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A source on faeit212 claims release date for 7th 40k edition is 31st May, preorder date 24th May.

(now) older rumrors:
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anonymous source on Faeit 212 wrote:i can confirm that 7th edition will be released on 24th of may. As off today all rulebooks are removed from the shop floors and known lossed.
(...)
I think the pre order date for the new rule book is the 24th. So sale on the week after. Most shops should have a poster with a commissar on it in there shops. And the date 24th war is coming or something in those lines.

6th edition rulebook and starter box confirmed to be OOP in all languages.
 Young_Logan wrote:
I can confirm that they have been taken of the shelves and no longer sell in store in the UK as I was in this afternoon as was told about this as I am a regular and that we are told to look to the white dwarf to tell us more in the up coming weeks.

 xttz wrote:
I'm hearing elsewhere that there was a UK GW managers meeting yesterday, during which they were told to remove 6E rulebook from shelves in preparation for a new one at the end of May. Unsurprisingly, this isn't a popular move even among store managers, as they know how much of a customer backlash will be heading their way.
They've also been told to continue selling Dark Vengeance, but once the new BRB drops they have to put a sticker on the box that says the rules inside aren't current.

Jimmy Ellwood over at Warseer wrote:Just seen an email sent to all GW store managers at 8.40pm last night advising them to remove the 40k rulebook from their stores on Wednesday as it isn't to be sold anymore. If customers ask for it they are to advise them to check out white dwarf.

All the UK store managers are in their managers meeting today so I am sure will be getting their full brief on what is happening.

I have heard more indications that indeed:
1.) New edition is coming end of the month
2.) 6th edition rulebook and starter box are OOP
3.) New starter will be BA vs. Orks.
4.) Escalation and stronghold are included in the new rulebook.
 krazynadechukr wrote:
It's called 7th edition, over 500 pages, escalation is in it, it's $99.99 usd, and new templates are also coming out along side it.


GW teaser video, added 5/4:
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Added 5/5:
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From Natfka:

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
The FoC chart is still in the new 40k edition and if you follow it you have what is known as a "Battle Forged" army. It awards (unlisted) bonuses for using the FoC.You can also take a unbound army, these allow you to take whatever you want from your collection and toss out the FoC (while still adhering to unit size and heeding the relationships described in the new Allies Matrix.

Another thing is objective cards, so the objectives of the game can change each turn. The deck will be 36 cards.

There is also a physic phase confirmed now. A pool of warp charge dice is created at the start of the psychic phase, equal to 1d6 + mastery lvl of psychers. You can use as many dice as you like, but increase risk of perils of the warp (which is now a table you roll on.) Enemy psychers can draw on warp charge pool to Deny the Witch and nulify powers.

Also Eternal warrior missions still exist but in addition there are 6 new Maelstrom of War Missions.

via another anonymous source on Faeit 212
Additional information that a Battle Forged list can take as many detachments as they wish, and still get bonus's.. The Unbound lists, is very much whatever you want to throw in to do a battle, and you get to choose which you want to play, and your opponent can do the same.


WD confirmation, added 5/5:
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additional WD info, added 5/7:
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This may be in wrong bit, but as its not a rumour(WD official text) and its not news I wasn't sure, but move if needs be mods

A mate just showed me this picture on FB:



Read the red box text, second paragraph of text, basically Ezekial like the possession......hmmmm


Update of actual release date & additional WD info, added 5/8:
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 mikhaila wrote:
I just got off the phone with my GW rep. No real new info, but he did state "pre-orders on the 17th and product on the 24th".


Another excerpt from the same issue of WD:
Warhammer 40,000 In the Bunker

With a new edition of Warhammer 40,000 on the horizon, Jes, Dan an Adam locked themselves in the hobby room with games designer Robin Cruddace to try out the new game mechanics.

Dan and Robin teamed up in a desperate alliance of Tau and Space marines, which led to many sideways glances and shifty manoeuvres. Adam and Jes chose Tyranids and had no such problems, chomping their way through everything in their path to steal most of the strategic objectives. In the end, the battle came down to a signle combat between Dan's Riptide and Adam's Hive Tyrant (who was worth a possible four victory points). Sadly, though not unexpectedly, the Hive Tyrant won.



More rumors, added 5/11:
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 Pox Apostle wrote:
So, last night someone from The Overlords Podcast group on Facebook posted these tidbits. Hopefully they don't mind if they're posted elsewhere. There's some interesting things to chew on here.

-- So Guys I heard from a pretty reliable source that got to sit down with the book for a few minutes here is what I can remember from what was said.

1. 4ed consolidate in to combat is in
2. If you fail to cast a power you can't cast it the rest of the game
3. Every unit including vehicles will now score
4. Unbound armies may not contest objectives
5. Lords of war are in
6. Escalation and stronghold remaine as they are now
7. Vehicles will be harder to kill the chart changes once more.
8. The book will come out in 3 options Art like warhammer visions, Fluff book, and one that only contains rules and that one is about as think as the current SM book.
9.difficult terrain is just -2 inches
10. Wound allocation has changed a bit.not super clear as to how.
11. D-weapons toned down but he was unclear as what that meant so from the sounds of it they will still be super ugly. --


GW full announcement video, screen caps & more rumors, added 5/12:
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 AkharaVect wrote:



Looks good to me!



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 pretre wrote:
slaede wrote:
http://daemons40k.blogspot.com/2014/05/i-have-some-7th-edition-infos-psychic.html

My FLGS manager got some info out of his GW rep. Apparently they can spill the beans now, but I only got a bit of new infos about the psychic phase.

At least paste the information... edit: Ahh, he wants blog hits.

I spoke with my FLGS guy who talked to the GW rep this morning. Not all of my questions were answered, but here is what I heard that is not something already all over the internet. This assumes the GW rep had his facts straight, and the FLGS guy relayed them correctly via the game of telephone.


Battle Brothers

Eldar/DE
Chaos/Daemons
All Imperium

All others were convenience, desperate or apocalypse.

No answer as to whether you can join units of battle brothers.

Psychic Phase

Roll a D6 and add the total mastery levels of all your psykers. You get that many power dice and your opponent gets that many DTW dice.

To cast a power, you need to roll a 4+ for every warp charge of the power you're using. So warp charge 2 = two 4+, meaning you'd need 4 power dice to have an average shot.

Your opponent dispels the power with a roll of a 6 on their dice. So the more dice they have, the more shots they get at rolling that 6 to cancel out that critical power. I was told that the mastery level of the psyker dispelling the power lowers the roll needed to dispel it. So a ML2 psyker dispels on a 5+, ML3 on a 4+. etc...

That is what I was told.

That seems wrong to me because Fateweaver, Eldrad and Ahriman could dispel anything on a 3+. More likely, I would think you compare mastery levels between the casting psyker and the dispelling psyker, and apply a bonus that way. This is conjecture. What I wrote above is what I was told.

What I also don't know is if there is a dice limit a psyker can use to cast or dispel a power based on their mastery level. I also don't know if you need two 6's to dispel a ML2 power. I assume you do.

You would figure Adamantium Will would give you +1 to DTW for powers cast at a unit with that rule.

Jink Save

Jink is a 4+, however it is no longer always on. You must declare a jink to claim it, and if you do so, it's snapshots only in the next phase.

Sweeping Advance

Unchanged. You do not consolidate into a new combat.

And that's all I got that's new! So you can go runtelldat.



May 13th


Spoiler:

Dark Vengeance
The Dark Vengeance box
set currently contains a
copy of the rules from
the last edition of
Warhammer 40 000 -
rest assured that in the
near future this will be
updated to contain the
new edition of The Rules
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16th May

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 ClockworkZion wrote:
From the Blog for the Blood God Facebook page (rehosted to make life easier when it comes to embedding these pics):











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Here the previous thread:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/570012.page
even older rumours from there:
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40k Radio wrote:The big 40k rumor is: This summer GW will release 7th edition 40k , and 9th edition Fantasy has been shelved, for now.
(...)
All right before all of you blow us up step back and take a deep breath. This is from the source that have us pictures of the Space Marines and the Codex a month early. Also gave us pics of the Dark Elves which we described accurately a month early. Also gave us the info on the Sentinels of Terra. He also let us know that Nids were in January NOT December like so many other rumors sites predicted. So yeah he has been very accurate with the info he has given us. They way it was explained to us is that 7th Edition will be made to include the new Escalation and Stronghold rules. I would also not be surprised to see the Dataslates added to the main rule book.

Yes this is a rumor at this stage so take it with a grain of salt. But then again everything out source has said has come true. Only time will tell. Have a Merry Christmas with your families and don't let this put a knot in your undies.

anymous source on faeit212 wrote:40k 7th edition and the new starter kit Beachhead Stygia. It is small kit, with only five scouts, five blood angels, a commander with jump pack, five meganobs, 10 armoured ork shootas including a nob with two-handed axe and 10 gretchins. There are some destroyed columns, destroyed gothic stone walls and a three-piece stone bridge carried by gargoyles. It has a 96 page book, but only about the half is used for rules including three scenarios. Expert rules like all vehicle-related stuff are omitted completely. There are a handful of dice, a ruler, but no blast markers.

At the same time, there will be a new starter painting kit with 10 snapfit miniatures that will bring the tactical marines from the starter box to a full squad size and gives the ork player 5 additional boyz. It has a 48 page booklet with additional scenarios and hobby guides, brushes, basing sand and glue.

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I believe it is coming, it just isnt going to fix the game like everyone thinks

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The starter box sounds really cool. I would almost certainly get one, especially if the sculpts are as great as DV.

   
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Since it was in the other thread, I figure I'll ask here too: has anyone visited any GW stores to confirm they have stopped selling the rulebook?
   
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I don't buy it...

...and even if true, I won't buy it

   
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Hmm, if the Blood Angels scouts and Assault marines are iconography over them I have a BA playing mate who will be very happy. I'd be after multiple boxes just for MANz.

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 Flashman wrote:
I don't buy it...

...and even if true, I won't buy it


Although I will definitely pick up that starter if the Orks are DV quality, I don't think I'll be rushing into buying any new edition of the rulebook since my purchase of the LE was only two years ago...
   
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Oh man........ Not ANOTHER edition of rules to remember. Hopefully its just like a patch of sorts?

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 Accolade wrote:
Since it was in the other thread, I figure I'll ask here too: has anyone visited any GW stores to confirm they have stopped selling the rulebook?


Can't confirm in store (its Monday, GW UK stores don't usually do Mondays) but the "Availability" line is missing from the GWUK site.

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I definitely think it's true that this is coming. 40k radio has been spot on.

Curious if the changes are just minor consolidations or what, though.
   
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I am really trying to temper any excitement i have about them "fixing" things.


   
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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I believe it is coming, it just isnt going to fix the game like everyone thinks


I'm in general agreement with this. I think some issues in the game will be addressed, but it'll probably be narrative-focused like 6th, and not the tight, tourney-ready ruleset that some clamor for. And I'd be fine with that. I've completely come to terms with 6th edition's general approach.

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I have it on good authority that a 6.5 is coming this summer. Weather it be may or not I can't say but it will still be 6th edition, maybe very very minor tweaks but nothing more then making things all inclusive in one book. A new starter set is very probable with the rumors of irks and blood angels making sense since both are needing updates BUT their is a 50/50 shot the starter box will not have a small rulebook. It may only contain quick start rules for very basic play.

The only reason I have actually bought into all of this is it makes sense with what games workshop has been doing. Odds say with a new book that is just all inclusive with all of the supplements they will either repack the starter to not include a book or they will make a new starter. Why wouldn't they make a new starter to boost sales of 2 probable upcoming releases. Dark vengeance has run its course and for current players all of us who are going to buy the starter have, for new players it doesn't matter. So why not make a new starter for those of us currently in the hobby to buy 3-4 of like many of us do. It just seems common sense to me or we could be all way off.

9th ed for fantasy is ready and I wouldn't be suprised to see it drop this fall. I'd say Oct for the Christmas season

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6th edition rulebook removed from sale for 2 hours.

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 azreal13 wrote:
 Accolade wrote:
Since it was in the other thread, I figure I'll ask here too: has anyone visited any GW stores to confirm they have stopped selling the rulebook?


Can't confirm in store (its Monday, GW UK stores don't usually do Mondays) but the "Availability" line is missing from the GWUK site.


Oh right, it's Monday, most GW stores are closed...

I think the fact that 7th most likely won't be a rules tune-up makes me feel that its even MORE of a cashgrab.

Honestly, what purpose could it serve if it's not tightening the rule set up? Do we need a couple new pages of USRs?

EDIT: like a couple others have said I guess it could just be 6.5. I'm not excited that Escalation will become truly integral to the core rules if that is the case though.

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while in theory I'd welcome a 7th edition (as 6th is a gigantic mess), unless it's a major reboot, I don't think it's going to do what anyone really wants it to. Half of what needs fixing won't get fixed, half of what gets fixed will get fixed badly, and half of what didn't need changing will get borked.

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No Longer available

On UK Site.
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The rule book will be $80, full color hardback. It will contain tons of pictures of all the minatures, explain the lore and the fluff, and demonstrate several kinds of special scenarios.

As for rules, it will be 1 page explaining a D6, and then 60 blank pages for you to write your own rules for the game so you can forge your own narrative with an ultimate freedom like never before.

   
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As for rules, it will be 1 page explaining a D6, and then 60 blank pages for you to write your own rules for the game so you can forge your own narrative with an ultimate freedom like never before.

Zweischneid will be thrilled.

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That's what 7th edition is about. Yelling "Forge the Narrative Pussy!" while kicking your opponent in the dick.
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Hmm. I was suspect about this whole 7th edition business, but I guess we'll see. 2 years for 6th edition may make it the shortest edition yet.

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I think, a new edition after less than 2 years would be suicidal to 40k and showing, how desperate GW is.
I have absolutely no confidence that a new edition would fix any of the current problems, as the same team of authors has just created those problems, e.g. pushing Apocalypse units down everyone's throat in normal games.

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I think there's too many unknowns to say if it will be 'suicidal' yet. If it is really 6.5 with everything put together, I don't think it will be a big deal. If it fixes/faqs issues and makes things more cohesive, I think it will be well received.

If it is a whole new edition, it probably won't go well. Unless, of course, it is that crazy salty 40k/fantasy combo edition and then who knows.

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Maybe 2 years of 6th was just buying time to polish the pancake edition? 7th will the best evah!

I jest, but wouldn't put it past GW to just buy time in this way.

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Well, at least that would show their true colors instead of appealing to competitive just enough to keep them spending money.

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 Jidmah wrote:
Well, at least that would show their true colors instead of appealing to competitive just enough to keep them spending money.

Umm. Are you missing some nouns in there?

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If its true thats a very dismal starter set in terms of the contents....not even a blast marker and full rules - very poor

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If its true thats a very dismal starter set in terms of the contents....not even a blast marker and full rules - very poor

Keep in mind that the starter set rumor is from Natfka. 40kradio, on the other hand, is pretty reliable.

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