40k 7th Edition release 24th may - All info in 1st post, psychic power cards added (5/21)

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**SickSix**

namiel wrote:
I have it on good authority that a 6.5 is coming this summer. Weather it be may or not I can't say but it will still be 6th edition, maybe very very minor tweaks but nothing more then making things all inclusive in one book. A new starter set is very probable with the rumors of irks and blood angels making sense since both are needing updates BUT their is a 50/50 shot the starter box will not have a small rulebook. It may only contain quick start rules for very basic play.

The only reason I have actually bought into all of this is it makes sense with what games workshop has been doing. Odds say with a new book that is just all inclusive with all of the supplements they will either repack the starter to not include a book or they will make a new starter. Why wouldn't they make a new starter to boost sales of 2 probable upcoming releases. Dark vengeance has run its course and for current players all of us who are going to buy the starter have, for new players it doesn't matter. So why not make a new starter for those of us currently in the hobby to buy 3-4 of like many of us do. It just seems common sense to me or we could be all way off.

9th ed for fantasy is ready and I wouldn't be suprised to see it drop this fall. I'd say Oct for the Christmas season

I believe this. It isn't 7th edition, it's 6.5. It will just be a more inclusive RB with all the expansions included with some FAQ updates and maybe some data slates. It won't be a new edition.

**Accolade**

Mr Morden wrote:
If its true thats a very dismal starter set in terms of the contents....not even a blast marker and full rules - very poor

I think GW has realized they could extract more money from customers if they don't sell full rules in the starter box. After all, it's just a starter! Right? Guys?

**Paradigm**

Hmm, don't like the sound of this unless it's just minor tweaks, and I certainly won't be buying the big rulebook this time. I don't need to pay £45 for a bunch of recycled fluff and some rules changes with, with any luck, will fit on a side of A4 paper.

On the other hand, cheap BA assault marines, especially if they're on par with the DV DA sculpts, will certainly be enough to get my woefully undermanned Blood Angels back into some sort of usable state.

**Young_Logan**

I can confirm that they have been taken of the shelves and no longer sell in store in the UK as I was in this afternoon as was told about this as I am a regular and that we are told to look to the white dwarf to tell us more in the up coming weeks.

**Azreal13**

Young_Logan wrote:
I can confirm that they have been taken of the shelves and no longer sell in store in the UK as I was in this afternoon as was told about this as I am a regular and that we are told to look to the white dwarf to tell us more in the up coming weeks.

Blimey! Which is you local store that opens on a Monday? They're rare animals!

**Young_Logan**

Southampton, they're closed on tuesdays and wednesdays here. Although I wish they were closed mondays and open wednesdays but what can you do.

**whembly**

Hmmm... interestingly, you can't place the rule book in the online cart.

Must be for realz?

I'm digging it since the next Ork codex would be 7th ed "ready".

**Accolade**

Does GW notify FLGS of these product changes?

**Azreal13**

Young_Logan wrote:
Southampton, they're closed on tuesdays and wednesdays here. Although I wish they were closed mondays and open wednesdays but what can you do.

Yeah, ours is closed Sun/Mon and opens late and closes early cause the manager has to catch trains from 50 miles away.

One man stores FTW!

Still, nice to have some sort of in-store correlation with the rumour and the webstore.

**MeanGreenStompa**

Accolade wrote:
Does GW notify FLGS of these product changes?

No.

Just 'product not available', which could mean a redo, a new launch, an availability issue or the item becoming direct only.

**Ralis**

I really hope they include a mini-rulebook in the new "starter" that would be the biggest reason for me to buy the thing, considering I don't play BA or Ork.

Assuming that rumor is true after all.

**Eldarain**

whembly wrote:

I'm digging it since the next Ork codex would be 7th ed "ready".

As long as it's not "new edition ready" like CSM was.

**BlaxicanX**

Frankly, I don't think we'll be seeing any rules "tweaks", per say. What we'll see is the Escalation/dataslate/formation expansion stuff get rolled into the main book, and the "rules tweaks" will be them explaining that this is all apart of standard 40K and this is how it works. And that's it.

Games Workshop realizing that their game is broken on a fundamental level and taking a proactive measure to fix it would be displaying a level of competence that I have yet to see from them since I jumped into the game mid-5th edition.

**Accolade**

MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Accolade wrote:
Does GW notify FLGS of these product changes?

No.

Just 'product not available', which could mean a redo, a new launch, an availability issue or the item becoming direct only.

Lovely.

Ralis wrote:I really hope they include a mini-rulebook in the new "starter" that would be the biggest reason for me to buy the thing, considering I don't play BA or Ork.

Assuming that rumor is true after all.

I have a feeling personally that the new starter set will only provide a dumbed-down version of the rules. This will force people to pay an additional ~$75 for the large rulebook.

If this does come to pass, I wonder how it will affect starter set sales in the future...

**Morathi's Darkest Sin**

More likely they plan on releasing a mini rulebook as a stand alone product this time, after the limited one they did for 6th.

**vadersson**

Interesting. I hope it lands soon. I finally decide to give Warhammer 40K a try and I land in the middle of rules limbo.

I would love a BA vs Orks starter. I kind of want an Ork army and I have 3rd ed Space Hulk so I already have some Blood Angel Terminators.

I guess we will see soon.

The removal of the core rulebook from On-line is a kind of interesting development. Certainly makes this look more true.
Thanks,
Duncan

**pretre**

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
More likely they plan on releasing a mini rulebook as a stand alone product this time, after the limited one they did for 6th.

That wasn't a mini-rulebook though. That was a rules-only copy of the hardcover.

**Morathi's Darkest Sin**

Ah, my mistake. Although it does make awful sense for them to release it as a stand alone.

**Azreal13**

It's format was decidedly more 'mini' than not.

**kronk**

I'm curious to see what they'll do to the ally matrix more than anything else. I guess we have to wait and see.

**Kroothawk**

pretre wrote:
Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
More likely they plan on releasing a mini rulebook as a stand alone product this time, after the limited one they did for 6th.

That wasn't a mini-rulebook though. That was a rules-only copy of the hardcover.

... what we call a mini-rulebook for years

**Vankraken**

I'm going to laugh and maybe cry a little on the inside if the new ork codex (if it is indeed next) needs a day 1 FAQ/errata because it was written with the 6th edition rules. Also if this is true orks will be 3 editions behind

**marv335**

Personally I think all they're going to do is fold in the current FAQ/Errata into the rules along with escalation etc.
It's not going to be a new ruleset, just combining the rules we already have.

**Anpu42**

I have heard so many diffrent things about this, so I am taking everything with a HUGE Grain of Salt.

**tetrisphreak**

I'm eager to see what comes of 7th. If we get a refined pancake edition, that would be amazing.

**NamelessBard**

I think we'll see the removal of allies.

As a business perspective, flipping every two years is enough time for someone to start with an ally detachment then move into a full army after they can't be taken as allies. Then 8th ed comes and allies are back in.

**whembly**

Anpu42 wrote:
I have heard so many diffrent things about this, so I am taking everything with a HUGE Grain of Salt.

Keep in mind that the current rule books is "No Longer Available" on GW's site.

That's a pretty solid indication imo.

**pretre**

whembly wrote:
Anpu42 wrote:
I have heard so many diffrent things about this, so I am taking everything with a HUGE Grain of Salt.

Keep in mind that the current rule books is "No Longer Available" on GW's site.

That's a pretty solid indication imo.

Or they ran out of stock and are reprinting. NLA on the site has traditionally been seen as a 'OMG CONFIRMED' indicator and hasn't been in a lot of cases.

**Accolade**

True, pretre. But at least we have Young_Logan's encounter at his local GW to support the upcoming release.

**Gorlack**

The french, dutch and what not versions seem to still be available...

Edit: scratch that. It was 30 minutes ago when I checked from work, but unavailable now. I guess that's actually a good sign then