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 Kroothawk wrote:
Here a set of rumours from a source that prefers to stay anonymous:

The new mid size stompa thing looks like a pregnant Deff Dread. Comes with various weapon mountings, including what looks like a KFF.
New Gretchin models, including a grot oiler.
New mega nobs, not plastic versions of the existing.
Big Mek in mega armour with some interesting KFF like add ons.
Big Mek in Mega Armour with shoulder mounted weapons, maybe SAG but doesn't look like it.
Warboss is similar to the remodelling of the Helbrute from Dark Vengeance, it looks like a reworking of the AOBR Warboss with an attack Squig
New Pain Boy with a kind of Narthecium cybork hand.
Flash Gitz (They look particularly awesome, very much like Freebootaz with loads of variation in the kit).
Big Gunz. Total redesign.

So this is going under your track then?

 pretre wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Here a set of rumours from a source that prefers to stay anonymous:

The new mid size stompa thing looks like a pregnant Deff Dread. Comes with various weapon mountings, including what looks like a KFF.

So this is going under your track then?

So, our big kit is a large mechanized transport walker.

Bingo.

 pretre wrote:
So this is going under your track then?

Nope. Rumours make sense and sound reasonable, I think they are correct, I know the source but I personally can't guarantee anything. In this case, I am, as so often, just the messenger, not the source. Seems you can't track this one.

Those sound more plausible than a lot of other stuff we've heard so far.

Let's hope the codex is as interesting as that stack of rumors.

I can't shake the "First codex of a new edition" fear now :(

 matphat wrote:

Goresaw wrote:
Thats for a new book to decide.

And since we're going to be the first book of a new edition... we're screwed. Welcome to chaos town, sans helldrake.

I'm really surprised, and yet, not surprised at all that so many people are still convinced that this is a new edition instead of a repackaging of the current 6th Ed. rules, errata, and FAQs.

Well the newest stuff proves its not a repackaging of current rules. Unless you consider the rules stupidity refined into its purest form. Then yes, they are repackaging that and selling it for $80+.

Goresaw wrote:

 matphat wrote:

Goresaw wrote:
Thats for a new book to decide.

And since we're going to be the first book of a new edition... we're screwed. Welcome to chaos town, sans helldrake.

I'm really surprised, and yet, not surprised at all that so many people are still convinced that this is a new edition instead of a repackaging of the current 6th Ed. rules, errata, and FAQs.

Well the newest stuff proves its not a repackaging of current rules. Unless you consider the rules stupidity refined into its purest form. Then yes, they are repackaging that and selling it for $80+.

Agreed. Seems like enough will change that you'll need to buy the new book, or hopefully they will release FAQs for the current one.

 Squidbot wrote:
I can't shake the "First codex of a new edition" fear now :(

Is there even a pattern of early codexes being bad? I seem to recall that the space marine codex which came out at the start of fifth edition was pretty decent, if not terribly powerful.

What were the first codexes of fourth edition?

 Kroothawk wrote:
Here a set of rumours from a source that prefers to stay anonymous:

The new mid size stompa thing looks like a pregnant Deff Dread. Comes with various weapon mountings, including what looks like a KFF.
New Gretchin models, including a grot oiler.
New mega nobs, not plastic versions of the existing.
Big Mek in mega armour with some interesting KFF like add ons.
Big Mek in Mega Armour with shoulder mounted weapons, maybe SAG but doesn't look like it.
Warboss is similar to the remodelling of the Helbrute from Dark Vengeance, it looks like a reworking of the AOBR Warboss with an attack Squig
New Pain Boy with a kind of Narthecium cybork hand.
Flash Gitz (They look particularly awesome, very much like Freebootaz with loads of variation in the kit).
Big Gunz. Total redesign.

And that was the happy end to the horror-story over in the 7th ed thread. Thank you Kroot, and good night everyone, with this awesome wishlis I can go to sleep quite well now.

 Kroothawk wrote:
The new mid size stompa thing looks like a pregnant Deff Dread. Comes with various weapon mountings, including what looks like a KFF.

Could be good. If it's a good model, I'll buy one to go with my stompas, dreds and kans. If it's a bad model with good rules, it's time for scratchbuilding.

New Gretchin models, including a grot oiler.

Directly contradicts what I was told by my source a couple of years ago, but I hope it's true. I like the 'civilian' grots.

New mega nobs, not plastic versions of the existing.
Big Mek in mega armour with some interesting KFF like add ons.
Big Mek in Mega Armour with shoulder mounted weapons, maybe SAG but doesn't look like it.

Presumably these are all made from the same kit? Or at the very least have interchangeable parts.

Warboss is similar to the remodelling of the Helbrute from Dark Vengeance, it looks like a reworking of the AOBR Warboss with an attack Squig

Since a foot warboss without mega armour is the one that nobody wants, of course that's the build we get. Can't really see it being a big seller unless it's easy to convert to a biker boss or comes with some exciting new wargear.

New Pain Boy with a kind of Narthecium cybork hand.

OK, that could be cool. Presumably he's a blister-pack plastic kit. Hopefully means that painboys will be independent characters.

Flash Gitz (They look particularly awesome, very much like Freebootaz with loads of variation in the kit).

Well, I've almost finished painting my Badrukk. Hopefully the rules will make them usable.

Big Gunz. Total redesign.

If the rules for artillery stay as good as they are now and we can take loads of heavy support options with the new 'unbound' army list, I can see these being very popular.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Here a set of rumours from a source that prefers to stay anonymous:

The new mid size stompa thing looks like a pregnant Deff Dread. Comes with various weapon mountings, including what looks like a KFF.
New Gretchin models, including a grot oiler.
New mega nobs, not plastic versions of the existing.
Big Mek in mega armour with some interesting KFF like add ons.
Big Mek in Mega Armour with shoulder mounted weapons, maybe SAG but doesn't look like it.
Warboss is similar to the remodelling of the Helbrute from Dark Vengeance, it looks like a reworking of the AOBR Warboss with an attack Squig
New Pain Boy with a kind of Narthecium cybork hand.
Flash Gitz (They look particularly awesome, very much like Freebootaz with loads of variation in the kit).
Big Gunz. Total redesign.

Did all the wishlisting pay off? Sounds like all that triple-kit boyz thing didn't work out, which is good IMO. Sure Tankbustas need a redesign but they're easy enough to kitbash.

What do you guys think about the major 7th edition White Dwarf leak that entails the Psychic Phase and the totally open force org. chart, and how this could affect Orks?

 Commander_Farsight wrote:
What do you guys think about the major 7th edition White Dwarf leak that entails the Psychic Phase and the totally open force org. chart, and how this could affect Orks?

Possibly better Weirdboyz with the Psychic Phase, and it could possibly give a better Waaagh! Phase.
Open force chart = the Green Tide is BACK. IN. ACTION. Maybe.

 Deunstephe wrote:

 Commander_Farsight wrote:
What do you guys think about the major 7th edition White Dwarf leak that entails the Psychic Phase and the totally open force org. chart, and how this could affect Orks?

Possibly better Weirdboyz with the Psychic Phase, and it could possibly give a better Waaagh! Phase.
Open force chart = the Green Tide is BACK. IN. ACTION. Maybe.

Thats true. I would really like to see a defined competitive Ork list that is really a contender.

They need a kustomizable Warboss just like the SM captain kit.

 Commander_Farsight wrote:
What do you guys think about the major 7th edition White Dwarf leak that entails the Psychic Phase and the totally open force org. chart, and how this could affect Orks?

Unbound by FOC lists seem like a good deal for orks, especially if big guns and battlewagons are still really good. On the other hand, they allow even more tank / monstrous creature spam, which is going to be a huge problem for us to deal with unless we get some new weapons.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 pretre wrote:
So this is going under your track then?

Nope. Rumours make sense and sound reasonable, I think they are correct, I know the source but I personally can't guarantee anything. In this case, I am, as so often, just the messenger, not the source.

Sounds like the definition of a rumor monger to me.

 Dez wrote:

I think i may have said this before in this thread, but the current Ork book was the last book of 4th edition.

I thought that Daemons were the last book of 4th?

Brand new psychic phase and orks (presumably the first book) don't get a new weirdboy? That either means we are getting boned for the new psychic phase or this rumor is missing something.

Considering how this rumor is only spoiling models, it's likely coming from someone who works in modeling, packaging, designs box art, etc. There is no way that person could know about the rules as well.

So even if we don't get a new weirdboy model it might get rework ruleswise. Honestly, the model isn't that bad, unless the failcast is completely bent out of shape, like on mine.

"Big Mek in mega armour with some interesting KFF like add ons."
A Big Mek with mega-armour AND a KFF? Yes please.

Looking forward to new Flash Gitz models

@ Breotan - can you fix your avatar size please as its a pain the ass for forum formatting.

 Breotan wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:

 pretre wrote:
So this is going under your track then?

Nope. Rumours make sense and sound reasonable, I think they are correct, I know the source but I personally can't guarantee anything. In this case, I am, as so often, just the messenger, not the source.

Sounds like the definition of a rumor monger to me.

Yep, that goes under Kroot's track.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

Since a foot warboss without mega armour is the one that nobody wants, of course that's the build we get. Can't really see it being a big seller unless it's easy to convert to a biker boss or comes with some exciting new wargear.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 Commander_Farsight wrote:
What do you guys think about the major 7th edition White Dwarf leak that entails the Psychic Phase and the totally open force org. chart, and how this could affect Orks?

Unbound by FOC lists seem like a good deal for orks, especially if big guns and battlewagons are still really good. On the other hand, they allow even more tank / monstrous creature spam, which is going to be a huge problem for us to deal with unless we get some new weapons.

Cheap Warboss leading every unit, maybe?

The big mek model (kff and gun model) are no longer available through the website. Also the flashgitz. 'Ere we go!

Atsjoem wrote:
The big mek model (kff and gun model) are no longer available through the website. Also the flashgitz. 'Ere we go!

Neither are tank bustas, commandoz and a version of the boss (the one with the combishoota and PK). Dok is temporary out of stock it seems.

The flash git model has been gone for a week or two.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 Commander_Farsight wrote:
What do you guys think about the major 7th edition White Dwarf leak that entails the Psychic Phase and the totally open force org. chart, and how this could affect Orks?

Unbound by FOC lists seem like a good deal for orks, especially if big guns and battlewagons are still really good. On the other hand, they allow even more tank / monstrous creature spam, which is going to be a huge problem for us to deal with unless we get some new weapons.

I think it's going to be brilliant for us. If nothing else Orks can finally play one any force we want. Full Ork Komandoz force lead by grotsnik? No problem for dem sneaky gitz! Speed freaks without the boyz in trucks and with lots of buggies/tracks? No problem. Pimping Bad Moon list? No troops needed any more. Hopefully the ork Dex's is good but not over the top good. I don't want dex's jumpers giving ork players a bad name. Other than inappropriate shouting ork players are normally a good bunch.

 Squidbot wrote:
The flash git model has been gone for a week or two.

Yep and even flagged as "Availability: No Longer Available", as oppose to "out of stock" on the painboy.