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Via this weeks WD, it looks like the Gorka/Morkanaughts' legs can be posed in any number of positions...they said they did it for 'advanced modelers'. Plus, the model in Goff colors looks really nice.

I get where you guys are coming from, but the Big Gunz are absolutely not a dual kit with buggies. The two would share nothing except 2 wheels and the front bumper. The only way it would make sense would be if you could make 1 buggy or 2 Big Guns from one box, but if this were the case, there would be 2 versions of the front bumper, at least.

 SJM wrote:
The more I see of them the more they look like someone has converted them using the Ork plastic buggy.

So maybe its a dual kit, we will know soon enough I guess

Ork kits tend to use elements from other kits. For example, the Stompa has an engine from the old buggy kit and an old-style killa kan body on it. The Bomma used parts which we eventually saw on the Taurox. It's not really much of an indication of anything other than the studio's style for orks.

The yellow really does look bad. There's really something off with the art direction at GW the past year or two (both for painting and for model design). The majority of new kits look rushed, ill-conceived, "squashed" and badly proportioned. In other words like giant pre-school toys.

And then the 'Eavy Metal guys paint them like pre-school toys. Very bright, often primary colors, extremely clean and nearly "flat" with no detail or texture. If they want to snag more 10 year olds, I guess this is one way to do it, but in my opinion like 70% of new releases since the start of 6th have looked absolutely TERRIBLE coming out of the studio

They really only look good once more talented converters and painters get their hands on them. That is, if the model in question is salvageable at all.

What gives?

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
I'm thinking the big gunz are combo kits for buggies.

I also think that model in front of them is a new painboy, it's a new kit as I'd initially thought it was a nob, but the legs are off in size and the left arm weaponry is also new looking.

I think he looks a lot like a mek. He got wrenches damnit, but then you never know about orks. Maybe even a painboy/mek combo kit 0.0, nah that won't probably happen.

 Bonde wrote:
It does look like buggies could share a kit with the new artillery pieces, since they are rather big, have wheels and lots of armour plates. GW love doing their new plastic kits as dual kits, so I would be rather shocked if these guys can't be built as buggies.

BTW I absolutely love those Flash Gits. I don't care that much about their rules, or the price for that matter. Those sculpts look amazing. This will probably be the first thing that I purchase from GW in almost a year.

Look. At. All. That. DAKKA!

I highly doubt that GW will ever have 3 types of Big gunz + buggies with at-least 3 types of different weapons in one box set.

The reason they might look like buggies or tyres being as big as truck could be that these Gunz can be attached to the rear end of other vehicles e.g buggies , trucks. hence in order to be on same hight and to be able to do this they are that big.

If you have a truck kit or a Truck model, you will see that it has a spot for towing something at the back. You can still see it on some truck models if one does not put the canopy on top of the frame.

If the long awaited Buggy kit is going to be released as-well then expect both of them to be enter-linked.

Did they get rid of Kannons? I see a zzap, some unkown, and a lobba (I think).

gobskrag 'eadbasha wrote:
Did they get rid of Kannons? I see a zzap, some unkown, and a lobba (I think).

Best guess is these are 3 new weapons, kinda like the Eldar have two different sets of hover artillery.

I'm assuming the big guns will be like eldar support platforms. One kit, several guns to choose from, nothing more. Enjoying non dual kits


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Ninja!!

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I get where you guys are coming from, but the Big Gunz are absolutely not a dual kit with buggies. The two would share nothing except 2 wheels and the front bumper. The only way it would make sense would be if you could make 1 buggy or 2 Big Guns from one box, but if this were the case, there would be 2 versions of the front bumper, at least.

Imagine, if ye will, a basic 2-wheel chassis, just like the current buggy has.

Now, this chassis would have a central column, with two pegholes, one in the centre, one towards the back.

If you're building the gun, the rear axle is used as a handle to lift and push the machine forward (it looks like from the picture these would have clawed "feet" attachments to prevent the gun rolling backwards). The middle peghole in the central column is used to place the big gun weapon.

If you're building the buggy, both rear and front axles have the wheels attached. The peghole towards the back is used to place the TL-rokkit launcha/TL big shoota.

Obviously if you leave out the big gun it makes room for the driver, and the bitz used for the grot gunner seat could be repurposed for the ork gunner instead.

I don't know, maybe I'm crazy, but the two share a very similar silhouette. Also, re: the front bumper, it looks like all three have the same front bumper, just that two of them have been painted with scratched-up edges and one has not.

Do we have a guess when the codex will release?

To be honest I thought I was done with 40k, losing interest during 6th and not much changes in favor of assault in 7th but those Orks sucked me right back in. Now I really want to do a freeboota army, oh the pain on my wallet.

gobskrag 'eadbasha wrote:
Did they get rid of Kannons? I see a zzap, some unkown, and a lobba (I think).

Hmm. I see three energy guns, which is a bit weird. Maybe the Lobbaz and Kannons are out altogether, just three versions of the same Zzap gun?

Balor wrote:
Do we have a guess when the codex will release?

To be honest I thought I was done with 40k, losing interest during 6th and not much changes in favor of assault in 7th but those Orks sucked me right back in. Now I really want to do a freeboota army, oh the pain on my wallet.

Two weeks, that is the commonly thought and semi confirmed date. Via squigbot on a few occasions.

And I feel your pain, just spent £20 on bits (mostly just guns) in order to convert me up some awesome flash gits! im sure il buy an actual box too, but I have so many AOBR nobs that have been hacked up kicking about. There all crying and begging me to make them flash gits.

I think I've been a little misunderstood. These are clearly new models, not conversions. They just have the look of a conversion about them . Yes, the buggy Dr.Delorean has posted, seems very similar to the new Big Gunz, so it is possible it is a dual kit.

So looks like Orks don't get FNP army wide thanks to the flash gitz leak.:(

mrfantastical wrote:
So looks like Orks don't get FNP army wide thanks to the flash gitz leak.:(

I have to wonder whether 'Ere We Go is army wide, though, doesn't seem to fit with Flash Gitz exclusively at all

 lord_blackfang wrote:

gobskrag 'eadbasha wrote:
Did they get rid of Kannons? I see a zzap, some unkown, and a lobba (I think).

Best guess is these are 3 new weapons, kinda like the Eldar have two different sets of hover artillery.

Yeah, but when I look at the one on the right I can't help but think of this lobba from forgeworld:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/AlternativeFW/xlarge/Lobba2.jpg

Wooo now we are talking. Flashgitz, now those are some good model. Favorited models ever ... Yes. Could spend all day looking at that ... and Assault 3 now! Two (or more) boxes please.

Meganobz are a must, SAG a maybe (seen as I already have the old one and this one doesn't look that much better, more of he same really).

Big guns yes, in time. If they are a dual kit/use two to make buggies then absolutely. They do look really big compared with the current big guns don't know if I like that.


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The one on the right is most likely a catapult or trebuchet type design, it looks to me.


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Looking at the height of it the Meganob on the right it is very tall. Is that the rumoured mega armour Warboss, it maybe included in he meganobz?

Could the mek in front of the gunz be a bonus figure for buying a battery box set of 3 or more?

It'd be nice if the big gunz had different looks but different profiles akin to missile launchers having frag or krak. Just hope they're not with an av

 zachwho wrote:
i dont think that's a new sculpt on the SAG, looks more like they sculpted the energy tails on the existing one.

No, that is most DEFINITELY a new sculpt on the SAG.

First you've got the spinning balls. Then if you look very closely you can see the grot that is being pulled into the SAG is posed very differently from the current model. Then on top of that there is some kind of structure on top of the gun or on the opposite shoulder of the Mek. Definitely a new kit.

 Gargskull wrote:
Could the mek in front of the gunz be a bonus figure for buying a battery box set of 3 or more?

Bonus Figure? from GW? are you mad?.... take him away!!! Most likely you and buy one Gun for £25, or buy the super unit bundle deal, 3 for £75.

What the heck is the Big Gun on the far right in the picture? I can't identify it.

The weapon on the far left looks like a Shokk Attack Gun. The middle is clearly a Zzap Gun. The model on the far right LOOKS like some sort of electronic type of gun? But I have no idea what it would be.

Wonder if the guns do not so much share frames with buggies as a duel kit, but share CAD artwork?

Murrdox wrote:

 zachwho wrote:
i dont think that's a new sculpt on the SAG, looks more like they sculpted the energy tails on the existing one.

No, that is most DEFINITELY a new sculpt on the SAG.

First you've got the spinning balls. Then if you look very closely you can see the grot that is being pulled into the SAG is posed very differently from the current model. Then on top of that there is some kind of structure on top of the gun or on the opposite shoulder of the Mek. Definitely a new kit.

I just want to agree with this guy. Took a close look at the Shock Attack Gun and it is most certainly a different one.

Sure, it's in a similar pose (only so many ways to carry a gun like that..) But the weapon swirly details, the snotling / grot, some gubbins on the back, and even the Mek's face are all very different than what we have right now. It's got the same outline and all that jazz, but that's because it's supposed to be the same thing; just modeled differently.

It's okay. I've got two converted buggies, and another in the box I haven't built yet. I can do without a Buggy kit honestly. There's really nothing wrong with Buggies as they exist currently. They're a really cheap twin linked rokkit, and that's all they need to be.

I really hope they fixed some of our jets though, cause none of these models look like they have any anti-air capability. I don't even see a Big Gun that looks like it has a flakk gun for sky firing, which to me would have been a very obvious inclusion.

mrfantastical wrote:
So looks like Orks don't get FNP army wide thanks to the flash gitz leak.:(

hmm i wouldnt say that is definite, it could be rolled into a couple things. Mob rule, could be (all orks with mob rule gain 6+ FNP, units over 12 use the mob size as ldrship.) that way, grots would still miss out on FNP- which would make sense as there grots, Although not sure what warbosses would do. Perhaps even within the boss pole, all models with (or possibly around 6" of a boss pole) get FNP?

The other possibility is the pain boss provides it, which while that isn't as great as army wide, its not much different and a compromise id make.

On the otherhand, we cant see what wargear access the FG's have, it might possibly be like cybork was, and be a points upgrade per model, which if priced reasonably i guess is ok. still not as good as army wide though.

Murrdox wrote:
What the heck is the Big Gun on the far right in the picture? I can't identify it.

The weapon on the far left looks like a Shokk Attack Gun. The middle is clearly a Zzap Gun. The model on the far right LOOKS like some sort of electronic type of gun? But I have no idea what it would be.

Actually, looking at the old ork artwork from Freebooterz, they look a lot like a traktor kannon, a lifta-droppa and a bubble-chucker.

The centre looks like the old smasha gun, far right all bubble chukka, left side unsure.

 SJM wrote:

 Gargskull wrote:
Could the mek in front of the gunz be a bonus figure for buying a battery box set of 3 or more?

Bonus Figure? from GW? are you mad?.... take him away!!! Most likely you and buy one Gun for £25, or buy the super unit bundle deal, 3 for £75.

Poor choice of words then!
An excusive figure like the terminator captain coming in the space marine strike force ultra set.