.

 draugadan wrote:
Was the Militarum Tempestus (Scion) Codex Limited Edition? I can't seem to find it on the new website. I knew it was direct only. I didn't think it was limited edition... but... ;shrug who knows. Maybe it is just overlooked and will be up as soon as somebody realizes it is gone.

It is limited edition in the long run from what I've heard, but they ran out of copies and had to do a second print run because it sold out so perhaps the limited edition aspect won't stay that way.

I'm liking the new interface. From a UI perspective, it makes finding things much easier, from individual kits organized by FOC or army, or however else.

Also, notice how many products are in the Web Store Exclusive now. TONS of finecast and metal kits in there, lots of characters, and some larger bundles as well.

Havocs, Bjorn, Flayed Ones, Tankbustas, tons of things that apparently you can only order through the site... 400+ products! What the heck? Plague Marines, Fire Dragons... GW carefully controlling the release of finecast models, taking stock of what sells and what doesn't.. It makes sense as they make the transition away from finecast.

Interesting stuff. I like it. I don't miss the FAQ's very much, and I have a feeling we'll see something come back, either in the form of a new edition that includes the FAQ fixes...

My money is on 6.5. Not 7th edition, but 6.5, with a box set that pits Orks vs. Blood Angels.

All the exclusive stuff has been exclusive for a long time now, we're just able to notice what is exclusive a lot easier now.

 shamikebab wrote:

 MetalOxide wrote:
Whilst the website is certainly not the best, I am hardly surprised by it. I was expecting the website to be pretty plain and built for only for selling products because that is GW's business model nowadays. It's as though some of you live under a rock, thinking that the new website was going to be a hobbyists utopia with free FAQ's and articles only to be severely disappointed, failing to acknowledge that GW stopped doing free content ages ago.

Yeah it's weird that some people are surprised that GW have just broken their biggest selling game completely...

Games Workshop has been on the self destructive path for a while now, so it is hardly news that they screwed the website up.

Anyone else think this new marine looks odd with how he's holding that gun? And that sword... is it meant to be a throwback to 2nd ed?

I prefer the new version of the site to the old one,

but the lack of FAQ access is as has been pointed out STOOPID

(although I would not be surprised if they just forgot to put a link in ... after all game-playing is not the central business which is selling stuff... but I think they will reappear eventually)

 n0t_u wrote:
Anyone else think this new marine looks odd with how he's holding that gun? And that sword... is it meant to be a throwback to 2nd ed?

He's a remake of a 1991 Games Day Exclusive model.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 n0t_u wrote:
Anyone else think this new marine looks odd with how he's holding that gun? And that sword... is it meant to be a throwback to 2nd ed?

He's a remake of a 1991 Games Day Exclusive model.

Thanks for that, I thought he looked a touch familiar in parts.

I'm surprised at the lack of any explanation on the website about their game systems. It's just a webstore now, not even a front to promote their games?

If I point someone new to their site for information about the game, the site is useless to tell them anything.