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Hey! Why isn't anyone asking the real question? Where is CNN's 24/7 wall-to-wall coverage? Don't they consider this as important as the missing flight out of Micronesia or wherever?
I mean, how will my life be complete without a local reporter talking about how some guy in the distance is walking toward a tree and speculating on what the possible meaning of it is? How do I get through my day without comments like, "There's some activity over at the BLM encampment. We're not sure what is happening exactly but I think I saw someone leave the tent and walk over to one of the cars parked at the encampment. It looked like he was talking to the driver of the car and... I think he's... he's... yes, he just went back into the tent."
Where are you CNN? *sniff*
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reported elsewhere
"Bu t ... [Reid] and his oldest son, Rory, are involved in an effort by a Chinese energy giant, ENN Energy Group, to build a $5 billion solar farm and panel manufacturing plant in the southern Nevada desert ... His son helped locate a 9,000-acre (3,600-hectare) desert site in Clark County, where Rory Reid formerly chaired the county commission".
These reports are in plain view, the mainstream media has so far ignored this link. The bundy ranch is the only spot that fits the description.
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
loki old fart wrote: I see trial by internet. Me I'll just watch and see what turns up.
Maybe he's guilty, maybe not. Time will tell.
Well, he's also been in 2 different courts for the last 15 years, losing all the way. The BLM are enforcing lawful court orders, not "internet jury decisions". So, you know, there is that too.
Breotan wrote: Hey! Why isn't anyone asking the real question? Where is CNN's 24/7 wall-to-wall coverage? Don't they consider this as important as the missing flight out of Micronesia or wherever?
I hold CNN mostly in contempt, but still read the site now and then. My method of consuming news is web-only, no video, because I like to read not listen. So I read most of the big sites every night and have for a very, very long time, even the ones that I know kinda suck like CNN and Fox News. What has happened over there over the last 5 weeks is literally without precedent in my on and off usage of their site. I have seen some gak - missing white women, elian gonzalez, etc - but I have never seen anything like their fascination with that airplane. Nothing. As far as I can tell, it has literally been the top story since it happened, with the mass stabbing and the truck crash knocking it off for about 6 hours each.
The federal governments killing or nonkilling of turtles, their plot to put a day spa or a chinese factory or a whorehouse on the property, these are all totally, wholly irrelevant to the fact that he has not paid his grazing fees and has no right to be there; period, full stop.
If I don't pay my mortgage it doesn't really matter if the bank colludes to build a gecko breeding facility there once i'm forced off the land I no longer have a right to be on.
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Flinty wrote: The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
You propose that the BLM is acting indirectly on behalf of the solar farm consortium?
I don't see why that is a problem, to be frank, unless the charges against the Bundies have been trumped up solely for the purpose of getting them off the land for building the solar farm.
Kilkrazy wrote: You propose that the BLM is acting indirectly on behalf of the solar farm consortium?
I don't see why that is a problem, to be frank, unless the charges against the Bundies have been trumped up solely for the purpose of getting them off the land for building the solar farm.
Considering the reason for that zone, is to protect the desert tortoise. which cattle have lived with for years. Ant the new plant will threaten
that environment.
"Desert Tortoise
• Goal: Mitigate unavoidable impacts to further sustain the populations of federally listed species so they no longer need protection under the Endangered Species Act." Taken from BLM pdf.
In a case of “I would never have believed this in a million years”, the Arizona State Senate President Andy Biggs and the Arizona House of Representatives Speaker Dave Livingston are both in agreement that Arizona should be involved in supporting CSPOA and Oath Keepers in going to Bunkerville, Nevada. These two leaders of the Arizona Legislature have vowed to support the Cliven Bundy family.
“A Delegation of state legislators, lead by Washington State Representative Matt Shea, along with a delegation of current serving Sheriffs, lead by Sheriff Richard Mack of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, and military and police members of Oath Keepers, are converging on the site of a stand-off between federal law enforcement and Nevada Rancher Cliven Bundy, to prevent bloodshed and to stand in defense of hardworking rural Americans who are under assault by a runaway federal government.”
LAS VEGAS, NV, April 10, 2014
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
Kilkrazy wrote: How do you know the new plant will threaten the tortoises?
The blm pdf said as much.
Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
Kilkrazy wrote: How do you know the new plant will threaten the tortoises?
It doesn't matter if it does or not, I've been told thousands of these tortoises are killed yearly by developers and that the government just cut funding to some kind of facility down there dedicated to preserving them, neccesitating the killing of thousands more.
It was never about preserving these creatures.
This may or may not mean anything, just thought I'd put it out here because the Clark County Fair is a big deal when it happens in that area, but there was hardly any traffic to it compared to what there usually is yesterday.
When this thing goes on, the road is choked with traffic during the full run of the fair.
Relapse wrote: This may or may not mean anything, just thought I'd put it out here because the Clark County Fair is a big deal when it happens in that area, but there was hardly any traffic to it compared to what there usually is yesterday.
When this thing goes on, the road is choked with traffic during the full run of the fair.
It'll be interesting to see the final numbers on visitors to the fair this year and how it was impacted.
Why do you keep insisting that what is happening between Bundy and the BLM is somehow going to crush the massive wave of tourism that this area supposedly relies on to survive? The land that is impacted by the closing is indeed "public land" but this is how it is described: "The area is remote with limited vehicular access over steep, rugged terrain"
Is the land that Bundy is fighting over in the Valley of Fire? Nope. It also doesn't keep anyone from accessing Lake Meade, so we don't have to worry about that either.
News flash: it won't impact anyone.
Quit trying to drum up all the "but think of the residents!" sympathy over this.
The no-fly zone is to keep pilots out of the area because the BLM will be using "low-flying aircraft to herd and capture cattle."
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Relapse wrote: This may or may not mean anything, just thought I'd put it out here because the Clark County Fair is a big deal when it happens in that area, but there was hardly any traffic to it compared to what there usually is yesterday.
When this thing goes on, the road is choked with traffic during the full run of the fair.
It'll be interesting to see the final numbers on visitors to the fair this year and how it was impacted.
Why do you keep insisting that what is happening between Bundy and the BLM is somehow going to crush the massive wave of tourism that this area supposedly relies on to survive? The land that is impacted by the closing is indeed "public land" but this is how it is described: "The area is remote with limited vehicular access over steep, rugged terrain"
Is the land that Bundy is fighting over in the Valley of Fire? Nope. It also doesn't keep anyone from accessing Lake Meade, so we don't have to worry about that either.
News flash: it won't impact anyone.
Quit trying to drum up all the "but think of the residents!" sympathy over this.
An interesting quote from the article about the Texas land dispute:
"For many, that property has been in their family for generations.
"How can BLM come in and say, "Hey, this isn't yours." Even though it’s patented from the state, you've always paid taxes on it. Our family has paid taxes for over 100 years on this place. We've got a deed to it. But yet they walked in and said it wasn't ours," said Henderson."
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d-usa wrote: So is the Lone Ranger Bundy, or the other guy that explained how his cattle is legally grazing there and how be paid his money and got his permit?
The "he's the only guy left" bit makes it clear that the journalist is just serving up BS.
I just found out about the other guy I linked. The difference between him and Bundy is scale of operations. I'm told he only runs a few head of cattle, maybe 60 at the most. What the news reports should say is that Bundy is the last "large" rancher in Clark County, not the last rancher.
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Relapse wrote: This may or may not mean anything, just thought I'd put it out here because the Clark County Fair is a big deal when it happens in that area, but there was hardly any traffic to it compared to what there usually is yesterday.
When this thing goes on, the road is choked with traffic during the full run of the fair.
It'll be interesting to see the final numbers on visitors to the fair this year and how it was impacted.
Why do you keep insisting that what is happening between Bundy and the BLM is somehow going to crush the massive wave of tourism that this area supposedly relies on to survive? The land that is impacted by the closing is indeed "public land" but this is how it is described: "The area is remote with limited vehicular access over steep, rugged terrain"
Is the land that Bundy is fighting over in the Valley of Fire? Nope. It also doesn't keep anyone from accessing Lake Meade, so we don't have to worry about that either.
News flash: it won't impact anyone.
Quit trying to drum up all the "but think of the residents!" sympathy over this.
An interesting quote from the article about the Texas land dispute:
"For many, that property has been in their family for generations.
"How can BLM come in and say, "Hey, this isn't yours." Even though it’s patented from the state, you've always paid taxes on it. Our family has paid taxes for over 100 years on this place. We've got a deed to it. But yet they walked in and said it wasn't ours," said Henderson."
Same as nevada ? taken from another web site
The history is telling on this matter. Bundy’s grandfather came to that area of Nevada in 1877 and began to farm and ranch it. He gained preemptive rights to graze there as filed in the court house. He sold his rights to his son and his son sold his rights to his son(Bundy) and we have been brought up to the recent decades. The fees were paid to the local government for years. Some ranchers were accused of over grazing the vast prairie/desert there, so the BLM (Bureau of Land Management, another government alphabet agency) came along and said they would work with the ranchers to help them not over graze the land. The BLM then began to charge a nominal fee to the farmers to cover their costs of maintaining and improving the land. What Bundy began to notice was that the land was not being maintained nor improved. Local ranchers were being pushed out and their lands purchased for pennies on the dollar (with the grazing fees they had previously paid the BLM!). The BLM offered to buy Bundy’s land. Bundy refused, stating it had been in his family since the late 1800s and he intended to pass it on to his children. The BLM became angry with Bundy. They then came back with having to remove him from the land because of the desert tortoise which they claimed was an endangered species. This same tortoise has lived amongst the cattle for 140 years and was not endangered. In fact, the BLM euthenized thousands of desert tortoises because they had overpopulated.
Underlying all of this was the fact that Sen. Reid and his son Rory wanted a Chinese solar company to erect a factory on 9,000 acres there and oil and natural gas supplies were found next to the area.
Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
Relapse wrote: This may or may not mean anything, just thought I'd put it out here because the Clark County Fair is a big deal when it happens in that area, but there was hardly any traffic to it compared to what there usually is yesterday.
When this thing goes on, the road is choked with traffic during the full run of the fair.
It'll be interesting to see the final numbers on visitors to the fair this year and how it was impacted.
Why do you keep insisting that what is happening between Bundy and the BLM is somehow going to crush the massive wave of tourism that this area supposedly relies on to survive? The land that is impacted by the closing is indeed "public land" but this is how it is described: "The area is remote with limited vehicular access over steep, rugged terrain"
Is the land that Bundy is fighting over in the Valley of Fire? Nope. It also doesn't keep anyone from accessing Lake Meade, so we don't have to worry about that either.
News flash: it won't impact anyone.
Quit trying to drum up all the "but think of the residents!" sympathy over this.
The no-fly zone is to keep pilots out of the area because the BLM will be using "low-flying aircraft to herd and capture cattle."
Whatever, Scooty. It is impacting the area financialy, no matter what you try to say.
How exactly is a dispute about some cattle on an isolated plot of land far removed from from the actual tourist destinations in the Moapa Valley impacting the area financially? All you can come up with is some empty talk about "impact" with nothing to back up your statement.
The burden of proof is your hands.
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loki old fart wrote: Same as nevada ? taken from another web site
The history is telling on this matter. Bundy’s grandfather came to that area of Nevada in 1877 and began to farm and ranch it. He gained preemptive rights to graze there as filed in the court house. He sold his rights to his son and his son sold his rights to his son(Bundy) and we have been brought up to the recent decades. The fees were paid to the local government for years. Some ranchers were accused of over grazing the vast prairie/desert there, so the BLM (Bureau of Land Management, another government alphabet agency) came along and said they would work with the ranchers to help them not over graze the land. The BLM then began to charge a nominal fee to the farmers to cover their costs of maintaining and improving the land. What Bundy began to notice was that the land was not being maintained nor improved. Local ranchers were being pushed out and their lands purchased for pennies on the dollar (with the grazing fees they had previously paid the BLM!). The BLM offered to buy Bundy’s land. Bundy refused, stating it had been in his family since the late 1800s and he intended to pass it on to his children. T
I've seen this paragraph elsewhere and I believe there is a sentence missing from it. Specifically, the one right after it, where Bundy stopped paying range fees. He went all sovereign citizen after losing in court, decided that he doesn't have to recognize the federal government, and kept using the land he wasn't paying for the right to be on.
Again, what the government plans to do with the land Bundy has no right to be on is totally, wholly irrelevant.
If I decide that my apartment building isn't doing a good job of maintaining the steps, and stop paying rent, it totally doesn't matter what deal my landlord cut to rent my apartment out to someone else is. I know that you know this and are glossing over it.
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Flinty wrote: The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
Relapse wrote: This may or may not mean anything, just thought I'd put it out here because the Clark County Fair is a big deal when it happens in that area, but there was hardly any traffic to it compared to what there usually is yesterday.
When this thing goes on, the road is choked with traffic during the full run of the fair.
It'll be interesting to see the final numbers on visitors to the fair this year and how it was impacted.
Why do you keep insisting that what is happening between Bundy and the BLM is somehow going to crush the massive wave of tourism that this area supposedly relies on to survive? The land that is impacted by the closing is indeed "public land" but this is how it is described: "The area is remote with limited vehicular access over steep, rugged terrain"
Is the land that Bundy is fighting over in the Valley of Fire? Nope. It also doesn't keep anyone from accessing Lake Meade, so we don't have to worry about that either.
News flash: it won't impact anyone.
Quit trying to drum up all the "but think of the residents!" sympathy over this.
An interesting quote from the article about the Texas land dispute:
"For many, that property has been in their family for generations.
"How can BLM come in and say, "Hey, this isn't yours." Even though it’s patented from the state, you've always paid taxes on it. Our family has paid taxes for over 100 years on this place. We've got a deed to it. But yet they walked in and said it wasn't ours," said Henderson."
Same as nevada ? taken from another web site
The history is telling on this matter. Bundy’s grandfather came to that area of Nevada in 1877 and began to farm and ranch it. He gained preemptive rights to graze there as filed in the court house. He sold his rights to his son and his son sold his rights to his son(Bundy) and we have been brought up to the recent decades. The fees were paid to the local government for years. Some ranchers were accused of over grazing the vast prairie/desert there, so the BLM (Bureau of Land Management, another government alphabet agency) came along and said they would work with the ranchers to help them not over graze the land. The BLM then began to charge a nominal fee to the farmers to cover their costs of maintaining and improving the land. What Bundy began to notice was that the land was not being maintained nor improved. Local ranchers were being pushed out and their lands purchased for pennies on the dollar (with the grazing fees they had previously paid the BLM!). The BLM offered to buy Bundy’s land. Bundy refused, stating it had been in his family since the late 1800s and he intended to pass it on to his children. The BLM became angry with Bundy. They then came back with having to remove him from the land because of the desert tortoise which they claimed was an endangered species. This same tortoise has lived amongst the cattle for 140 years and was not endangered. In fact, the BLM euthenized thousands of desert tortoises because they had overpopulated.
Underlying all of this was the fact that Sen. Reid and his son Rory wanted a Chinese solar company to erect a factory on 9,000 acres there and oil and natural gas supplies were found next to the area.
As I said, even though the case has been going for 20 years, the timing of execution is interesting. The government has no funds for tortoises, but they have the money for this.
Just speculation on my part here, but it wouldn't surprise me to see the ranchers in Texas linking arms with Bundy now and other food producers the BLM is impacting around the country, now that their methods and results are coming more into the national spotlight.
loki old fart wrote: reported elsewhere
"Bu t ... [Reid] and his oldest son, Rory, are involved in an effort by a Chinese energy giant, ENN Energy Group, to build a $5 billion solar farm and panel manufacturing plant in the southern Nevada desert ... His son helped locate a 9,000-acre (3,600-hectare) desert site in Clark County, where Rory Reid formerly chaired the county commission".
These reports are in plain view, the mainstream media has so far ignored this link. The bundy ranch is the only spot that fits the description.
I just realized this is even pants on heady derpier than I thought it was. Did you read the article:
The Langfang, China-based ENN Energy Group hopes to build what would be the largest solar energy complex in America. The site chosen with Rory Reid's guidance is in tiny Laughlin, Nevada, a gambling town of 7,300 along the Colorado River, 90 miles south of Las Vegas.
This is 170 miles south of the Bundy ranching area. It must be a pretty goddamn big facility, huh?
Jesus.
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Flinty wrote: The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
First they came for the Desert Tortoise, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Desert Tortoise.
Then they came for the Feral Cattle, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Feral Cattle.
Then they came for the Ranchers, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Rancher.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.
...because they built a Chinese solar farm on top of the tortoise, shot all the feral cattle, and tazed all the ranchers.
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But that is another thread, so we better behave...
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Kilkrazy wrote: Why has all of this information not been presented in court?
I imagine it probably was, but they still lost.
I find it hard to imagine an American would not reach for his lawyer when a legal dispute arose.
He did and lost...twice.
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Nevada Cattle Rancher Wins 'Range War' With Feds April 12, 2014
By LIZ FIELDS
A Nevada cattle rancher appears to have won his week-long battle with the federal government over a controversial cattle roundup that had led to the arrest of several protesters.
Cliven Bundy went head to head with the Bureau of Land Management over the removal of hundreds of his cattle from federal land, where the government said they were grazing illegally.
Bundy claims his herd of roughly 900 cattle have grazed on the land along the riverbed near Bunkerville, 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas, since 1870 and threatened a "range war" against the BLM on the Bundy Ranch website after one of his sons was arrested while protesting the removal of the cattle.
"I have no contract with the United States government," Bundy said. "I was paying grazing fees for management and that's what BLM was supposed to be, land managers and they were managing my ranch out of business, so I refused to pay."
The federal government had countered that Bundy "owes the American people in excess of $1 million " in unpaid grazing fees and "refuses to abide by the law of land, despite many opportunities over the last 20 years to do so."
However, today the BLM said it would not enforce a court order to remove the cattle and was pulling out of the area.
"Based on information about conditions on the ground, and in consultation with law enforcement, we have made a decision to conclude the cattle gather because of our serious concern about the safety of employees and members of the public," BLM Director Neil Kornze said.
"We ask that all parties in the area remain peaceful and law-abiding as the Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service work to end the operation in an orderly manner," he said.
The roundup began April 5, following lengthy court proceedings dating back to 1993, federal officials said. Federal officers began impounding the first lot of cows last weekend, and Bundy responded by inviting supporters onto his land to protest the action.
"It's not about cows, it's about freedom," Utah resident Yonna Winget told ABC News affiliate KTNV in Las Vegas, Nevada.
"People are getting tired of the federal government having unlimited power," Bundy's wife, Carol Bundy told ABC News.
By Sunday, April 6, one of Bundy's sons, Dave Bundy, was taken into custody for refusing to disperse and resisting arrest, while hundreds of other protesters, some venturing from interstate, gathered along the road few miles from Bundy's property in solidarity. Dave Bundy was later released.
A spokesman for the Bundy encampment told ABC News roughly 300 protesters had assembled for the protest, while a BLM representative estimated there were around 100 people.
"We want a peaceful protest, but we also want our voices heard," said Cliven Bundy's sister, Chrisie Marshall Bundy.
But clashes between demonstrators and authorities took a violent turn on Wednesday, with cell phone video showing some being tasered at the site, including Bundy's son, Ammon Bundy. Two other protesters were detained, cited and later released on Thursday, according to the BLM.
As the movement grew by the day, and demonstrators rallied together, bonding by campfires at night, local protest leaders warned people not to wear camouflage and keep their weapons inside their vehicles.
Both sides said the issue is one of fairness, with the federal government maintaining that thousands of other cattle ranchers are abiding by the law by paying their annual grazing fees, while Bundy's family and supporters say the government's actions are threatening ranchers' freedoms.
"It's about the freedom of America," said another of Bundy's sisters, Margaret Houston. "We have to stand up and fight."
ABC News' Alan Farnham contributed to this report.
So, it looks like if you don't pay your bills and get violent enough, then the rule of law isn't really a big deal. Good to know.
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Ouze wrote: So, it looks like if you don't pay your bills and get violent enough, then the rule of law isn't really a big deal. Good to know.
You know, it's funny that certain people celebrate this because Bundy and his supporters (wrongfully) stood up to the government while threatening violence because they see it as a free exercise of their rights as citizens and at the same time decry people engaging in peaceful protest (in an exercise of their first amendment rights) in favor of a better living wage.
Truly, America is the shining light of freedom in an otherwise dark world.
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ScootyPuffJunior wrote: You know, it's funny that certain people celebrate this because Bundy and his supporters (wrongfully) stood up to the government while threatening violence because they see it as a free exercise of their rights as citizens and at the same time decry people engaging in peaceful protest (in an exercise of their first amendment rights) in favor of a better living wage.
Truly, America is the shining light of freedom in an otherwise dark world.
Too bad these guys hadn't said they were also standing up to wall street, the police would have moved in with pepper spray and flashbangs to the resounding cheers of the same people decrying their jackbooted tactics here.
In any event, now this guys neighbors, who presumably dislike taxation, will be paying a little extra from now on. The Bundy tax, to cover the costs of what he hasn't and won't pay, along with the costs of this aborted roundup.
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Flinty wrote: The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
While that would needlessly escalate things it would probably work...
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