Bloomberg to spend $50 million to challenge NRA on gun safety

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**Dreadclaw69**

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/15/us/bloomberg-gun-safety-initiative/index.html?hpt=ju_c2

(CNN) -- Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg plans to spend $50 million this year through his new group Everytown for Gun Safety to counter the influence of the National Rifle Association, a spokeswoman said Tuesday.

Women, and more particularly moms, will be the key demographic in the outreach to curb gun violence, Everytown for Gun Safety spokeswoman Erika Soto Lamb told CNN.

The news was first reported by the New York Times.
"You've got to work at it piece by piece," Bloomberg told the newspaper. "One mom and another mom. You've got to wear them down until they finally say, 'Enough.'"

Everytown for Gun Safety will serve as an umbrella organization for Bloomberg's two gun control groups -- Mayors Against Illegal Guns and Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America.

The effort will target 15 states. And it will focus more on grass-roots organizing than on television ads, Lamb told CNN.

From gun-friendly states like Texas, Montana and Indiana to states like Colorado and Washington state where gun control initiatives have recently advanced, thanks in large part to the intense lobbying of the NRA.

"I don't want to lay blame anywhere, but it is a reality that the gun lobby has an incredible amount of political influence with members of Congress in Washington," Mark Kelly, a prominent gun control advocate, told CNN in December. Kelly's wife is former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who was severely wounded in a shooting in Arizona in 2011.

"I mean, it's very clear that many members take their cues on this issue from the gun lobby," he said.

According to the New York Times, Bloomberg's strategy will seek to expand the background checks for gun buyers.

So there we go, after numerous failed legislative attempts, cries of 'Won't someone think of the children', demonizing your opponents, the next course of action is just to "wear them down"

**Frazzled**

I look forward to Bloomberg wasting his money.

**TheCustomLime**

Ah, Mayor Bloomberg. Using silly initiatives to promote ineffective solutions to huge social issues. Is 2014 going to be the year of "Think of the Children!!!!!"?

**Daemonhammer**

I sense hostility towards this Mayor Bloomberg.
Shouldnt he get some credit for trying to promote a cause?

But then again, im from Europe and i dont know much about what goes on over on the other side of the Atlantic.

**LordofHats**

It must be nice having $50 million to throw into the wind while laughing gleefully.

He'd get more bang for his buck starting a free gun safety education and training program.

Mayor Bloomberg.

Bloomberg is one of those guys who managed to make enemies on all sides of the aisle. He's been Mayor of New York City since 2002. He was famous for awhile for claiming he cleaned up NYC's crime problem, until everyone realized that was a load of bull and he hadn't actually done anything on that front other than allow the police to do a lot of stupid stuff in the name of reducing crime. This is a good example of the shenanigans.

**WarOne**

Daemonhammer wrote:
I sense hostility towards this Mayor Bloomberg.
Shouldnt he get some credit for trying to promote a cause?

But then again, im from Europe and i dont know much about what goes on over on the other side of the Atlantic.

Bloomberg was/still apparently is a billionaire philanthropist playboy from G̶o̶t̶h̶a̶m̶ New York City who fights crime and cures the ignorant populace of what aims them, specifically their own stupidity.

Here is an image of him:

Examples include limiting the size of soft drinks, directly controlling the education system of a city of eight million (this actually seemed to work), and opposing circumcisions done by Orthodox Jews.

In general, I don't consider him a bad mayor but he has had some interesting moments.

**Relapse**

Daemonhammer wrote:
I sense hostility towards this Mayor Bloomberg.
Shouldnt he get some credit for trying to promote a cause?

But then again, im from Europe and i dont know much about what goes on over on the other side of the Atlantic.

Since 8 times more people die yearly from alcohol related causes here than from guns, perhaps Bloomburg should put his efforts there.

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LordofHats wrote:
It must be nice having $50 million to throw into the wind while laughing gleefully.

He'd get more bang for his buck starting a free gun safety education and training program.

Mayor Bloomberg.

Bloomberg is one of those guys who managed to make enemies on all sides of the aisle. He's been Mayor of New York City since 2002. He was famous for awhile for claiming he cleaned up NYC's crime problem, until everyone realized that was a load of bull and he hadn't actually done anything on that front other than allow the police to do a lot of stupid stuff in the name of reducing crime. This is a good example of the shenanigans.

How did he stay mayor for so long?

**kronk**

Relapse wrote:

How did he stay mayor for so long?

He can call up 50 million to spend on gun propaganda at the drop of a hat...

**LordofHats**

What Kronk said. That, and frankly, he's pretty effective in his job. His handling of the NYPD has just allowed a poorly run police department to sink further into the depths of madness.

We'll probably see him as a Republican candidate in the primaries come 2016.

**Kanluwen**

Relapse wrote:
Daemonhammer wrote:
I sense hostility towards this Mayor Bloomberg.
Shouldnt he get some credit for trying to promote a cause?

But then again, im from Europe and i dont know much about what goes on over on the other side of the Atlantic.

Since 8 times more people die yearly from alcohol related causes here than from guns, perhaps Bloomburg should put his efforts there.

Continually suggesting that "X kills more than Y, so leave Y alone" does not mean that you should just ignore Y...especially when X is taking into account things like a lifetime of heavy drinking, alcohol related motor vehicle accidents, pharmacological interactions between alcohol and medication.

**d-usa**

WarOne wrote:
Daemonhammer wrote:
I sense hostility towards this Mayor Bloomberg.
Shouldnt he get some credit for trying to promote a cause?

But then again, im from Europe and i dont know much about what goes on over on the other side of the Atlantic.

Bloomberg was/still apparently is a billionaire philanthropist playboy from G̶o̶t̶h̶a̶m̶ New York City who fights crime and cures the ignorant populace of what aims them, specifically their own stupidity.

Here is an image of him:

Examples include limiting the size of soft drinks, directly controlling the education system of a city of eight million (this actually seemed to work), and opposing circumcisions done by Orthodox Jews.

In general, I don't consider him a bad mayor but he has had some interesting moments.

He also managed to make sure his car would never pollute his fine city while idling, and still managed to be able to step into a nice cold car every time he had to stop somewhere:

**Relapse**

LordofHats wrote:
What Kronk said. That, and frankly, he's pretty effective in his job. His handling of the NYPD has just allowed a poorly run police department to sink further into the depths of madness.

We'll probably see him as a Republican candidate in the primaries come 2016.

Scary.

**Dreadclaw69**

Kanluwen wrote:
Continually suggesting that "X kills more than Y, so leave Y alone" does not mean that you should just ignore Y...especially when X is taking into account things like a lifetime of heavy drinking, alcohol related motor vehicle accidents, pharmacological interactions between alcohol and medication.

How about when the figures for Y include justifiable homicides, suicides, illegal acts, and actions from those people who are not permitted to possess Y?

**Seaward**

LordofHats wrote:
We'll probably see him as a Republican candidate in the primaries come 2016.

And is Rush Limbaugh going to run as a Democrat? Conservatives loathe Bloomberg.

**easysauce**

Yeah.... gun control activists always conveinently ignore that guns save Y amount of lives, and are in volved with x amount of deaths, with x being much much smaller then Y.

Getting rid of somthing that does more good then harm is just silly.

A much more honest, less disingenuous approach would be to mitigate the bad parts while promoting the good parts, IE promote gun safety instead of gun abstinence, as the NRA does.

Bloom berg may as well be teaching abstinence only birth control while going around having unprotected sex with hookers (because of course, HE has armed guards, because guns are OK to protect him, just not you lowly peons)

Its unfortunate that people on the anti gun side keep ignoring the fact that guns save hundreds of thousands of lives each year in america, and keep repeating ad nausing "guns dont protect people, because I am ignoring those hundreds of thousands of people they protect"

**LordofHats**

Seaward wrote:
And is Rush Limbaugh going to run as a Democrat? Conservatives loathe Bloomberg.

Is he a democrate (Bloomberg). I thought he was one of those Republicans who ran as a Republican because he couldn't get on the Democrat ticket (like Romney). EDIT: Oh, apparently he's been both XD

**Seaward**

LordofHats wrote:
Seaward wrote:
And is Rush Limbaugh going to run as a Democrat? Conservatives loathe Bloomberg.

Is he a democrate (Bloomberg). I thought he was one of those Republicans who ran as a Republican because he couldn't get on the Democrat ticket (like Romney). EDIT: Oh, apparently he's been both XD

He's one of those guys who float around nebulously in the middle in terms of labeling, and has positions all over the map - though they all could be described as authoritarian and pro-big government. Regardless of what he calls himself, I hope he gets genital warts.

**Daemonhammer**

WarOne wrote:

Bloomberg was/still apparently is a billionaire philanthropist playboy from G̶o̶t̶h̶a̶m̶ New York City who fights crime and cures the ignorant populace of what aims them, specifically their own stupidity.

Here is an image of him:

Examples include limiting the size of soft drinks, directly controlling the education system of a city of eight million (this actually seemed to work), and opposing circumcisions done by Orthodox Jews.

In general, I don't consider him a bad mayor but he has had some interesting moments.

...But i like Batman and i dont like circumcision...

To be serious, he sounds more like someone who would support NRA than oppose them.

And whats his problem with soft drinks?

**Dreadclaw69**

easysauce wrote:
Yeah.... gun control activists always conveinently ignore that guns save Y amount of lives, and are in volved with x amount of deaths, with x being much much smaller then Y.

Getting rid of somthing that does more good then harm is just silly.

A much more honest, less disingenuous approach would be to mitigate the bad parts while promoting the good parts, IE promote gun safety instead of gun abstinence, as the NRA does.

Bloom berg may as well be teaching abstinence only birth control while going around having unprotected sex with hookers (because of course, HE has armed guards, because guns are OK to protect him, just not you lowly peons)

Its unfortunate that people on the anti gun side keep ignoring the fact that guns save hundreds of thousands of lives each year in america, and keep repeating ad nausing "guns dont protect people, because I am ignoring those hundreds of thousands of people they protect"

But if we ban guns and make them illegal then no one will ever be able to get a gun. Just look at what happened when we criminalized drugs.

**kronk**

Daemonhammer wrote:

And whats his problem with soft drinks?

He said large soft drinks are making people fat and had a law passed banning them over X ounces (have no idea). However, you can still buy lots of smaller soft drinks, so that's really just pissing in the wind.

Was he mayor when they banned Transfats in New York?

**Dreadclaw69**

kronk wrote:
He said large soft drinks are making people fat. However, you can still buy lots of smaller soft drinks, so that's really just pissing in the wind.

You clever soda drinkers, exploiting loopholes

**LordofHats**

...But i like Batman and i dont like circumcision...
To be serious, he sounds more like someone who would support NRA than oppose them.

And whats his problem with soft drinks?

Bloomy is a populist, which probably explains his party flip flopping too. He picks the positions that suit his needs. It's why he can still be mayor after a decade and why he'll probably never make it in national politics. His portfolio is so specifically built to appeal to New Yorkers that he's unlikely to gain traction anywhere else.

**Daemonhammer**

kronk wrote:

He said large soft drinks are making people fat and had a law passed banning them over X ounces (have no idea). However, you can still buy lots of smaller soft drinks, so that's really just pissing in the wind.

Well following his logic, shouldnt large meals at fast food restaurants be outlawed too?

**kronk**

Don't forget all you can eat buffets.

First they came for the large sodas, and I said nothing.

Then they came for the Transfats, and I said nothing.

Then they came for the all you can eat buffets, and I still said nothing.

Then they came for the Mountain Dew and neckbeards everywhere were up in arms!!!

**Kanluwen**

Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Continually suggesting that "X kills more than Y, so leave Y alone" does not mean that you should just ignore Y...especially when X is taking into account things like a lifetime of heavy drinking, alcohol related motor vehicle accidents, pharmacological interactions between alcohol and medication.

How about when the figures for Y include justifiable homicides, suicides, illegal acts, and actions from those people who are not permitted to possess Y?

...which still does not realistically change the point I made as using alcohol related deaths to compare to gun related deaths is an exercise in statistical shenanigans. It's as bad as the comparisons with deaths related to motor vehicles.

easysauce wrote:Bloomberg may as well be teaching abstinence only birth control while going around having unprotected sex with hookers (because of course, HE has armed guards, because guns are OK to protect him, just not you lowly peons)

I absolutely love how in your post you talk about being disingenuous while posting this nonsense.

**Frazzled**

LordofHats wrote:
What Kronk said. That, and frankly, he's pretty effective in his job. His handling of the NYPD has just allowed a poorly run police department to sink further into the depths of madness.

We'll probably see him as a Republican candidate in the primaries come 2016.

Only in your dreams. He would get run out on a rail if he even showed up. He's everything that typifies Yankee Nanny Stater.

**Palindrome**

easysauce wrote:

Getting rid of something that does more good then harm is just silly.

Indeed, its just a shame that the US system of 'gun control' is extremely unlikely to do more good than harm, especially when firearms are apparently to be used for 'self defense' which of course means going to the supermarket armed.

**LordofHats**

Oh there's already talk about him running 2016 again. I don't expect him to win, especially now that he's apparently an indepenent. They never win

**Frazzled**

kronk wrote:
Daemonhammer wrote:

And whats his problem with soft drinks?

He said large soft drinks are making people fat and had a law passed banning them over X ounces (have no idea). However, you can still buy lots of smaller soft drinks, so that's really just pissing in the wind.

Was he mayor when they banned Transfats in New York?

yes.

**kronk**

The Mayor of New York hates Fat People!

And Guns!

And don't get him started on Fat People with Guns! FPG's unite!