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 Billagio wrote:
Do we have a firm date for the codex? I thought I remember seeing somewhere June 7th.

7th is for the Gork/Morkanaut (Pre order from the 31st). So I imagine the Codex will be announced on the 31st too? That was the date on the teaser video, I believe?

Damn I was really hoping for the codex to come out next week :/

Well, unless that teaser was the announcement, I doubt it, but hey, it's GW, right?

 Squidbot wrote:
Well, unless that teaser was the announcement, I doubt it, but hey, it's GW, right?

Can you describe the painboy model you saw in more detail?

Is it possible that it is a painboss\big dok? He'd be about the same size as a nob or big mek, and could the cybork hand potentially be a power klaw?


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And for that matter, did the warboss look like it was a monopose model or from a "build-a-boss" kit?

I have some predictions of my own based on context clues that we have received via the WD leaks. The WAAAAGH special rule is going to be completely revamped. No more crappy "Confers fleet of foot". However, WAAAAGH will have to be earned by doing orky things like driving fast in a trukk or on a bike, shooting a lot of dakka at stuff, or krumpin some boyz in cc. These were all hinted at in the WD. This is what people keep talking about as Weird Tokens. They are not Weird Tokens they are waaagh tokens. They will probably be spendable by alowing the ork mob with them to do some extra orky things like fire more dakka! Think about the Dakka Jet for example. It currently has the waaaaagh plane special rule. Well what if that rule was just one of three that could be used by orks with waaagh tokens. EX: your dakka jet shoots down an enemy flyer. It gains 1 waaaagh token. in it's next turn it may now spend that token and shoot twice as many shots! This would be great for things like lootas, shootas, dakka jets, tank bustas ect. Another one may be if a unit moves fast. Like if a group of boyz in a trukk moves flat out it gets a waaaagh token. In the next phase perhaps the boyz can move an extra 6in in the next turn with no penalty. lastly boyz krumpin in cc get a waaaagh token. in the next turn they can spend that token and gain +1 str.

I really don't know this is just a wild guess or wishlist if you will but it sure would make orks a lot more fun to play.

Not a bad hypothesis!

That would be pretty cool if they managed to make it work well.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Fluffwise, the Weirdboyz should be immune to perils, immune to daemon possession and total sh*tkickin powerhouses in the psychic phase, no mukkin abawt, just mind-nukes to crack open tanks and smack opponent psykers right up.

The only real threat to a weirdboy (not a full warp'ead) should be being around too many boyz and overloading with power.

rothrich wrote:
I have some predictions of my own based on context clues that we have received via the WD leaks. The WAAAAGH special rule is going to be completely revamped. No more crappy "Confers fleet of foot". However, WAAAAGH will have to be earned by doing orky things like driving fast in a trukk or on a bike, shooting a lot of dakka at stuff, or krumpin some boyz in cc. These were all hinted at in the WD. This is what people keep talking about as Weird Tokens. They are not Weird Tokens they are waaagh tokens. They will probably be spendable by alowing the ork mob with them to do some extra orky things like fire more dakka! Think about the Dakka Jet for example. It currently has the waaaaagh plane special rule. Well what if that rule was just one of three that could be used by orks with waaagh tokens. EX: your dakka jet shoots down an enemy flyer. It gains 1 waaaagh token. in it's next turn it may now spend that token and shoot twice as many shots! This would be great for things like lootas, shootas, dakka jets, tank bustas ect. Another one may be if a unit moves fast. Like if a group of boyz in a trukk moves flat out it gets a waaaagh token. In the next phase perhaps the boyz can move an extra 6in in the next turn with no penalty. lastly boyz krumpin in cc get a waaaagh token. in the next turn they can spend that token and gain +1 str.

I really don't know this is just a wild guess or wishlist if you will but it sure would make orks a lot more fun to play.

I wouldn't be surprised either if the power of Weirdboyz was affected by the number of units you have on your table. Might be more fun to play actually, and would be pretty good for narrative games. You could start with a bunch of boyz, generate Waaagh!, and then use it to blast your opponents to bits through the power of Gork an' Mork! A little bit of story, perhaps...

"...Th' dakka thunderd 'round me an me boyz, wif 'umies gettin' blasted off der feet by da big shootaz we'ze was sportin', an' all ya could 'ear were dakka and da call o' Warboss Bogblitz, screamin' wif da 'eart uf Gork an' Mork demselves! We wuz all ry-eld up and yellin' ar 'eads off! Den da real show started, 'cuz all dem excited boyz iz wot make dem Weirdboyz all glowy-like. Den' dey star'ed blastin' all dem humies ta zog, better dan all th' dakka bafore! Ya coul' see fire in der eyez, loightnin' spewin' from der moufs, an' dey all had dem grotz yellin' and screamin'! O' course, we 'ad a few 'eadbooms 'ere an dere, but it wuz real pretty ter see dem firewurkz, hur hur!"

Was hoping we would see more of the MANz by now!

I am not convinced that the manz in the wd pic are not the old manz with a head switch...

rothrich wrote:
I am not convinced that the manz in the wd pic are not the old manz with a head switch...

The banners above their head looked pretty fancy to me.

rothrich wrote:
I am not convinced that the manz in the wd pic are not the old manz with a head switch...

At least one of the heads seems to be entirely new.

They have bosspoles, which don't look like any existing bits I recognise.

The jaw plates seem to be taller than the current MANs.

The combi-skorcha on the left doesn't seem at all similar to existing kombi-skorchas.

Rubs wrote:
The banners above their head looked pretty fancy to me.

I'm pretty sure the "bosspoles", heads, and klaws, are all different. The torso of the one on the far left looks new as well. Furthermore, the one on the far right has a twin-linked shoota, and that model hasn't been available for years.


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The middle one also has a new Kombi-rokkit and they seem to have chains hanging between their legs like the plastic killa kans.

Hope they loser the cost on the MANZ or give them T5. They cost a lot for a leadership 7 model.

Yeah I guess y'all are right they do look different than the current mega nobz. It would just be nice if they stared taking the old stuff down so new stuff could be hinted at... lets hope whoever has been posting wd pics on friday comes through tomorrow..

Goresaw wrote:
Hope they loser the cost on the MANZ or give them T5. They cost a lot for a leadership 7 model.

Im hoping they are also cheap too. The way GW makes money is to release new models and to make the new rules for those models great. I personally don't think we've seen everything about the gorkanaught just yet.

The rumor so far is 60 bucks for 3 manz.... box o' three seems likely seeing as how there are only three in the picture here...

rothrich wrote:
The rumor so far is 60 bucks for 3 manz.... box o' three seems likely seeing as how there are only three in the picture here...

I'd actually be okay with that pricing. All those extra bits will be nice!

Both Meks are now unavailable on the US site.

60 bucks for 3 MANZ seems reasonable, and WAY better than 80 for 3 centurions. There's going to be tons of leftover bitz in that box, and I think it might be possible with some plasticard and some old Nobs to turn that 3 man box into 6. The amount of bitz in any Ork kit is phenomenal, and if you love to convert you can practically find a bit to save from every single character Ork kit there is.

not quite as reasonable as 5 da terminators for 60 which to be fair is a much more reasonable comparison than centurions...

From what little I've seen they look like new models to me.

I hope our manz are nothing like terminators and make them look tiny next to them.

I also would love to see T5 on the MAN primarily because the Warboss's extra Toughness has no one to join to share his high toughness.

I also look at all the T4 guys out there and a NOB with heavy plating sounds like he could do with an upgrade. They don't have the 5++ termies have, it would be a nice differentiation.

Also a boy's dream come true would be to be able to kit our boys' nobs with a mega armour. What an amazing bullet catcher at the front of a mob... talk about leading the boys to battle.

I really, really doubt that we're going to get mega-armoured boy's mob leaders, but it would be pretty fantastic if we did. Would make power klaws in boy's mobs actually practical again.

Slow and purposeful isn't so great for foot slogging.

Goresaw wrote:
Slow and purposeful isn't so great for foot slogging.

if you footslogg all the way yes, you are correct, but if you use battlewagons, or trukks, you can actually jump start your turn1:

Turn1: move 6", disembark 6", that puts you roughly just before the median line,
Turn2: move 6" (you are now somwhere ~ 7-10" from their deployment line) you should be able to start shooting.

With the extra resilience of a 2+ nob at the front and a BW which is still speeding nearby it becomes a viable tactic in my book
(do I shoot that deffrolla which is now empty or do i try do take down that 2+ nob to crack open the boys)

anyway i agree it is not likely but with the new rules you can easily have 2 HQ for 2 troops, so technically should be able to squeeze an Mega armour bullet proof front

I don't think are all about crumping stuff in melee. They like the dakka and explosions just as much.

I love shoota boyz. Non ork players see BS2 and laugh, until they are at the end of 61 shots from one unit.

I hope they get another ranged anti - tank gun, cause I love seeing that big boom from my big meks kustom mega burna blasta.

DAKKA DAKKA FUR EVA !!

So the White Dwarf with the new Orky goodness drops this Friday ?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around it being a weekly publication.

It was devoid of substance when it was a monthly publication.

wonder if med squigs will return to mega armour?

So if rumor hold true and we get bomb squig units and we "fire" them in the shooting phase.....

I got this great image of them running out of a Morkanaught lol

The vision of the front plate dropping and six angry explosive covered squig running out. Oh the glory.

 Dakkafang Dreggrim wrote:
So if rumor hold true and we get bomb squig units and we "fire" them in the shooting phase.....

I got this great image of them running out of a Morkanaught lol

The vision of the front plate dropping and six angry explosive covered squig running out. Oh the glory.

I imagine that like the scene from Return of the King when the armored trolls burst through the gates on Minas Tirith. Mighty spacemarines are expecting the worst for a warboss and a bunch of heavily armed MANz to come out but instead its 6 little squigs.

 adamsouza wrote:
So the White Dwarf with the new Orky goodness drops this Friday ?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around it being a weekly publication.

It was devoid of substance when it was a monthly publication.

Yes, but the 31 May edition only has the Gorka/morkanaut release, plus a few teasers like the apparent new meganobz in one pic. Nothing to confirm there even will be a new ork codex :(

Hmm, another thought re those meganobz - they _might_ just be the simplified meganobz from the rumoured new starter box, rather than the new meganobz kit. Or not...