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Imperial Guard:
HQ:
CCS, MoO- 80pts

Troops:
Veteran Squad, 3x Meltagun, demolitions (1 demo charge, 10x meltabombs)- 130pts
Veteran Squad, 3x Meltagun- 100pts
Infantry Platoon: PCS, 2x Infantry Squad- 130pts

Elites:
Guardsman Marbo- 65pts

Fast Attack:
Vendetta Gunship- 130pts
Vendetta Gunship- 130pts

Heavy Support:
3x Basilisks- 375pts
Manticore Rocket Launcher- 160pts

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Space Marine Allies:
HQ: Librarian- 65pts

Troops:
Scout Squad, 4x Sniper rifle, Sergeant Telion, Camo cloaks- 119pts

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Inquisitors:
HQ:
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor, 3x Servo Skulls- 34pts

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Imperial Knights
Knight Errant- 370pts

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Fortification:
ADL + Quad Gun- 100pts


Total: 1988

So the plan is to hide the Heavy support in the back bubble wrapped in the platoon and behind the aegis defense line. The sniper scouts and sergeant telion will be next to the quad gun to make use of telions precision fire and BS6. The inquisitor will sit back and use his servo skulls to either defend against deep strikers or used as targeting for the enemies deployment. The veterans will pile into the vendettas and will be used to take out AV while the vendettas shoot at fliers and AV on ground. The knight errant will be used to rush the enemy lines and take out whatever the biggest threat is with its large melta blast and str D weapon.

So, what do you guys think?

Edit: Sergeant Telion can also use his precision fire to take out melta models near the knight.

I'm not sure what costs more, the price of the models or the price of all the rulebooks/codexes you will be referencing!

Has a very nice "Imperial Army" feel to it! A little bit of everything. Strategy seems solid enough.

 rryannn wrote:
I'm not sure what costs more, the price of the models or the price of all the rulebooks/codexes you will be referencing!

Has a very nice "Imperial Army" feel to it! A little bit of everything. Strategy seems solid enough.

Haha! My FLGS allows me to sift through the store copy of the codexi and will let me cite them in games. If I end up buying more than just a few models from the codex I always just buy the codex.

I like the imperium armies and their lore, so I enjoy playing with them.

 Ryan_A wrote:
Imperial Guard:
HQ:
CCS, MoO- 80pts

Troops:
Veteran Squad, 3x Meltagun, demolitions (1 demo charge, 10x meltabombs)- 130pts
Veteran Squad, 3x Meltagun- 100pts

In the Vendetta? If you're going airborne I'd strongly consider the plasmaguns instead, maybe with demolitions doctrine for versatility and anti-MC hilarity.

Infantry Platoon: PCS, 2x Infantry Squad- 130pts

Elites:
Guardsman Marbo- 65pts

Meh. You'd be better off investing in heavy weapons for the platoon.
Fast Attack:
Vendetta Gunship- 130pts
Vendetta Gunship- 130pts

Heavy Support:
3x Basilisks- 375pts
Manticore Rocket Launcher- 160pts

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Space Marine Allies:
HQ: Librarian- 65pts

Troops:
Scout Squad, 4x Sniper rifle, Sergeant Telion, Camo cloaks- 119pts

Its a lot of points for something that's pretty mediocre at best. Being able to snipe out the odd heavy weapon a turn, maybe is not worth 180+ points. The Librarian and the rest of the Scouts just don't fit into this list as at all, you already have the home objective campers and the Libby offers nothing truly useful.

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Inquisitors:
HQ:
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor, 3x Servo Skulls- 34pts

Psyker upgrade is a no brainer here.
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Imperial Knights
Knight Errant- 370pts

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Fortification:
ADL + Quad Gun- 100pts


Total: 1988

So the plan is to hide the Heavy support in the back bubble wrapped in the platoon and behind the aegis defense line. The sniper scouts and sergeant telion will be next to the quad gun to make use of telions precision fire and BS6. The inquisitor will sit back and use his servo skulls to either defend against deep strikers or used as targeting for the enemies deployment. The veterans will pile into the vendettas and will be used to take out AV while the vendettas shoot at fliers and AV on ground. The knight errant will be used to rush the enemy lines and take out whatever the biggest threat is with its large melta blast and str D weapon.

So, what do you guys think?

Edit: Sergeant Telion can also use his precision fire to take out melta models near the knight.

Get psyker for your inquisitor. For 30 points you can cast presence on the basilisk.

 exploited751 wrote:
Get psyker for your inquisitor. For 30 points you can cast presence on the basilisk.

Presence says allows to re-roll failed to hit rolls, but basilisks use blasts, it wouldnt work, would it?

I believe it allows you to re-roll the scatter if you hit nothing

You may be right Ryan, I think the rule twin linked for templates allows you to re-roll any results you are not happy with but presence doesn't allow you to re-roll scatter just like it doesn't allow you to re-roll failed to wounds with flamer/template weapons. I would have to double check the rules.

 exploited751 wrote:
You may be right Ryan, I think the rule twin linked for templates allows you to re-roll any results you are not happy with but presence doesn't allow you to re-roll scatter just like it doesn't allow you to re-roll failed to wounds with flamer/template weapons. I would have to double check the rules.

Damn, my hopes were raised and then dashed in an instant.

I don't have my BRB with me. Check the templates sections and or the Twin Linked section and it may outline it there. If there is a rule that states you get to re-roll misses with blast weapons then presence will work. If the rule is under the Twin Linked section then it wouldn't.

Ugh, I contemplated grabbing my SRB earlier in the hopes someone would answer this accurately but whatever.

Pg. 33, under Blast Weapons and Re-rolls:

If a model has the ability to re-roll its to hit and chooses to do so after firing a blast weapon, the player must re-roll both the scatter dice and the 2D6.

So yes, Prescience allows your artillery to re-roll to hit attempts for each shot. That's why taking the Psyker upgrade is a no brainer, and why with the Servo Skulls it becomes filthy.

 Mr.Omega wrote:
Ugh, I contemplated grabbing my SRB earlier in the hopes someone would answer this accurately but whatever.

Pg. 33, under Blast Weapons and Re-rolls:

If a model has the ability to re-roll its to hit and chooses to do so after firing a blast weapon, the player must re-roll both the scatter dice and the 2D6.

So yes, Prescience allows your artillery to re-roll to hit attempts for each shot. That's why taking the Psyker upgrade is a no brainer, and why with the Servo Skulls it becomes filthy.

Alright, thanks for that. I am still confused though, because the description of prescience is:
" Prescience is a blessing that targets a single friendly unit within 12". Whilst the power is in effect, the target unit can re-roll all failed To Hit rolls."

So what qualifies a failed To Hit roll with a blast weapon? Is that when it rolls an arrow?

What Mr.Omega just said:

If a model has the ability to re-roll its to hit and chooses to do so after firing a blast weapon, the player must re-roll both the scatter dice and the 2D6.

Due to presence, you have the option to re-roll your to hits, so you can re-roll the whole result of the scatter die and 2d6 if you are not happy. To my understanding, if you shoot a template, it scatters and only hits 1 person and you are not happy with that, you could still re-roll it since you have the option. There are no predetermined conditions to qualify when and when you can't re-roll.

 exploited751 wrote:
What Mr.Omega just said:

If a model has the ability to re-roll its to hit and chooses to do so after firing a blast weapon, the player must re-roll both the scatter dice and the 2D6.

Due to presence, you have the option to re-roll your to hits, so you can re-roll the whole result of the scatter die and 2d6 if you are not happy. To my understanding, if you shoot a template, it scatters and only hits 1 person and you are not happy with that, you could still re-roll it since you have the option. There are no predetermined conditions to qualify when and when you can't re-roll.

"unit can re-roll all failed To Hit rolls."

You do not gain the ability to re-roll unless you failed your roll to hit, what qualifies as a failed roll to hit with a blast marker, an arrow?

Edit:2 still confused

A hit on the scatter die is a hit. An arrow is a miss. So, if you roll an arrow, you may choose to re-roll the scatter die and 2d6. You don't have to re-roll though, in the case that you like where the miss accidentally ended up.

So unlike ordinary multiple barrage (which is really, really ineffective most of the time), twin-linked multiple barrage is very effective because you can choose whether or not to re-roll every single blast within the multiple barrage.

You really need to figure out how to get Legion of the Damned in there to round out the entire option of the FOC. I love this list.

What Chapter Tactics are you using with the Space Marines?

Hollismason wrote:
You really need to figure out how to get Legion of the Damned in there to round out the entire option of the FOC. I love this list.

What Chapter Tactics are you using with the Space Marines?

Ultramarines so I can get telions precision shots on the quad gun to go special weapon hunting!


Edit: why legion of the damned?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Do you think the space marine allies are worth it? I mean, I am spending 184pts to get precision fire on my quad gun, 5 2+ cover save snipers, and a librarian. I just dont know if all that points for the precision fire on the quad gun is worth it, yes it would help my Knight survive by taking out melta and take out anything else I need, but I have not really had any experience with precision fire. The cover save is nice, and 1 out of the 4 sniper shots is likely to also be a precision shot, but thats a lot of points. I don't know what to do with the librarian though, maybe try to roll on the telekinesis table and try to get telekine dome, vortex of doom, crush, or oburation and use whatever I get. What do you guys think?


For reference:
HQ: Librarian- 65pts

Troops:
Scout Squad, 4x Sniper rifle, Sergeant Telion, Camo cloaks- 119