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its Strength 8 in close combat? is that right?

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
5HP, Grot riggers for IWND, a KFF and some meks on the inside make it quite survivable, and 4 S10 attacks are nothing to laugh at. Still, I'm not sold on that thing quite yet. My Evil Sunz heart favors wheels and tracks over legs and pistons.

By the way, anyone else noticed the strange turret on that Battlewagon right of the Morkanaut?

I think that's just a normal turret from the BW box, it's usually on top of the big gun housing.

 SJM wrote:
its Strength 8 in close combat? is that right?

Str 10 Ap1 with the Klaw of Gork (or Mork)

Allot wrote:
It looks really nice. Just hope it isn't super overpriced. Would be nice to run it with some MANZ in it or some burnas.

It is super expensive, its around 100$+

110$ or 120$ if I'm not mistaken.

Now I'm sure the bloody Stompa is going to go up in price. but luckily I just bought one a month ago. just in time

 SJM wrote:
its Strength 8 in close combat? is that right?

If it gets a weapon destroyed on its claw then so is the case. But normally it is Str 10 from its claw.

I know the price is horrid I am at least the point price isn't as horrid.

I love Orks....I'm not looking forward to repainting an entire army of them but I'm excited about the new codex!

Allot wrote:

 SJM wrote:
its Strength 8 in close combat? is that right?

If it gets a weapon destroyed on its claw then so is the case. But normally it is Str 10 from its claw.

Ahhh right, thanks, Im not too good on those.... what you call them? errr...... RULES, that's it.

 Deunstephe wrote:

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
5HP, Grot riggers for IWND, a KFF and some meks on the inside make it quite survivable, and 4 S10 attacks are nothing to laugh at. Still, I'm not sold on that thing quite yet. My Evil Sunz heart favors wheels and tracks over legs and pistons.

By the way, anyone else noticed the strange turret on that Battlewagon right of the Morkanaut?

I think that's just a normal turret from the BW box, it's usually on top of the big gun housing.

Spoiler:

[img]http://i.imgur.com/5Y3mzgF.png[img]

Lol, true, it's just the way they were painted (so many tin bitz there) made them look a bit different. My bad.

damnit! this is all of the things my bad moon orkz want :( I might have to sell a kidney soonish

Might be good as a sturdy transport for burnas or tankbusters save them getting shot up, that is unless they get given a transport in this codex.

Edit still no sign of the buggies and tracks :(

 SJM wrote:
wonder what that random ork boy is doing standing on top of it

He's not standing

He can see the slaughter better from up there.

Tank commander.

Ok... The Morkanaut looks infinitely better.

As for the rules regarding the Gorkanaut i think they are just about right. My guess is that it will be around 300 pts. and im deffo gonna field one.
Scratchbuilding it will be a treat too can´t wait!

I certainly see a million kitbash opportunities with that model. I may not like everything about it, but the kustomization options look endless.

I think it'll be less than 300, more likely 200 like the Riptide.

Well, the new angles look a bit better but I'm disappointed that the alternative build is so very similar to the first one. I was hoping for a seriously different look.

Rules seem pretty weak. It's basically a bigger dread with a tiny transport capacity. If it's under 150 points base, it will be pretty good. Otherwise I'd rather have multiple smaller walkers or a battlewagon or just go for a stompa, which carries more guys, has firepoints, moves faster, is a lot tougher, is easier to repair, ignores most damage results and has a much better main gun. You need four or five of these things to start competing with a stompa.

Also concerned that mekboys are going to get nerfed hard. 20 points for IWND makes no sense if you can still get a 4+ repair roll which not only does hull points but weapon destroyed and immobilized results for 15 points.

Mega Armour seems be very similar to the existing designs, which is a bad thing. Shouldn't be too hard to bling them up though. Just hope that they are somewhat reasonably priced... not really expecting it though, given the price of the walker.

EDIT: I note that one of the upgrade options in 'extra armour' rather than 'armour plates'. This suggests that the ork vehicle upgrades which were very similar to generic ones will be simply the generic ones with a reference to the main rulebook, so reinforced rams will probably be replaced with dozer blades as well.

So do you have to stand it still to fire all those guns? Making the transport capability wasted. Or is my knowledge on the rules very dated.

Am I the only one who doesn't expect a competitive codex? For some reason, I'm expecting to have basically the same power mis-matches in the codex as we had before, along with a lot of random charts that make us middle of the pack army again.
I'm not even mad because I've not been a competitive army for the entire time I've played. Though I know that's no comfort to those who'd like to be able to tourney with their orks and have a chance.

I expect pretty much a re-hash of what we have now, just updated with new rules. Maybe some new options and a couple new units, but that's about it. Orks were always the comic relief of 40k - I expect they'll remain so.

A guy I know who claims to know people at GW (Hmm... ok, go on....) reckons Orks are going to be competitive.
I am MASSIVELY skeptical.
As long as we don't suck I don't care, as I am not even slightly competitive in 40K, I'm that guy that laughs as you table him (as long as it's not done in some boring, Taudar/Death Star/Cheese manner).

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Big Mek, Mega Armour and KFF is a auto buy for me... a Bad Moon Big Mek looking down at his Death Skull counterpart with a big broad grin, tapping his shiny new armour, oh yes.

Until the Deathskull steals the armor out from under him that is..

 crazyfoxdemon wrote:

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Big Mek, Mega Armour and KFF is a auto buy for me... a Bad Moon Big Mek looking down at his Death Skull counterpart with a big broad grin, tapping his shiny new armour, oh yes.

Until the Deathskull steals the armor out from under him that is..

Have an exalt, for the mental image of the Bad Moons grin fading as he notices most of his armour is gone.

 Squidbot wrote:
A guy I know who claims to know people at GW (Hmm... ok, go on....) reckons Orks are going to be competitive.
I am MASSIVELY skeptical.
As long as we don't suck I don't care, as I am not even slightly competitive in 40K, I'm that guy that laughs as you table him (as long as it's not done in some boring, Taudar/Death Star/Cheese manner).

It's not the first time I've heard this too, I'm preparing for staying where we are competitive wise, that way I can't be dissapointed.

There's models I've never used that I'm keen on using, Meganobs (couldn't justify the price), Flash gits (couldn't justify the points).

Looking forward to the new release, good or bad!

 SJM wrote:
So do you have to stand it still to fire all those guns? Making the transport capability wasted. Or is my knowledge on the rules very dated.

'A Walker that moved can still fire all of its weapons in the subsequent Shooting phase.'

I wasn't expecting a top-tier codex, but I do like to have a real chance of winning. Something along the same level as the Astra Militarum or the Space Marines would be good; several viable competitive builds, but nothing obviously broken.

More than anything, I was hoping for something new which would allow different tactics to become viable and get rid of the huge vulnerabilities to heavy armour, big monsters and super-powered characters which orks have. This gorka/morka-naut seems just too similar to what we already have; lots of anti-infantry shots, fairly tough but still easily stopped by melta, only capable of dealing with heavy targets in close combat, too slow to really engage mobile enemy units. A battlewagon with a couple of killa kans or a dread lurking behind it would do pretty much everything it does, but better. The only hope for this thing is that it will be priced competitively, but I really doubt it. GW aren't going to charge £65 for a 150-point model.

I'll probably get one for completeness sake, because I buy pretty much every ork model they release, but at the moment I'm a lot more excited about the cool stuff third-party companies are doing for orks. The kromlech quad-gun is way more tempting than anything GW are showing.

It has no firing points, that's what saddens me. Also I am glad I have just ordered some mecha orcs from kromlech as a stand-in for my meganobz. They look like a meager version of thrakka.

But I hope the pointcost of this beast will be low 200 at most, otherwise it's not worth it I reckon.
I play Orks to win and Orks always win, so the new codex wont change that . Loosing is just a delayed win and more time to waaagh ones more.

I love the current Brian Nelson MANZ, that and Killa Kanz were some of the first models I bought. Looking forward to collecting another 50 MANZ

I love the these new models. But I'm afraid that I may have to buy a Gorkanaught and a Morkanaught. I'm going to have no money for food after these come out.

 Dez wrote:
I love the current Brian Nelson MANZ, that and Killa Kanz were some of the first models I bought. Looking forward to collecting another 50 MANZ

I'm just looking forward to being able to afford a squad of MANZ. The old ones were prohibitively expensive in my case.