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This would make me so happy, im not holding my breath or anything, But that would be a fair way of making it happen IMO.

Finally Flash Gitz wil be a viable choice :-D

These are very unlikely. I would put little to no stock in them and would not even have bothered tracking them. I too am dying to talk about orks but I am not going to start a bogus rumor thread to get people talking about them again. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/549534.page there is a link to the current rumor roundup thread for orks. As you can see there are 0 reliable rumor mongers saying anything remotely believable about orks except that they are going to be after IG. GW seems to have put a tight lid on rumors in the past few weeks. We only seem to get new info with the printing of each new WD. So all that we really know is that promethum pipes are next. Hastings where are you? :(

Judging from the late 'let's give the something cool!' GW trend, I'd say Orks are in for another disappointing surprise

I don't think it's possible to fook up Orks with conventional vehicles or weird, unheard-of infantry. To do that, you'd have to dig deeper.. So, I'm estimating the next thing Orks get are Ork Cold One Cavalry, or possibly an Ork Pterodactyl. Something to do with dinosaurs or other beasts, anyway. No, not a Squiggoth, that would be too close to existing fluff.

 prowla wrote:
Ork Pterodactyl.

I'd buy that. Sounds great fun.

There are too many missing or outdated units in the current codex to count. I am sure we will get flash gits, megga nobz, buggies, deff coptas and, some kind of hq options.


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oh and lets not forget the obligitory "new thingy" that tourney players will make and auto include. I am just really hoping for any kind of new news that seems half plauseable.

I feel that the current Nob plastic kit is the best ork kit available. If they can bring that kind of customization to these rumored infantry kits, I will be thrilled.

Big Gob wrote:
I feel that the current Nob plastic kit is the best ork kit available. If they can bring that kind of customization to these rumored infantry kits, I will be thrilled.

Considering the sheer amount of bits and customization in even the new stock Space Marine kit, I expect nothing short of Orky greatness with whatever plastic infantry kits come out.

Given orks have been on the -who-gives-a-feth-that- they-need-an-update list for years, i think you might be being a bit opimistic there

Some armies have had 2 new codexes since Orks had their current one, and the only model updates have been the (admittedly brilliant) Kanz and Dredds, and the planes.

 Ascalam wrote:
Given orks have been on the -who-gives-a-feth-that- they-need-an-update list for years, i think you might be being a bit opimistic there

Some armies have had 2 new codexes since Orks had their current one, and the only model updates have been the (admittedly brilliant) Kanz and Dredds, and the planes.

Regardless they are sure to be the next update. There are no other xenos races out there to go after AM. I would however not be surprised if they got 4 solid weeks of releases. No supplements or data slates just 4 weeks of codex orks because there are so many kits missing for them. Think about it. just to fill the dex that we do have they need deffcoptas, Wazdaka (may end up getting the axe), Zogwart (probably heading for the headsman too) provided the two special characters do not get lost in action that still 3 kits just to fill up the old dex. So if you throw in something new and a clampack character that is 5 kits. If they decide to update the models that are so old they almost don't even fit the aesthetic anymore buggie/wartrack, mega nobz, flash gitz, big gunz, komandos, tank bustas and, grotsnik... well then we are talking 12 kits just to give us what is alredy in the dex even if the double up say mega nobz and flash gits as well as tank bustas and komandos that is still 10 kits. This however is the most unlikely scenario. A far more likely scenario is that we will most likely see, repackaged boyz 15 boyz and the upgrade sprue for 45 bucks, all of the missing charterers will go bye bye, we will get something new, mega nobz/ flashgitz kit, buggies/deffkopta kit and that will probably be that.

They said that YEARS ago.

I wouldn't be shocked at this point if there are a few more codexes first. Knights, for example, wasn't predicted. Neither was the stormtroopers codex, though regular guard was.

They'll be along eventually, but I'm getting pretty hacked off as release after release comes out and still no orks..

You're probably right on the release. Up the prices, add some new kit and slash any unit without a kit..

I can't imagine they will update the basic Ork sprue. They just did that last update. Plus the kit is fine as is.

We might see a Tankbustas/Flashgits... And I agree characters without models might disappear... As will any kit without models.

I would expect to see a meganob kit with some sort of additional build, maybe additional heavy weapons for the dual kit options. Buggies, big guns, and deffkoptaz are the obvious needs. The real question is what the new, unexpected thing will be? Larger bomber? Big tank (orks used to have a ton of old tanks)? Squiggoth? Who knows.

I don't think they will update the basic boyz box, just repack it like they did with gaunts. with any luck they may even be cheaper. Although I would venture to guess more expensive. IMO the nights and storm troopers don't really count. They are really just supplements. Maybe GW got tired of all the "this is not allowed because it is not a codex it is a supplement" talk and just started putting the word codex on them instead of adding the word supplement to them. or perhaps they just did not want to waste the ink on the word supplement...

I don't see them even repacking the Ork sprue, unless it's just a new box. The current kit has two boyz sprues and one sprue with all the command and heavy weapon options, and I don't think it'll get changed at all, unless we'd be seeing boxes of like 6 Ork boyz, which would be silly. I'd expect the Chaos Marine treatment of a new box and nothing else.

Just thinking aloud: If all characters without a modell are axed, why is everyone so sure that flash gitz will get a kit instead of being axed?

There is one major problem here: Tank bustas are regular boyz with more explosives than brains. Flash Gitz however are Nobz. Thus, larger modells. So, a Nob/Flash Git-kit would make sense. One could just throw in another sprue of AT weapons to the lootaz/burnaz-kit. Likewise, another sprue of crazy combi-weapons and maybe some ammo-packs turns the regular nobs into decent enough flash gitz.

And then again, GW could just tell us make like a tree and completely squat Flash gitz.

Yeah flash gits can get the axe i guess. but there is a badruk model to suggest that that won't happen in addition in the farsight enclaves book there is a special senario featuring badruk and flash gitz. I would think that if they did decide to make a kit for flash gitz, they could decide to leave them up to converters I have seen several great conversions for them, I would think that they would be combined with mega nobz. maybe 2 torso options would be enough. I really don't see them completely redoing mega nobz cause then they would have to change gazgull around too and that would just be too much. Have there been any new special character models in 6th ed? Just farsight right? and none after they stopped produceing new finecast.

Ork fluff and history is rich in things they could use for Dataslates. Just bringing back Freebooter lists, Speed Freaks, and Clans could give alternate army lists as either dataslates or 50 HC codices they can make money on.

But as others have said, with a little work GW could really screw up the codex, in similar ways to what they did with the Fantasy Orcs. I would love to see usable rules, without the crippling "wacky" things they have done in the past. Tankbusters are a great example of this. And hopefully, as in all other 40k armies, all ork units have access to basic transport.

I am expecting to be disappointed, but at the same time the Ork in me can't wait for new excuses to paint more models. Current project is converting wonderfully clunky Centurian armor to Meganobz.

Those are going to be pretty big mega nobz! but they should look really cool! post some pics when you can would love to see them!

What if they Grey Knight the Orks?

Maintain basic Boyz box, toss in a Tankbusta/ Flashgitz sprue (with extra armor to cover up the fact that they're nobs- if they're nobs in the new codex, and eliminate the kit from production? Hike the basic boyz kit by 20% to compensate, and rake in the monies.

Justification?

I gave that Ork bitz.
Orks love bitz.

^^
HAHAHA! awsome I love it and would pay for it! Orks do love bits! but I would see them doing this with lootas and burnas if they did do it. That is a verry good point about them maybe not being nobz in the new codex. nothing wrong with a little bit of fluff change. no reason that the ork fluff should stay the same I mean it is not like there are any orks recording there own history or anything. regardless whatever we get I will really only be buying 1 maybe 2 kits at the most anyway. but whatever I buy it is going to be new.

I think a kommando/tankbusta kit, mega nobz kit, (maybe an upgrade sprue for flash gitz and painboyz to be used with nob boxes), and a looted wagon / ork anti air tank kit.

I would not expect a new boyz box as the current line of boyz seems to provide enough bits to and visual aesthetic to be on par with the current releases.

Why on earth would they need a looted wagon kit? The whole point of the looted wagon is that it is a tank that you can convert from any tank from any arm by adding some orky bits and a red paint job! I will be very upset if they waste a release spot on a looted wagon which any respectable ork already has in his arsenal! If you want a looted wagon fallow these simple steps
1. buy any tank from any army that is super beat up and in terrible condition.
2.Add orky bitz gobins gunz and maybe even an ork in the hatch of the tank.
3. paint it
4. roam around the battle field in the coolest model in your collection even if it does nothing to help you tactically!


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Maybe a big mek tank with some cool options for a combo tank with the aa gunz. I really just don't see an aa tank either cause orkes don't care whats in the air!

rothrich wrote:
Why on earth would they need a looted wagon kit? The whole point of the looted wagon is that it is a tank that you can convert from any tank from any arm by adding some orky bits and a red paint job! I will be very upset if they waste a release spot on a looted wagon which any respectable ork already has in his arsenal! If you want a looted wagon fallow these simple steps
1. buy any tank from any army that is super beat up and in terrible condition.
2.Add orky bitz gobins gunz and maybe even an ork in the hatch of the tank.
3. paint it
4. roam around the battle field in the coolest model in your collection even if it does nothing to help you tactically!


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Maybe a big mek tank with some cool options for a combo tank with the aa gunz. I really just don't see an aa tank either cause orkes don't care whats in the air!

Given that GW has the past few years really cracked down on things not having a model to represent them I fear that they may take out the whole Looted Wagon entry altogether because it promotes conversions and kitbashing. They may replace it with their own idea of a "standard" Orky MBT, even though Orks are known to loot other race's vehicles, because of their erroneous belief that this will give them an increase in model sales by "forcing" us to buy an official model.

Yeah, we don't need a looted wagon kit, although a 'looting sprue' (lots of armour plates with rivets and bolts etc for fixing up enemy vehicles we find/steal) would be welcome, and equally useful for detailing all our vehicles.

What we need is better rules for looted wagons, instead of the uninspired 'unreliable Rhino with some extra shootiness' current rule. Maybe something modular, so we get to choose the armour (paying more the thicker it gets, of course) etc, and ditto for weaponry of varying strengths. But it would need to be balanced very carefully, to avoid being too good or overshadowing the normal ork vehicles.

Or just get rid of the looted wagon rules entirely, and add better vehicle upgrades so that e.g. we can pay for something similar to a Leman Russ when we want to field a Leman Russ model. We had something similar a few codexes ago, and were able to buy a variety of vehicles from other codexes at full points cost, but as I recall suffering an orky BS2 penalty. It wasn't perfect, but was fun and caused few grizzles from opponents.

I want to believe these are true...

rest assured I can almost guarantee that most or none of these rumors are at all true.

 Kosake wrote:
Just thinking aloud: If all characters without a modell are axed, why is everyone so sure that flash gitz will get a kit instead of being axed?

There is one major problem here: Tank bustas are regular boyz with more explosives than brains. Flash Gitz however are Nobz. Thus, larger modells. So, a Nob/Flash Git-kit would make sense. One could just throw in another sprue of AT weapons to the lootaz/burnaz-kit. Likewise, another sprue of crazy combi-weapons and maybe some ammo-packs turns the regular nobs into decent enough flash gitz.

And then again, GW could just tell us make like a tree and completely squat Flash gitz.

What on earth are you people talking about?

Maybe you should check the orkish heavy support section of the GW homepage. There has always been a model for flash gits. It even was converted from metal to finecast when everything else was.

 Jidmah wrote:

 Kosake wrote:
Just thinking aloud: If all characters without a modell are axed, why is everyone so sure that flash gitz will get a kit instead of being axed?

There is one major problem here: Tank bustas are regular boyz with more explosives than brains. Flash Gitz however are Nobz. Thus, larger modells. So, a Nob/Flash Git-kit would make sense. One could just throw in another sprue of AT weapons to the lootaz/burnaz-kit. Likewise, another sprue of crazy combi-weapons and maybe some ammo-packs turns the regular nobs into decent enough flash gitz.

And then again, GW could just tell us make like a tree and completely squat Flash gitz.

What on earth are you people talking about?

Maybe you should check the orkish heavy support section of the GW homepage. There has always been a model for flash gits. It even was converted from metal to finecast when everything else was.

Are you talking about that one, single, ugly pirates of the morkribean-style model they offer to collectors? Flash gitz are supposed to have supperior weaponry, lots of barrels, additional ammo feeds, energy weapons... basically something that resembles the stuff lootas use, but with more awesome to it.
Not a friggin wooden blunderbus. Also, do you want to field a unit of 10 absolutely identical models?

I second Kosake on that. The one they have on GW's site is lacking... flash Gitz need to look well more flashy.

Like this...

Flash gitz have always had the problem of not fitting in the codex. If they are heavy support then they compete with wagons and gunz. If they are elites then they compete with nobz and lootaz. I think they should either drop them or really make them over the top to compete with the others that are no brainers.