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We need some equivalent of Drop Pod, and this 'Orkanaut could have been great for that. I would not like something too copied/pasted but a little ork-ish madness would be great.
Some sort of Katapult?

I find it interesting that in WD, Andy Clark emphasizes so much the Oddboyz and talk about tellyporta ...
Maybe something in the rules that we still have to discover?

 Perfect Organism wrote:

44Ronin wrote:Having the ability to penetrate AV14 is what is desperately needed. The ability to damage the vehicle on the chart e.g, remove weapons, immobilise, etc.,

Gaining a buff of +16% to glance vehicles and +16% to penetrate, as well as the ability to penetrate AV14 on sixes is better than assault 2.

Have you read the new Tank Hunters rule? They don't get +1 to armour penetration rolls anymore. I don't think that's been the case since 5th edition.

koolaid64 wrote:So here is my question about the Gorkanaut/Morkanaut. If this thing is locked in combat and the guys inside decide to get out are they then locked into that combat? Kind of hard not to be really.

Pretty sure you can't disembark into contact with enemy models.

I'm talking about having something similar to the original tankbustas rule

3rd ed codex was pre- USR.


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nflagey wrote:


I find it interesting that in WD, Andy Clark emphasizes so much the Oddboyz and talk about tellyporta ...
Maybe something in the rules that we still have to discover?

Bring on da brewboyz

 koolaid64 wrote:
Well that's just not orky at all

- Boss
- Wat
- I can 'ear dem fight without us, can we go out!?
- No
- But Boss da Morkanaut is getting the best ones, we'll have nothing left!?
- I said we wait, I want to make sure there is room to step out.
- but Boss... this will be over before we can swing a choppa
- Look I think it's clear, let's open the door now.... lads where you going?
- But... krumping of course!
- No, you lads put those choppas back on your belt and you show me some dakka.
- Oh not again!
- You know we NEVER charge after coming out of a morkanaut, it's not a trukk lad, these things have to be done the right way, do as I do
Nob shoots his slugga and misses. The boys raise their sluggas and halfheartedly press the trigger missing completely.
- Good lads... now we wait.

Murrdox wrote:

 matphat wrote:
I'm very curious about the kustomizing options we might have to get that thing in a better pose. I'd much rather have it looking stompy instead of waddly.

Or just stick Battlewagon treads on the bottom. There's a lot I could see happening with this guy.

That would fundamentally make it an Ork Skulldozer.



I'm not sure if I like the model or not yet. All the pictures I have seen leave me ambiguous about it. I need to see the 360 view. I might just scratchbuild something if I don't like it, and while it will be the same dimensions as this, it will not be a humanoid with tank bottom - I'd go all tank or all walker.

Greyhound wrote:

- Boss
- Wat
- I can 'ear dem fight without us, can we go out!?
- No
- But Boss da Morkanaut is getting the best ones, we'll have nothing left!?
- I said we wait, I want to make sure there is room to step out.
- but Boss... this will be over before we can swing a choppa
- Look I think it's clear, let's open the door now.... lads where you going?
- But... krumping of course!
- No, you lads put those choppas back on your belt and you show me some dakka.
- Oh not again!
- You know we NEVER charge after coming out of a morkanaut, it's not a trukk lad, these things have to be done the right way, do as I do
Nob shoots his slugga and misses. The boys raise their sluggas and halfheartedly press the trigger missing completely.
- Good lads... now we wait.

I think I just broke the exalt button.

I'm thinking the G/MOrkanaut traps the orks inside will fighting CC to keep the glory for itself

IF it could unload the Orks straight into assault by assaulting then THAT would solve the disembark issue and be pretty freaken awesome from rules and fluff perspective

@Ronin: I didn't say ANYTHING about additional range. At all. I don't think anyone did.

I've seen a few comments here about the cost (points) of the model, but I'm wondering if anyone actually did some math?

A Deff Dread is 75
+ 15 (for an extra CCW so it gets the same number of A)
+ 15 (KMB)
+ 40 (2 TL big shoota + 2 rokkit launcha)
+ 20 (at least, Kustom Mega Kannon is sort of an improved Zzap Gun)
Not sure how to price the Klaw or Gork/Mork

So, that's already 165 points.

But that Deff Dread only has 3 HP, is between 1 and 2 armour points lower, no transport, no option to include KFF (the Deff Dread would eat an HQ slot to get it)

So, looking at it this way, I'm not so sure it's such a bad deal, point wise...

I...I actually like that idea.

 Luke_Prowler wrote:
@Ronin: I didn't say ANYTHING about additional range. At all. I don't think anyone did.

Yes, but you did mention something along the lines of "half the range of krak missile......[is] not worth it"

I guess I'm just putting or rather aggressively pushing my idea forward that increasing range will totally alter the unit's role.


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 Madcat87 wrote:
I...I actually like that idea.

I think it would be really cool if the Orkanaut would disembark it's orks into combat after it successfully charges into a unit., thereby protecting the unit inside itself from overwatch.

With such a small unit., you'd need this protection.

nflagey wrote:
I've seen a few comments here about the cost (points) of the model, but I'm wondering if anyone actually did some math?

A Deff Dread is 75
+ 15 (for an extra CCW so it gets the same number of A)
[...]
So, looking at it this way, I'm not so sure it's such a bad deal, point wise...

and you are spot on. It is "correctly" priced.
When was the last time you build your ork list around the deffdread?
When was the last time you put a KMB on a deffdread?

The issue is not that it is overpriced, it is mostly that the Morkanaut does not know what it wants to be, and that it keeps stacking poorly effective solutions.

Slowest vehicles: Walker, check!
Worst weapon you can get if you have a low BS: a "Get hot" weapon, check!
Worst transport capacity for an army based on number: 6, check!

I'm going to give you an alternative version of stacking points which would use the same rules and make it effective:
A Deff Dread is 75
+ 15 (for an extra CCW so it gets the same number of A)
+ 25 for 5 big shoota
+ 20 (for 2 grot bomms as per IA8, Large blast TL AP3 rokkits - one use only)
+ 20 (for a supa skorcha as per IA8, an AP3 skorcha)
-------------
165 points

That's a Shooty dread with still a wide array of weapons, plenty of ork mix-bag of different guns, but it would really focus on the weapons with the biggest bang for buck.
in terms of point efficiency against MEQ (where orks are at the weakest) you can't really beat template AP3 and big shootas.

Greyhound wrote:

The issue is not that it is overpriced, it is mostly that the Morkanaut does not know what it wants to be, and that it keeps stacking poorly effective solutions.

I disagree.

It does know what it wants to be, and that is., a big tough S>O>B, line of sight blocking fire magnet

Greyhound wrote:

nflagey wrote:
I've seen a few comments here about the cost (points) of the model, but I'm wondering if anyone actually did some math?

A Deff Dread is 75
+ 15 (for an extra CCW so it gets the same number of A)
[...]
So, looking at it this way, I'm not so sure it's such a bad deal, point wise...

The issue is not that it is overpriced, it is mostly that the Morkanaut does not know what it wants to be, and that it keeps stacking poorly effective solutions.

I agree on that, I was just saying that point-wise, it's not a bad deal.
Of course, I would like a better option, but in terms of points, it's better than what we have now, don't you think?

I think I'll field a morkanaut with KFF & fixer meks inside just to annoy people who don't have the sense to ignore it .

nflagey wrote:
We need some equivalent of Drop Pod, and this 'Orkanaut could have been great for that. I would not like something too copied/pasted but a little ork-ish madness would be great.
Some sort of Katapult?

I find it interesting that in WD, Andy Clark emphasizes so much the Oddboyz and talk about tellyporta ...
Maybe something in the rules that we still have to discover?

Spleen rippa, Bubble chucka, Gobsmasha...... MMMM.....

Greyhound wrote:

 koolaid64 wrote:
Well that's just not orky at all

- Boss
- Wat
- I can 'ear dem fight without us, can we go out!?
- No
- But Boss da Morkanaut is getting the best ones, we'll have nothing left!?
- I said we wait, I want to make sure there is room to step out.
- but Boss... this will be over before we can swing a choppa
- Look I think it's clear, let's open the door now.... lads where you going?
- But... krumping of course!
- No, you lads put those choppas back on your belt and you show me some dakka.
- Oh not again!
- You know we NEVER charge after coming out of a morkanaut, it's not a trukk lad, these things have to be done the right way, do as I do
Nob shoots his slugga and misses. The boys raise their sluggas and halfheartedly press the trigger missing completely.
- Good lads... now we wait.

i vote we send this in to gw as a petition to think about what the heck they're doing.

I'll prob toy around with the idea of 2-3 mobs of boyz around 2 morkanaughts so that melta range is out of double tap armor pen.

The article is hilarious because the dev is saying "a unit of nobz can jump out and help the assault". I face palmed so hard, I think my hand went out through the back of my head.

Its assault power is laughable. A power claw warboss has more attacks and costs half as much. Then to bring it up to the bloated point cost of this idiotic monstrosity you're more durable with mega nobs, faster with a battlewagon, and have waaay more killing power.

Its shooting is a joke. Having played tau for the last few months I look at the weapons, and I look at the BS, and just laugh. Its downright pathetic.

And the joke becomes absolutely tragic when you consider knights are out there. This gigtanitic fat waddling fool will totter up to a faster, stronger, better Knight, get love tapped, and instantly explode. Oh boy, wasn't that fun.

This was a monstrously mishandled release. They're tyraniding us. We're just targets for some space marine player to shoot so he can forge his narrative.

Goresaw wrote:
The article is hilarious because the dev is saying "a unit of nobz can jump out and help the assault". I face palmed so hard, I think my hand went out through the back of my head.

Its assault power is laughable. A power claw warboss has more attacks and costs half as much. Then to bring it up to the bloated point cost of this idiotic monstrosity you're more durable with mega nobs, faster with a battlewagon, and have waaay more killing power.

Its shooting is a joke. Having played tau for the last few months I look at the weapons, and I look at the BS, and just laugh. Its downright pathetic.

And the joke becomes absolutely tragic when you consider knights are out there. This gigtanitic fat waddling fool will totter up to a faster, stronger, better Knight, get love tapped, and instantly explode. Oh boy, wasn't that fun.

This was a monstrously mishandled release. They're tyraniding us. We're just targets for some space marine player to shoot so he can forge his narrative.

That's okay, you can stay with Tau

Goresaw wrote:
The article is hilarious because the dev is saying "a unit of nobz can jump out and help the assault". I face palmed so hard, I think my hand went out through the back of my head.

Its assault power is laughable. A power claw warboss has more attacks and costs half as much. Then to bring it up to the bloated point cost of this idiotic monstrosity you're more durable with mega nobs, faster with a battlewagon, and have waaay more killing power.

Its shooting is a joke. Having played tau for the last few months I look at the weapons, and I look at the BS, and just laugh. Its downright pathetic.

And the joke becomes absolutely tragic when you consider knights are out there. This gigtanitic fat waddling fool will totter up to a faster, stronger, better Knight, get love tapped, and instantly explode. Oh boy, wasn't that fun.

This was a monstrously mishandled release. They're tyraniding us. We're just targets for some space marine player to shoot so he can forge his narrative.

Lol holy crap dude.

Goresaw wrote:


This was a monstrously mishandled release. They're tyraniding us. We're just targets for some space marine player to shoot so he can forge his narrative.

Yeah this dosent look like a good unit on paper, but to say the release is mishandled seems a bit shortsighted considering it hasnt happened yet.

Goresaw wrote:
They're Tyraniding us

I feel bad for the Bug players that this is a descriptive term now.

Sorry if I sound incredibly angry, but I've been frustrated with my first love, the orks, for a long time. They deserve better than this. I've thrown my boyz against hopeless odds over and over again, and just gotten shredded the new nasty armies that have been released since...well 4th ed. I just want orks to get their due, instead of being that 'funny army that the annoying guy who screams Waaagh! all the time plays". My favorite army should not have only a single person out of 128 people playing them at a tournament.

(and to be fair to the bugs, I think 6.5 is much kinder to them, thanks to the changes to force org and the buffs to shooting FMC's).

Goresaw wrote:
Sorry if I sound incredibly angry, but I've been frustrated with my first love, the orks, for a long time. They deserve better than this. I've thrown my boyz against hopeless odds over and over again, and just gotten shredded the new nasty armies that have been released since...well 4th ed. I just want orks to get their due, instead of being that 'funny army that the annoying guy who screams Waaagh! all the time plays". My favorite army should not have only a single person out of 128 people playing them at a tournament.

(and to be fair to the bugs, I think 6.5 is much kinder to them, thanks to the changes to force org and the buffs to shooting FMC's).

Just be patient and wait until we see what our codex looks like , This is really only one unit and we don't have all the information on it just yet.

We all love orks here, your passion is felt

Focus on the positive:

- Great sprue to build plenty or Ork stuffs, the rokkits will always find a use on a buggy or another vehicle
- There must be 75% of the components to build a mega/meka dread from IA8
- We don't have to field it, it's not like it's the only kit available to tackle specific threat.

Just remember people, GW's new units are all over the power spectrum. If the GorkaMorkatron is our Mutilator, we could very well have a Heldrake too.


...or they could just increase the point cost of Meganobs, leave Flashgits unchanged, and put out bizarre FAQs concerning our Weirdboy.

 Toburk wrote:

...or they could just increase the point cost of Meganobs, leave Flashgits unchanged, and put out bizarre FAQs concerning our Weirdboy.

"Don't cry, you know GW ALWAYS writes broken new units into a codex to sell kits!"

Ermahgerd! Erts a WEEEEERRRRRRRGGGGHHHH

The change to making the KFF a 5++ on a per model basis also worries me. The only other rule that works like that is from the DA codex, and it doesn't work when embarked on a transport. I feel that giving us the silly, broken, shrouded buff venomthropes have would have been preferable.

 Perfect Organism wrote:
A single small blast and a BS 2 shot on something approaching landraider cost isn't what I would call decent ranged AP 2. The SAG and Zzapp guns seem like better options.

It probably is more survivable than a battlewagon. It also costs a lot more than a battlewagon. At best you would want one of those things to act as a flank screen to protect your battlewagons. It might just be wide enough to do that.

Not sure how these things have 'better weaponry' than land raiders. I'd much rather have twin-linked lascannons or assault cannons plus multi-meltas.

Anyone suggesting that the zzapp gun is better than anything ever obviously has no idea about statistics

Also, "don't mix speeds" still applies to orks, no matter what happens to the codex. These things and battlewagons will be mutually exclusive strategies.