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Eldar get a +2S AP4 Two-handed Melee weapon for 5 points.
Orks get a +2S AP5 Two-handed Melee weapon for 5 points. That pretty much sums up the codex leaks so far.

Stormboys got a cost reduction, but WOW did they get nerfed. Massive self inflicted casualties, not to mention you can no longer charge after using the extra D6 as you will count as having run.



I have a feeling the same people at GW who thought SM Chaplains were overpowered got stomped by an Ork player. Did anyone think Killa Kans were game-breaking?

You can also see the same vein of changes. Red Paint Job was changed to give +1 for flat out (in shooting phase, instead of shooting) instead of during the movement phase. Exhaust Cloud had it's always-on cover removed and now give +1 cover when turbo-boosting (in the shooting phase, instead of shooting, and prevents charging), and Stormboy's Rokkit Packs were changed to give +D6" when running (in the shooting phase, instead of shooting, and prevents charging) from being +D6" in the movement phase.

 boredbeard wrote:

biker changes make you excited to pay more for something that should have been included in the 50 dollar book your buying out the door, rather than buying it and another 4 to 10 dollar supplement?

1.) Bikes got cheaper.

2.) After what I've spent on this game, I don't sweat the price of a Dataslate.

3.) Kult of Speed was originally in the Armegedon Codex, and not the Ork Codex, so I don't see this situation as anything different.

4.) A Kult of Speed Datalslate will be more material for me to read and enjoy, instead of a line in the Ork codex saying I can play my FA choices as troops if I play a specific HQ.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
im seriously debating not even getting this codex. I'll admit orks are not suppose to be a competitive army, you play them to have fun more than win. But theres a defined line between competitive and playable. New orks seriously strike me as even less playable in the current meta than before, and they were already suffering. Barring some really insane 5+ luck, i rarely lasted a whole game with my orks except against tyranids (old or new dex).

Yeah, you do that, I'll go crush some heads with my 2+ rerollable KFF mek, his painboy buddy and their fellow 30 ork boyz while my warbos and his nob bikers enjoy their 3+ cover save

Not everything green is mold y

Chosen Praetorian wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

Chosen Praetorian wrote:Did anyone remember if they said what Waaagh! does now? Just curious considering I always felt like the Waaagh! turn would often make or break a game for an ork player

Pretty much what it did before, you get to charge and run. It's on warbosses now though, so no warboss, no Waaagh!.

So we really are getting 5th ed fleet back? If this is true then thats a very good thing. Move, run, assault

Yeah, and 'ere we go lets you reroll one charge dice. That said, it might be worthwhile to ignore the orkish warlord table and roll on the command traits from the book. Getting 2" movement on your Waaagh! isn't shabby and the other results are pretty nice as well.

Im like your style Jidmah, lets stay upbeat peeps.
Combos and nuances still to be worked and found out.

why is ghaz a lord of war does he have 9 wounds or something

I need to read up on combined detachments. I must run 12 kan's, 2 deff dreads, a megadread, and a gorkanaught.....

If the Mek can still take the KFF, why don't I see it on the new model sprue, AND the KFF metal model is listed as NLA?

sexybitchrosie wrote:
why is ghaz a lord of war does he have 9 wounds or something

Actually he lost 1 attack on the charge.

Otherwise unchanged, according to a certain ork drunk on cider

who all gets 'Ere We Go?

 Orock wrote:

 boredbeard wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

Chosen Praetorian wrote:
Ugh, it feels like I just found out that my wife is pregnant.

You couldn't be more deilghted ?

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The bike changes just make me look forward to the inevitable Kult of Speed Dataslate

Fingers crossed on that Sir.

biker changes make you excited to pay more for something that should have been included in the 50 dollar book your buying out the door, rather than buying it and another 4 to 10 dollar supplement? Would you care to invest in a bridge I just purchased?

I think I understand you point of view Orock.

The reason that I liked and commented on adamsouza reference to Kult of Speed is quite simple for me: I'd prefer to spend my WH40k budget on previously mentioned dataslate/supplement more than on Morka or Gorkanaut which don't fit my army very well.

And to be honest, equivalent of a pint or two is not that much, comparing to what we all spent on GW stuff.

 Jidmah wrote:

sexybitchrosie wrote:
why is ghaz a lord of war does he have 9 wounds or something

Actually he lost 1 attack on the charge.

Otherwise unchanged, according to a certain ork drunk on cider

that doesnt mean he is a lord of war thou there must done somethign to make he in the leagues of a titan is he a giganture creature

Who said Ghaz is a Lord of War?

Chosen Praetorian wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

Chosen Praetorian wrote:Did anyone remember if they said what Waaagh! does now? Just curious considering I always felt like the Waaagh! turn would often make or break a game for an ork player

Pretty much what it did before, you get to charge and run. It's on warbosses now though, so no warboss, no Waaagh!.

So we really are getting 5th ed fleet back? If this is true then thats a very good thing. Move, run, assault

Yeah, and 'ere we go lets you reroll one charge dice. That said, it might be worthwhile to ignore the orkish warlord table and roll on the command traits from the book. Getting 2" movement on your Waaagh! isn't shabby and the other results are pretty nice as well.

 kronk wrote:
Who said Ghaz is a Lord of War?

The guy who was taking questions about the codex.

 ciaflayed1 wrote:
who all gets 'Ere We Go?

All orks apearantly, it has been confirmed on Zagstruk, no idea about bikes and stormboyz...

Holy crap, I just realized that battlewagons have become bonkers to assault from...
1. Get Warboss
2. Get additional Warlord trait relic
3. Get boarding planks
4. Paint battlewagon red
5. Try to roll Master of the Vanguard warlord trait, reroll if necessary

Drive 19" first turn. Second turn, move 6", disembark 6", run d6+1", charge 2d6+3", reroll one dice. Say hi to an average 46" reach in turn 2.

Can some one post what the relics are?

"Nazdreg" anyone?

 kronk wrote:
Who said Ghaz is a Lord of War?

BolS is reporting this as true.

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/06/40k-breaking-ork-codex-rules.html

Thanks for posting the Nazdreg photo. That totally makes my day. I have been using the Ghazgul rules on my Nazdreg model. Hopefully they now have rules for him.

Jidmah wrote:Found and painted blue at Warseer

Right, home with a pint of cider in me, and several more in the fridge...

Weirdboys gain a Warp Charge point if there are 10 or more models with the 'ere we go rule (Pretty much any Ork from what I've seen) in 12" but has to take a psychic save or take a hit.
Power of the Waaagh! and Daemonlogy disciplines.
Can be upgraded to Psyker level 2.

Primaris power is Frazzle (Blast witchfire).
'Eadbanger is now a focussed witchfire.
Warpath is a self blessing
Da jump is what used to be 'ere we go.
Killbolt is a beam attack.
Power vomit (Yes really) is a template witchfire.
Da Krunch is a barrage witchfire.

What the frell... So BS2 models have 3/7 powers as Roll-to-Hit witchfires. Seriously? They better have frelling amazing statlines to make the Ork powers worth taking. Hell, to make WEIRDBOYZ worth taking. Ugh...just ugh. And still can't even take Pyromancy. Fan-frelling-tastic. AND they have a chance to hurt themselves, just by generating warp tokens? Pft... I guess we can see why there's no new Weirdboy model; they knew it wouldn't sell for gak.

Chosen Praetorian wrote:Ugh, it feels like I just found out that my wife is pregnant.

I feel like I just woke up and found out I got a vasectomy.

Time to scour swap shop for TauDar.

That's NazGREK. I don't normally say this...but that is not a very well painted model by the 'Eavy Metal team.

sexybitchrosie wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

sexybitchrosie wrote:
why is ghaz a lord of war does he have 9 wounds or something

Actually he lost 1 attack on the charge.

Otherwise unchanged, according to a certain ork drunk on cider

that doesnt mean he is a lord of war thou there must done somethign to make he in the leagues of a titan is he a giganture creature

He is listed as Lord of War choice. Taking him does not use a HQ slot, your opponent gets +1 to seize and taking wounds off him grants victory points. That's all there is to it.

Wow that Naz model ?!

 Dez wrote:
That's NazGREK. I don't normally say this...but that is not a very well painted model by the 'Eavy Metal team.

They seem to have trouble with yellow, or GW just stopped caring.

I guess we can see why there's no new Weirdboy model; they knew it wouldn't sell for gak.

Remember they can still roll from two other tables, one of which containers hammerhand, and the 4++ invuln.

I will happily allow my mate's to use ghaz as a hq choice.if he really hasn't changed, as that's idiotic

 Jidmah wrote:

sexybitchrosie wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

sexybitchrosie wrote:
why is ghaz a lord of war does he have 9 wounds or something

Actually he lost 1 attack on the charge.

Otherwise unchanged, according to a certain ork drunk on cider

that doesnt mean he is a lord of war thou there must done somethign to make he in the leagues of a titan is he a giganture creature

He is listed as Lord of War choice. Taking him does not use a HQ slot, your opponent gets +1 to seize and taking wounds off him grants victory points. That's all there is to it.

so he worth one VP since he only has 4 wounds lol and he is the weakest lord of there is not even a gainture creature then

Also:

Big meks in the meganob kit has been confirmed

Hes still hard though, gained EW and one less attack, meh to that.....

 Ratius wrote:
Hes still hard though, gained EW and one less attack, meh to that.....

He already had EW (it was a sub rule under adamantium skull)


We also need to know what cybork body does now. 5++, 6+ FNP, both? That wasn't clarified.