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Does anyone know how much the Ghazghkull supplement will cost? Not the DLC version, the hard back one

 Melcavuk wrote:
Everyone else has to pay for them, and units that cant take a nob dont have access to boss poles (looking at lootas and burnas here specifically)

Working it out Flash Gitz are actually really good value. They're basically a Nob (18 Points), with a boss pole (5 points) and they gain Git Findas (5 points) and Snazz Guns. Even if you feel the snazz gun is a fair swap for the slugga/choppa you're still essentially getting 28 points of kit on a 22 point model.

That's the thing with our heavy support choices. They are decent but allways a trade-off. FGs are much better in CC than lootas and have potentially a much better effect on TEQ units but at lower S and shorter range. Depends on your playstyle I guess. I'll roll with the gitz, lootas are too static for me.

Just once, if there are ten or more models with ere we go nearby.
If he generates this charge, and doesnt successfully cast a power he takes a str 2 HIT (not wound).
Generating this additional charge isnt a choice, if there are more than 10 models with ere we go nearby it generates.

Cool, thanks!

 Melcavuk wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Does Grotsnik still force his unit to make compulsory moves?

Nothing in his rules state about compulsary moves, just fearless and rampage and he cant leave them till they're all dead.

Huh, that's a huge buff for the Mad Dok. Being able to move in a sensible fashion instead of straight-forward is nice and makes the Dok actually viable in my eyes.

Looking at it, i think ill use command traits for the good ol' warboss, as he has waaagh! Already and the lukky stixx gives him re rolls, he doesn't need str 6 as he has a pk, so command benefits the army with ld and movement, meaning da boyz will get to da skrap fasta!

Big shootas in boy mobs have stayed the same price, right? Also, if taken in a Shoota mob, you wouldn't have to pay 7pts for a shoota then 5pts on top of that for a big shoota, it'd be 11pts total?

Melcavuk:

I was reading one of your past comments and was thinking:

So you could get a Mega Armored Warboss with the Relic Choppa? If that happens, does his Power Klaw get replaced? Or does he keep both?

That's an interesting option because you are hitting with rending, S7 (AP5 is garbage, but meh) and 4 attacks, 5 on charge.

S8 on charge, instagibbing some opponents ,and decapitate others with rolls of 6. Actually it's about time orks get a big choppa worth a damn.

Do we know it Grotsnik stats changed ? As long as he stays T5 I'm good.

I love that squig-Please don't bypass the language filter like this. Reds8n crazy ork.

Multimoog wrote:Big shootas in boy mobs have stayed the same price, right? Also, if taken in a Shoota mob, you wouldn't have to pay 7pts for a shoota then 5pts on top of that for a big shoota, it'd be 11pts total?

Interesting question, had to go back and check however I think you're paying 12 points for the big shoota just because it says "the entire mob may..." its a replacement for a slugga so if you already replaced your slugga for a big shoota then you might not have to pay it, but its questionable.

BooBoo wrote:Melcavuk:

I was reading one of your past comments and was thinking:

So you could get a Mega Armored Warboss with the Relic Choppa? If that happens, does his Power Klaw get replaced? Or does he keep both?

That's an interesting option because you are hitting with rending, S7 (AP5 is garbage, but meh) and 4 attacks, 5 on charge.

Taking the relic choppa doesnt replace any of your weapons, so you'd keep both.5 Str 8 Init 4 attacks on the charge, 6's rending and insta deathing

Dakkafang Dreggrim wrote:Do we know it Grotsnik stats changed ? As long as he stays T5 I'm good.

I love that crazy ork.

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 Perfect Organism wrote:
I think I'm going to start converting a Big Mek on a bike with a KFF soon. I've got some suitable force field worky bits from the Mek Gun kit and a few unbuilt bikes lying around, so it should be a pretty easy kitbash.

Is there any obvious weapon upgrade or suchlike which you would really want on a big mek biker? It doesn't seem likely that you would ever really want to get stuck into close combat with him and you might as well rely on the bike guns for shooting.

I'd put him on the relic bike for AP3 shooting, then give him a kustom mega slugga and choppa so if he does hit CC he's getting a bonus attack, and can challenge a tanks armour with the strength 8 pistol if needed.

What's the range of the bike relic's wpn? 18inches?

24 inch, Str 6 AP3, Assault 3, Twinlinked, also worth mentioning that since we're talking Big Mek you could always give him a Rokkit Launcher if you're after anti tank.

One more question for now: if the Big Mek's statline has stayed the same, he has Ld 8 - do Painboyz now get Ld 8 as well? This will be important for people intending to replace Nobz with HQ in Boyz mobz.

Edit: also, you can only take ONE bosspole reroll per failed Ld check, no matter how many are in the mob itself?

These relics are pretty fantastic!

Loving them!

Thanks Mel!!

Nope, Big Mek, Warboss and Named Characters are the only people with LD higher than 7

I'm just gonna ask again if you fellas don't mind.

Can a Warboss take Da Fixin Uppers? I can imagine the possibility to make a Mekboss if this is possible.

Rubs wrote:
These relics are pretty fantastic!

Loving them!

Thanks Mel!!

One thing I've found is that all the relics, warlord traits and psychic powers in this book are immensely useful.

The "worst" of the bunch being a +1 attack buff for the weirdboy and his unit, which being Orks is still awesome, more attacks more killing. If he's in a 30 strong boyz mob thats suddenly 31 extra attacks


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 big mek crazygit wrote:
I'm just gonna ask again if you fellas don't mind.

Can a Warboss take Da Fixin Uppers? I can imagine the possibility to make a Mekboss if this is possible.

Sorry, must have missed you. I took a nap and woke up to 3 pages of stuff.

No, Big Mek only on that one.

That's alright. :3

And darn, could had hoped that he could. Ah well.

 Multimoog wrote:
Yeah, those gretchin are going to be disintegrated immediately

I know that but I have so little faith in my boyz now. I can already see them being shot at by barrage weapons or outflanking units, and failing Ld test afterwards.
With such a list, you can't really have many scoring units. Grotz come dirt cheap. Do you think it's not viable to play like this? It's not very Orky, I know, but can be fun too.
Also, don't forget it's annoying for the opponent to waste aunit's firepower on just 40 points worth. On the other hand, it can be Victory Points for him, sure...
I was thinking about getting Grot Tanks to field my buggies, so you have mainly just grotz on the battlefield

Anyway, I'll keep that in mind, thanks.

Waaargh wrote:
I can see my last sentence was not well written. It was directed at general list building more than your actual list, and I sorta assumed you had brought along a good number of traktor kannonz (3 to 5 gunz). To continue along that line of thought I'd like - and would suggest others - to bring 5 smasha kannonz and a number of traktor kannonz, who can also target skimmers (eldars, necrons, tau) and stop them from delivering scoring units. In your list the number of kannonz seems like overkill and I wonder if the 3rd HS could be replaced with something else that is better against infantry, since your FA is focused at scoring and targeting armour.

The beauty of going full mek gun-line is the opponent will just try to ignore them as targets and thereby let them keep firing. The downside is the buggies are now prime targets, and the few grots will suffer a lot of casualties.

Well, on the first turn the opponent has no other option than targeting the Mekgunz (except for barrage weapons).
Buggies outflank, you have good chances of firing 15x Rokkits before the opponent can actually return the favor.
And in some ways, that allows a third turn with your (almost?) entire gunline.
Don't you agree?

Oh boy... possibly more releases? My wallet has been hurting since those flash gitz, but more is great!

Just saw the release list. Discounts on bundles? Oh my.

rtb01 wrote:
Do you have any pics of the mek gunz next to stuff for scale shots please? Also what size base would they be on, 40mm or 60mm? Thanks in advance!

No comparison shots, but after measuring the real deal, this estimate I made was pretty much spot-on.

They don't come with bases, but if they did, they would just about fit on a '60mm' (which is actually a little bit bigger than 60mm).

 Perfect Organism wrote:

rtb01 wrote:
Do you have any pics of the mek gunz next to stuff for scale shots please? Also what size base would they be on, 40mm or 60mm? Thanks in advance!

No comparison shots, but after measuring the real deal, this estimate I made was pretty much spot-on.

They don't come with bases, but if they did, they would just about fit on a '60mm' (which is actually a little bit bigger than 60mm).

Yep, the kit only comes with the 5 regular bases for the grots.

Kit was actually very fun to put together and its gonna look great on the battlefield.

The red waaagh! has got me pumped up! Wonder what it could mean..

 pretre wrote:
Just saw the release list. Discounts on bundles? Oh my.

Care to share?

 Dez wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Just saw the release list. Discounts on bundles? Oh my.

Care to share?

 Dez wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Just saw the release list. Discounts on bundles? Oh my.

Care to share?

Oh, I figured it was posted already:



Saw it on TG first

some dude on TG wrote:so they brought the trukk boyz box back, and it's $6 cheaper than getting a boyz box and a trukk individually now, and the battlewagon comes with the upgrade kit now and is $6.75 cheaper than they were seperately. And if the Dread mob is what I think it is (two deff dreads), then it's $14 cheaper than those seperately. Also the new MANz are 3.75 cheaper than getting 3 of the old ones.

Care to share?

(via Grot Orlderly)
Codex Supplement: Waaagh! Ghazghkull
We got a confirmation it's coming out on 5th of July! Sooner than everybody expected. It will be a limited run (not edition); later on it will be available via Mail Order.

Deff Dread Mob
Two existing models packed together. Limited run. Saving of 15% against two separate boxes.

Ork Trukk Boyz
A set similar to Armoured Fist, meaning Troops and Transport in one box. Potential saving of 10% against when bought separately.

Ork Meganobz
As I wrote previously, 3 MANs with an option to make one as a Big Mek in Mega Armour. Additionally we will get a Grot Oiler model.

Do all those things mean that we will be getting limited runs to save us money whenever a new dex comes out? I hope so.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

rtb01 wrote:
Do you have any pics of the mek gunz next to stuff for scale shots please? Also what size base would they be on, 40mm or 60mm? Thanks in advance!

No comparison shots, but after measuring the real deal, this estimate I made was pretty much spot-on.

They don't come with bases, but if they did, they would just about fit on a '60mm' (which is actually a little bit bigger than 60mm).

I find 50x75 rectangle monstrous cav bases from fantasy are about perfect for artillery in 40K- I use them for both my Rapier batteries and Thunderfire cannon, and the numbers you have means they are about perfect for Mek Gunz.

The new Big Mek and the new Grot Oiler.

Cheers for the pics gents

 Perfect Organism wrote:

rtb01 wrote:
Do you have any pics of the mek gunz next to stuff for scale shots please? Also what size base would they be on, 40mm or 60mm? Thanks in advance!

No comparison shots, but after measuring the real deal, this estimate I made was pretty much spot-on.

They don't come with bases, but if they did, they would just about fit on a '60mm' (which is actually a little bit bigger than 60mm).

Here's an image I took... a few more comparisons on my blog here:
http://itslikewatchingpaintdry.blogspot.ca/2014/06/shokk-attack-gun-side-by-side.html