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Melevolence wrote:

morpheuschild wrote:
well, so much for the old motto 'boyz before toyz'...

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Split-Grin-Bad-Moons-Tribe

Neat stuff, except that price tag makes me want to vomit.

True, though it's the name/quality you're paying for.

The iBook version is ready to d/l now but the ebook version is still on pre order why?


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It looks much better than previous codexes,. Hope this image is ok

Orkhead wrote:

 Dakkafang Dreggrim wrote:
Kans still serve the same purpose now you just get more per choice. Their role did. Ot change at all or their use fullness.

You must play differently than I do for my kans used to kill multiple wound T4 models/ LandRaiders/ Monoliths. They can do none of that now.

Kans are IMHO a decent all rounder, ok the str drop is a nerf, but a 6 Kan mob with grotzookas still drops 12 str 6 blasts a turn and is still a threat in combat to anything bar a land raider, which now needs to be covered by gork/morkanauts and deff dreads.

i agree its a nerf, but it means more options in the codex are viable rather than just spamming 18 Kans.

i expect i'll be running 1 mob with Morkanaut support.

Trees screenshots were from the ghaz supplement at the end of the iBook codex

18 kos warbands???

As much as a hate the idea of less artwork, I love the look of the new book. Those semi-abstract borders, the lovely glyphs, even the way that different areas of the pages are subtly pushed with soft colour gradients. I can't wait to have a printed version in my hands, even if the rules are disappointing.

I haven't seen many opinions on the background and writing style of the new book. Do those who have had a chance to read it like it? Is it mostly recycled or more new material? Typically awkward games-workshop 'purple prose' or the kind of drier, witty material we get in the better books?

Do we have background material on the random elements of ork society, like hair squigs and fungus farming, like the first edition books? I read that the ork glyph dictionary made it back in. Is it the same or have they mixed it up a bit?

 pizzaguardian wrote:
18 kos warbands???

Apocalypse formation from the look of things..

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Oh for god's sake, it's not even out yet lol. Try playing the game with the new rules first?

Also, think I'll just leave this here for you all...



Think that big thing on the Nob's shoulders is called a Tellyporta Blaster

Anyone else think they look really slowed?

What the feth is that blue light thing on them? I don't like the stuff on their backs and shoulders. It makes them look...off IMO.


Oh, and commenting on something about the bad moons 1.1k Kit that was linked.

I don't really play bad moons.

My orks have a Trollblood "like" paint scheme on their skin. They are basically a custom Tribe I have not quite decided on a name for just yet. Lead by Warboss Nabdrak Gutsmek and Gorclaw Klawhamma. They are like a combination between Bad Moons, and Death skulls.

Thachng wrote:
Trees screenshots were from the ghaz supplement at the end of the iBook codex

Wotz all dem extra rulz fer da sneaky gitz? Me camoboyz are grindin der choppas to get stuck in.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 pizzaguardian wrote:
18 kos warbands???

Apocalypse formation from the look of things..

Given the units are named (e.g., Fug's Riderz instead of 1 unit of warbikers) I suspect it's a fluff bit detailing a particular Waaagh. Sort of like the Space Marine codex breaking down each Company.

What was up with that Weirdboy "codex entry" before. Was it a codex entry or a White Dwarf page?

And 18 KoS formations, thats pretty cool

decker_cky wrote:

 PhillyT wrote:
Too bad about the kans getting dropped to S7, though it makes some sense and doesn't really change how they are used much. A unit will still mug most vehicles and almost any MC. Any unit they kill with S10 they kill with S7.

Now why they had no point reduction considering everything else we know of, that is the real confusing point.

Quite a bit worse against other dreads (mostly AV12-13) isn't it?

Yeah, and also any vehicle with greater than AV10 on the rear.

But how often did you you see opposing dreads and walkers? Hardly any competitive army will field walkers, even with the new rules improving them versus MC. A nerd for sure, particularly given the lack of a point drop.

I wonder what the kult of speed formation actually is. It seems unlikely that they would include deffkoptas, because they don't sell a model for them and even buggies seem like something they wouldn't be keen to promote. Warboss, biker nobs, mek, boys in trukks and warbikers maybe?

 Perfect Organism wrote:
I wonder what the kult of speed formation actually is. It seems unlikely that they would include deffkoptas, because they don't sell a model for them and even buggies seem like something they wouldn't be keen to promote. Warboss, biker nobs, mek, boys in trukks and warbikers maybe?

Well therr is currently a kult of speed set up for preorder, but it really doesn't seem to fit

Could be doing a new Deffkopta model??

Unlikely given the codex apparently features the old metal model, not even the plastic AoBR model.

 Vasarto wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Oh for god's sake, it's not even out yet lol. Try playing the game with the new rules first?

Also, think I'll just leave this here for you all...



Think that big thing on the Nob's shoulders is called a Tellyporta Blaster

Anyone else think they look really slowed?

What the feth is that blue light thing on them? I don't like the stuff on their backs and shoulders. It makes them look...off IMO.


Oh, and commenting on something about the bad moons 1.1k Kit that was linked.

I don't really play bad moons.

My orks have a Trollblood "like" paint scheme on their skin. They are basically a custom Tribe I have not quite decided on a name for just yet. Lead by Warboss Nabdrak Gutsmek and Gorclaw Klawhamma. They are like a combination between Bad Moons, and Death skulls.

As I said- it's the Tellyporta blaster.

 PhillyT wrote:

decker_cky wrote:

 PhillyT wrote:
Too bad about the kans getting dropped to S7, though it makes some sense and doesn't really change how they are used much. A unit will still mug most vehicles and almost any MC. Any unit they kill with S10 they kill with S7.

Now why they had no point reduction considering everything else we know of, that is the real confusing point.

Quite a bit worse against other dreads (mostly AV12-13) isn't it?

Yeah, and also any vehicle with greater than AV10 on the rear.

But how often did you you see opposing dreads and walkers? Hardly any competitive army will field walkers, even with the new rules improving them versus MC. A nerd for sure, particularly given the lack of a point drop.

Not every one cares about competitive fyi. Also S7 can still hurt up to armor 13, and given you can take 6 Iin a unit if they get a charge off that's up to 18 S7 attacks. Isn't one of the best ways to strip HP S7 spam? =p

Leerjawise wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:
I wonder what the kult of speed formation actually is. It seems unlikely that they would include deffkoptas, because they don't sell a model for them and even buggies seem like something they wouldn't be keen to promote. Warboss, biker nobs, mek, boys in trukks and warbikers maybe?

Well therr is currently a kult of speed set up for preorder, but it really doesn't seem to fit

Battlewagons, stompa, flash gits, lootas... no it doesn't seem very 'speed' orientated, does it?

On the other hand, the Ork Warband set gives you exactly the minimum models to field an ork warband formation, so it seems odd that they would release a bundle with the same name as a formation without it matching the content of the formation.

Tellyport Blasta 12" S8 AP2 Assault 1, Blast, Tellyported: Any T Wound roll of a 6 made with this weapon has the Instant Death Special Rule, ...


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I have seen the Promised Codex, couldn't take it home yet, but looked through it.

 ciaflayed1 wrote:
Tellyport Blasta 12" S8 AP2 Assault 1, Blast, Tellyported: Any T Wound roll of a 6 made with this weapon has the Instant Death Special Rule, ...


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I have seen the Promised Codex, couldn't take it home yet, but looked through it.

Seems quite a nasty bit of kit then.

 Dakkafang Dreggrim wrote:

 PhillyT wrote:

decker_cky wrote:

 PhillyT wrote:
Too bad about the kans getting dropped to S7, though it makes some sense and doesn't really change how they are used much. A unit will still mug most vehicles and almost any MC. Any unit they kill with S10 they kill with S7.

Now why they had no point reduction considering everything else we know of, that is the real confusing point.

Quite a bit worse against other dreads (mostly AV12-13) isn't it?

Yeah, and also any vehicle with greater than AV10 on the rear.

But how often did you you see opposing dreads and walkers? Hardly any competitive army will field walkers, even with the new rules improving them versus MC. A nerd for sure, particularly given the lack of a point drop.

Not every one cares about competitive fyi. Also S7 can still hurt up to armor 13, and given you can take 6 Iin a unit if they get a charge off that's up to 18 S7 attacks. Isn't one of the best ways to strip HP S7 spam? =p

Preaching to the choir son! I don't play super competitive, but that shift from S10 to S7 does have an impact in some situations.

I thought the tellyporta was assault 3 - makes it a little less desireable.

 ciaflayed1 wrote:
Tellyport Blasta 12" S8 AP2 Assault 1, Blast, Tellyported: Any T Wound roll of a 6 made with this weapon has the Instant Death Special Rule, ...


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I have seen the Promised Codex, couldn't take it home yet, but looked through it.

Also says: "If this weapon rolls a 6 for Armor Penetration, it causes a penetrating hit, regardless of whether the armor penetration result was higher then the target's armor value or not.

12" Blast, BS2 model.

May the scatter die be ever in your favor!

Also prevents picking a KFF, so I doubt we'll see that one often.

I'd rather use the KFF myself, too. Just thought it was interesting.


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This will be the first time I've EVER gone to a midnight release of ANYTHING. My local store owner said he'd stick around so I could get it after midnight. Yeah, me!


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He got my Codex & Data Cards in yesterday, so I looked through them, but I have to wait to take them home. The new layout looks great, easy to read, and the data cards include Psychic cards too.

It is interesting. KFF or Painboy is a much better overall option.

In the current product line, is the only KFF bit on the Morkanaut kit and the fine cast big mek with KFF?
I am shocked that they didn't include another off bit in either the meganob or big mek plastic kit.

The KFF Big Mek is NLA on the GW site, along with the DeffKoptaz! New models soon?!?

So many naysayers >_<

I, for one, am very excited at buying and playing with the new codex!