Ork rumours - First post updated 20th June

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**A Town Called Malus**

PhillyT wrote:
A Town Called Malus wrote:
PhillyT wrote:
GW owes nothing to buyers concerning items not currently for sale.

The idea that GW should follow Privateer Press's style is a valid concept, but when GW sells exponentially more products at a far greater volume, you can't say they are the same.

If GW wants buyers then it should damn well consider it owing buyers something.

If they were much more open with their customers concerning future releases then people might buy more of their product.

Say someone with a limited budget wants both a Privateer Press model and a GW model which will cost the same and one model will take up their whole budget. They know PP are releasing the product on the 3rd but have no idea when GW are releasing their model. In fact there isn't any confirmation that the model is even being released or has been made. GW are going to release it on the 11th but haven't told anyone.

So our hypothetical hobbyist buys the Privateer Press model on the 3rd and then the day after GW announces the release of the product he wanted. But it's too late, he doesn't have the money for that product any more. GW lost a sale that month and the customer is left frustrated. With prior warning of the models release he could have budgeted more for this month by reducing his hobby budget in other months.

How far out GW choses to give its release schedule is entirely up to them. Privateer press and GW are not the same game, so a person buying a Privateer Press model isn't going to use it to play GW games, or visa versa. Everyone, at this point, should know full well that orks are coming this month. What more do you need?

So what Orks are coming this month then? What units? How any models in each box? Price of those boxes? You know, everything you need to know what fits in a budget?

**matphat**

A Town Called Malus wrote:
PhillyT wrote:
A Town Called Malus wrote:
PhillyT wrote:
GW owes nothing to buyers concerning items not currently for sale.

The idea that GW should follow Privateer Press's style is a valid concept, but when GW sells exponentially more products at a far greater volume, you can't say they are the same.

If GW wants buyers then it should damn well consider it owing buyers something.

If they were much more open with their customers concerning future releases then people might buy more of their product.

Say someone with a limited budget wants both a Privateer Press model and a GW model which will cost the same and one model will take up their whole budget. They know PP are releasing the product on the 3rd but have no idea when GW are releasing their model. In fact there isn't any confirmation that the model is even being released or has been made. GW are going to release it on the 11th but haven't told anyone.

So our hypothetical hobbyist buys the Privateer Press model on the 3rd and then the day after GW announces the release of the product he wanted. But it's too late, he doesn't have the money for that product any more. GW lost a sale that month and the customer is left frustrated. With prior warning of the models release he could have budgeted more for this month by reducing his hobby budget in other months.

How far out GW choses to give its release schedule is entirely up to them. Privateer press and GW are not the same game, so a person buying a Privateer Press model isn't going to use it to play GW games, or visa versa. Everyone, at this point, should know full well that orks are coming this month. What more do you need?

So what Orks are coming this month then? What units? How any models in each box? Price of those boxes? You know, everything you need to know what fits in a budget?

I'd say the guy is just trollin'. Might need to be ignored.

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Spoiler:

I really like this painting series, but wow, do I hate the idea of doing a glaze after the base+wash+drybrush. Also, I don't think his Badmoon Yellow is nearly as bright as it is on the box. I much prefer basecoat the actual color I want + wash + highlight + highlight.

**Mr. Grey**

PhillyT wrote:

How far out GW choses to give its release schedule is entirely up to them. Privateer press and GW are not the same game, so a person buying a Privateer Press model isn't going to use it to play GW games, or visa versa. Everyone, at this point, should know full well that irks are coming this month. What more do you need?

It's entirely possible that a person would play multiple games from multiple companies - I play Khador, Circle Orboros, and orks. If my hobby budget for the month is $50, and I know Privateer Press is releasing a kit on the 5th, but Games Workshop might be releasing one on the 23rd... well, I might just go for the confirmed released over the "maybe".

**PhillyT**

Why is it trolling to say that a company has no obligation to give you more information about their release schedule than they feel appropriate?

There is nothing saying you need to buy models the day or month they come out. Who even has time to assemble and paint that many new models at a shot?

I get the frustration some people have, but there is no pleasing people on release schedules. If they gave info a month out, people would want two months. If three months they want six. Even worse would be the complaints at a delay or if they flip flop releases due to production issues. They may lose sales, but they may gain sales on models soon to be replaced. To me, that is a disingenuious for them to do that approach, but it is their business.

**ashikenshin**

PhillyT wrote:
Why is it trolling to say that a company has no obligation to give you more information about their release schedule than they feel appropriate?

There is nothing saying you need to buy models the day or month they come out. Who even has time to assemble and paint that many new models at a shot?

I get the frustration some people have, but there is no pleasing people on release schedules. If they gave info a month out, people would want two months. If three months they want six. Even worse would be the complaints at a delay or if they flip flop releases due to production issues. They may lose sales, but they may gain sales on models soon to be replaced. To me, that is a disingenuious for them to do that approach, but it is their business.

Haha I was going to say the same thing. I think I'm not going to be able to buy the Necron Triarch Stalker now since I didn't buy it the day it came out. Too bad for me, I don't care if it's on the store, i can't seem to be able to buy it for some reason lol

edit: Still, I can't wait to see what the leakers bring us, more pics of what's coming out

**ciaflayed1**

I'll agree that for us fun comes in many flavors.

For an ork, though, there is only one flavor - a good duffing.

Giving or taking. It doesn't matter.

And, for an ork thread, this seems to have far more mathematicians, over analysis and outright reservation and reluctance than any ork clan would ever allow.

Crunch Knuckle: "Dah right arm is a gatling gun made out of gatling guns. Dah leff one is Mork-or-maybe-Gork's Klaw. Dah Klaw is as thick and 'eavy as a kan, and you an' dah nobs can burst outta itz belly and start krumpin' 'eads. And its all yours, boss!"

KneeJerk dah Doubta: "I 'ad me odd boyz run dah numbas, and dey jus' aren't impressive. I filnk dere's jus' no room in my clan for a towering, lumbering embodimunt ov me god dat 'as dakka bolted all ova erry inch ov its outside and spillz me and a 'alf dozen boyz all ova dah enemy like a pinata party in a space marine's nightmare.

Nope. Got no room for one or two ov dose in dis clan.

[Clears throat]By the way, may I take this opportunity to I dispell another deplorable myth? I roundly reject the notion that orks are universally poor speakers."

Crunch Knuckle: "I toll you ya'd katch sumthin' from dem humies ifya went krumpin wivvout your gas mask. You've got dah worst case of ova-analytis I've eva seen. Groggle, fetch dah painboy and tell 'im to bring 'is brain saw. 'E'll fix dah boss rite proppa."

The orks you are going to field will spontaneously slap a few sheets of metal, engine and wheels together and immediately stake their lives on it without doubt or hesitation. It would be good for all of us to remember that beautiful little fact about the game's best fething race.

Take what you like, use it in your game and make it work for you. If not slap some new plans and scrap together and try again. Imagine how impotent the ork race would be if they were as afraid of failure and as full of unfounded reservations as we are.

OMG!! I'm ROFLMAO @ this!! You, good sir, summed it up perfectly!

**Nightlord1987**

If even half these rumors are true, i'll be a happy warboss. All I have to do now is pimp out some of the older rollerskate trukks and buggies with new vehicle bitz, add grot drivers, and start a mekanized waaagh.

I also have 2 metal Mega Armored ork bodies, that are looking at the bitz from the MANz box coming!

Im just hoping the dakkajet doesent get a price increase until I can pick up 2 of them... Damn, just jinxed it.

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Purely a wishlist suggestion, but wouldn't it be cool if after the Naugt gets wrecked the KFF is still active, so the Boyz can have their Inv bubble hiding around the wreckage? Seems orky to me, and would make it worth its points.

*crosses fingers*

**Red Corsair**

Duncan Rhodes doesn't paint interiors either

**Scarfy**

"nobz im naut"

"“It’s alwayz da same, be ‘em ‘Oomies or da Chaos ladz wiv da spikes. They’z busy defendin’ der nice little world when suddenly they’z realise da big old shadow of a ‘naut is bearing down on ‘em. Naturally they’z expect to be squished. So it’s a ‘orrible surprise when da boss ‘n’ da Nobz burst out da belly and hack ‘em to bitz.” - Beware ‘nauts bearing Nobz

This collection includes 1 Gorkanaut / Morkanaut, 5 Nobz and 1 Warboss with Attack Squig. "

The description sounds like the nautz muste be assault vehicles?

**nflagey**

Squidbot wrote:
Big picture, so adding spoiler:

Spoiler:

Inspecting the broken image gave me this:
http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/230x238/99020103019_NobzNaut01.jpg

Which is a broken link.

Click of PreOrder … then you get more info about that package:
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Nobz-im-naut
Nobz im ’naut
$152.25
1 Gorkanaut / Morkanaut ($105), 5 Nobz ($25) and 1 Warboss with Attack Squig ($22.25)

so, another package without money saved

**Brother Weasel**

nflagey wrote:

so, another package without money saved

I'd stop being surprised by that.

**boredbeard**

I've added these 'Nobz im 'naut' to preorder basket and I can't get my numbers right...

- 'Nobz im 'naut' are £95.50
- Gorkanaut is £65
- Nobz are £15.50

... Somebody have an idea what it may be? New Nob set (...for £30.50)?

Spoiler:

/ohh... - I posted this in the same time as Mister nflagey...

**Squidbot**

Redirect has changed since this morning.
Not a great package. When I read Warboss with attack squig I was hoping for the new one.

**Leerjawise**

nflagey wrote:
Squidbot wrote:
Big picture, so adding spoiler:

Spoiler:

Inspecting the broken image gave me this:
http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/230x238/99020103019_NobzNaut01.jpg

Which is a broken link.

Click of PreOrder … then you get more info about that package:
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Nobz-im-naut
Nobz im ’naut
$152.25
1 Gorkanaut / Morkanaut ($105), 5 Nobz ($25) and 1 Warboss with Attack Squig ($22.25)

so, another package without money saved

Is it common for GW to bundle plastic kits with a resin one?

**nflagey**

Not sure that someone mentioned it already, but the Codex is not on the website anymore
and the Big Mek with KFF is "No longer available"

in the UK, the Deffkoptas are not on the website anymore, and the only Mek listed is the Big Mek with Bosspole

**Squidbot**

**matphat**

All of this waiting is making me lose interest.

**Rubs**

I'm just waiting on anything...something, from the new WD.

It seems they've delayed shipments to my FLGS, which usually gets them on tuesday. Very odd.

**matphat**

Rubs wrote:
I'm just waiting on anything...something, from the new WD.

It seems they've delayed shipments to my FLGS, which usually gets them on tuesday. Very odd.

So, the new White Dwarf has technically shipped to stores?

**Squidbot**

matphat wrote:
All of this waiting is making me lose interest.

I'm not reading much into this lack of news. Probably just a printing delay or something.

**Rubs**

matphat wrote:
Rubs wrote:
I'm just waiting on anything...something, from the new WD.

It seems they've delayed shipments to my FLGS, which usually gets them on tuesday. Very odd.

So, the new White Dwarf has technically shipped to stores?

My store almost always gets theirs early. Last weeks' WD came on tuesday, nothing yet this week for the new WD.

**Murrdox**

matphat wrote:
All of this waiting is making me lose interest.

Yeah, I've totally lost interest. It's not like I'm camping out in this thread, refreshing it several times a day looking for updates or anything.

Nope. Not doing that.

**ciaflayed1**

Leerjawise wrote:
Mad_Max wrote:

It looks like the big guns would probably be to many bits for a single "normal"(boys size) sprue and they got to fill up the rest with something.
(the dwarf gyrocopter/gyrobomber, where you toss away half the bits, springs to mind)

Heresy! I can barely bring myself to throw away sprues

DON'T!! Put them in a meat grinder! It warps them into what looks like twisted girders. I use them for terrain & flocking my bases.

**matphat**

Murrdox wrote:
matphat wrote:
All of this waiting is making me lose interest.

Yeah, I've totally lost interest. It's not like I'm camping out in this thread, refreshing it several times a day looking for updates or anything.

Nope. Not doing that.

I have so little interest in fact, that I totally didn't notice that you said that.

**Davespil**

So, when is the new codex coming out? I tried looking through this thread but couldn't find the date.

**Leerjawise**

ciaflayed1 wrote:
Leerjawise wrote:
Mad_Max wrote:

It looks like the big guns would probably be to many bits for a single "normal"(boys size) sprue and they got to fill up the rest with something.
(the dwarf gyrocopter/gyrobomber, where you toss away half the bits, springs to mind)

Heresy! I can barely bring myself to throw away sprues

DON'T!! Put them in a meat grinder! It warps them into what looks like twisted girders. I use them for terrain & flocking my bases.

Huh interesting. But no, finding something to do with them wasn't the problem, I've used them as bricks in terrain, parts of objective markers, grot artillery, and I have found if you whittle them down the right way, they make good wooden posts or poles.

THey just took up too much space and I knew I had more than enough models to take up all my spare time, so I triaged them out

**Squidbot**

Davespil wrote:
So, when is the new codex coming out? I tried looking through this thread but couldn't find the date.

I wonder what that could mean?

**boredbeard**

Squidbot wrote:
Davespil wrote:
So, when is the new codex coming out? I tried looking through this thread but couldn't find the date.

I wonder what that could mean?

Simple...

...we haven't made a decision yet.

**Squidbot**

I wonder if we'll see a FW version of the G/Morkanaut, seeing as they've done their Knight.
£175 walking coffin.

**Rubs**

Squidbot wrote:
I wonder if we'll see a FW version of the G/Morkanaut, seeing as they've done their Knight.
£175 walking coffin.

I'd love to see a FW variant, much like the riptide. Will I buy it, we'll wait and see