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2014/04/28 18:43:43
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
Assuming they're not just "updating" 6th edition and re-releasing it with all the appropiate erratas and slapping the codex expansions in their and maybe tweaking things a little, agreed. A revised rulebook would be reason enough to pull the old one after all.
...
If the changes are extensive enough to require players to buy a new book, it's a new edition.
If there isn't a cheap book available, well...
It all depends on what they do. If they give us a full errata that covers all the changes at the same time then we're good. If they don't then it's a "new edition".
Also it will be very bad if there is a new starter box that does not contain the full rules.
them offering a hardcover "rules only" book is a very GW thing to do. Getting a quick start guide to playing so that you can still have the idea of a game in a box is what gw wants new customers to buy. It gets them into the hobby at what I consider reasonable, $99(assuming it has the rules, which it wont). After that they drop the big bomb saying now you want to play the real game you have to drop another $70 after someone is already invested(which is bogus). The reason gw can do this is because of their retail sales style. No other company has retail stores(that I know of) and not only do they not have stores but gw places stores where they get a large amount of foot traffic. They want people to see the store, come in try a demo, and buy the starter. No other company offers that. Sure their are game stores out there but your FLGS generally doesn't have such set ups. If people interested in miniatures games were interested before they saw a gw they would end up at the "out of the way" FLGS but that's not the market GW is trying to grab.
A new book that is 6.5 that brings all of the supplements together, with a minor price hike, is what makes the most sense. Since most of the current players already spent the money on the supplements that cash cow is dead. How to create a new one? New starter set for new books coming out (blood angels and orks) and no longer offering rules inside the starter box forcing all players to spend the extra money on the real rule book. Also not allowing play in the stores without using a new ruleset. Gw doesn't allow old books to be used in their stores thus anyone who games at GW stores now has to buy the book as well.
RoperPG wrote: Blimey, it's very salty in here...
Any more vegans want to put forth their opinions on bacon?
2014/04/28 18:49:57
Subject: Re:40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
Breaking news guys! The information for the 7th Ed. book has been released!
Spoiler:
''The Warhammer 40,000 Rulebook is your essential guide to playing atmospheric battles in the 41st Millennium. It helps you field majestic armies of Citadel miniatures across the war-ravaged battlefields of the far-future, in the ultimate contest of strategy and skill.
With 440 full-colour pages with blank spaces to forge your own narrative, this hardback Rulebook is packed with absolutely no complex background to keep the younger and the mentally challenged happy and contains none of the rules for fighting pulse-pounding tabletop battles that you would expect. Instead we have given players the freedom to forge narrative rules to help them squeeze the cheese of victory from between the salty teats of Slaanesh! The Rulebook includes exciting features such as being soft and chewable, big pictures with minimal text and even more plastic porn. As well as jaw-dropping artwork produced by our trained monkeys smearing feces on paper, contained within is a basic history of the 41st Millennium and a richly detailed guide to the races and weapons of the far-future. It also features a comprehensive hobby section which is set out like a catalogue to set you on the path to choosing, paying extortionate amounts and building your own Pokédex of Warhammer 40,000 Citadel miniatures.''
Thousand Sons: 3850pts / Space Marines Deathwatch 5000pts / Dark Eldar Webway Corsairs 2000pts / Scrapheap Challenged Orks 1500pts / Black Death 1500pts
One apple ID can support up to 10 devices, so 9 of your buddies and yourself can all have a full interactive codex for less then $6 each (more so with cheap iTunes cards).
Also if GW screws up and falsely advertises it like they did with the army builder feature for marines, you can get the book for free.
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
2014/04/28 18:53:09
Subject: Re:40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
Breaking news guys! The information for the 7th Ed. book has been released!
Spoiler:
''The Warhammer 40,000 Rulebook is your essential guide to playing atmospheric battles in the 41st Millennium. It helps you field majestic armies of Citadel miniatures across the war-ravaged battlefields of the far-future, in the ultimate contest of strategy and skill.
With 440 full-colour pages with blank spaces to forge your own narrative, this hardback Rulebook is packed with absolutely no complex background to keep the younger and the mentally challenged happy and contains none of the rules for fighting pulse-pounding tabletop battles that you would expect. Instead we have given players the freedom to forge narrative rules to help them squeeze the cheese of victory from between the salty teats of Slaanesh! The Rulebook includes exciting features such as being soft and chewable, big pictures with minimal text and even more plastic porn. As well as jaw-dropping artwork produced by our trained monkeys smearing feces on paper, contained within is a basic history of the 41st Millennium and a richly detailed guide to the races and weapons of the far-future. It also features a comprehensive hobby section which is set out like a catalogue to set you on the path to choosing, paying extortionate amounts and building your own Pokédex of Warhammer 40,000 Citadel miniatures.''
1/10. They'd never use "Pokedex" or "cheese".
2014/04/28 18:55:12
Subject: Re:40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
Breaking news guys! The information for the 7th Ed. book has been released!
Spoiler:
''The Warhammer 40,000 Rulebook is your essential guide to playing atmospheric battles in the 41st Millennium. It helps you field majestic armies of Citadel miniatures across the war-ravaged battlefields of the far-future, in the ultimate contest of strategy and skill.
With 440 full-colour pages with blank spaces to forge your own narrative, this hardback Rulebook is packed with absolutely no complex background to keep the younger and the mentally challenged happy and contains none of the rules for fighting pulse-pounding tabletop battles that you would expect. Instead we have given players the freedom to forge narrative rules to help them squeeze the cheese of victory from between the salty teats of Slaanesh! The Rulebook includes exciting features such as being soft and chewable, big pictures with minimal text and even more plastic porn. As well as jaw-dropping artwork produced by our trained monkeys smearing feces on paper, contained within is a basic history of the 41st Millennium and a richly detailed guide to the races and weapons of the far-future. It also features a comprehensive hobby section which is set out like a catalogue to set you on the path to choosing, paying extortionate amounts and building your own Pokédex of Warhammer 40,000 Citadel miniatures.''
1/10. They'd never use "Pokedex" or "cheese".
Ah, that would explain why I was turned down by the Black Library
Thousand Sons: 3850pts / Space Marines Deathwatch 5000pts / Dark Eldar Webway Corsairs 2000pts / Scrapheap Challenged Orks 1500pts / Black Death 1500pts
It's listed, but I can't see an option to add to cart. As much as I hate to say it, this appears to be happening. There's no way it's the overhaul people are looking for, they haven't even finished the codex updates yet. Fairly sure we're looking at the 6th ed book with the escalation and stronghold assault rules thrown in. Call it 7th edition so people will click on your rumour blog!
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Dead account, no takesy-backsies
2014/04/28 19:15:31
Subject: Re:40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
Accolade wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty sure Tom Kirby is cited as having called Pokemon a passing fad.
You remember correctly, it was in one of the recent financial reports. Something like "who remembers Pokemon or roleplaying or any of those silly fads". This is especially hilarious because this was published not long after the latest Pokemon video game made more money in 24 hours than GW makes in an entire year.
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Bull0 wrote: Call it 7th edition so people will click on your rumour blog!
No, call it 7th edition so everyone who bought the 6th edition rulebook has to pay another $75 for the 7th edition rulebook. This is reinforced by the starter set rulebook no longer containing the complete rules, so you can't just ebay a cheap copy of it instead of paying for the expensive hardcover version. I'm sure we can also expect to see some random changes thrown in just to be sure that the game is no longer compatible with 6th edition.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
2014/04/28 19:20:04
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
Or call it 7th edition so I don't expect my digital copy to be automatically updated, despite its the same book with copy pasted rules.
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
2014/04/28 19:22:03
Subject: Re:40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
I've tried to distilled the 40k specific rules from that giant chat log:
Spoiler:
Movement: Run: D6 or 2D6 for Flying Monstrous Creatures that are Swooping.
Consolidations: 2D6 pick one, but you only consolidate on your turn. You can charge with your consolidation move. Opponent can overwatch. You only get to fight once per turn, so if you consolidate into a new combat you don’t get to fight, unless your fist combat didn’t fight (opponent flees).
Retreats: 6 + D6 Charge: 2D6, not affected by difficult terrain.
Move through Difficult: 2D6 pick one.
Charge through Difficult: 2D6 (The same, but -2 iniative).
Reserves: Coming in from Reserves: If there is no enemy in 24” of a particular table edge, units from reserve that use this edge to enter the table can march an additional 12”
Flyers have the “Patient Hunter” special rule which means they can choose to stay in ongoing reserves.
Assault: Flee: You can chose to immediately lose combat after Hammer of Wrath, before any blows are struck. Iniative roll off as if you had lost combat. If you win, you do a normal Retreat. It happens before pile-ins.
Overwatch: Must win or tie an iniative roll off to overwatch. Cannot overwatch if Gone to Ground or Pinned.
Charge through Cover: -2 to initiative unless assault grenades or unit being assaulted has Gone to Ground or been Pinned.
Initiative: All models strike at their common Initiative unless they are in a Challenge, or are using Unwieldy weapons like power fists. If a unit has 3 Power Fists, and 2 Chainswords they all strike at Initiative 1.
Hammer of Wrath: Counts as part of combat resolution.
Assaulting Vehicles and Buildings: If the vehicle doesn’t have a WS (walker), then you Sweep Attack them rather than Assault them.
Psychic Powers: Most happen at the end of the movement phase rather than the start. You have to roll for Warp charges like fantasy (complexity 4?)
Psychic powers do not require line of sight.
Unit Types: Jump Infantry: Can use jump packs in all phases. If In difficult, and you use Jump pack, must take dangerous terrain test. Jump Packs in assault give HOW but not Rerolls.
Chariots: can Sweep Attack
Bikes: can Sweep Attack
Vehicles: D6 S6 Hammer of Wrath and have Sweep Attack which seems to replace Tank Shock. Walkers do D6 S:Unit Hammer of Wrath. “Death or Glory” against vehicle sweep attacks mean all models in unit Snapshoot at rear armor, or all models within 3” do CC attacks against rear armor. Must take fear test or WS:1. If they fail to stop the vehicle, then they take 2D6 S6 Hammer of Wrath. Only get cover saves against other vehicles.
Light Walkers: Only do 1 Hammer of Wrath. I’m thinking Killa Kans, Scout Sentinal, War Walkers.
Swarms: Take D3 wounds to Template weapons (flamers).
Special Rules: Fleet add an extra D6, and can discard a D6 in all random moves. No Rerolls.
Move through cover, and you ignore the effects of Difficult Terrain (6” move, no iniative penalty for assault), but not Dangerous.
Shrouded: -2 to BS Stealth: +1 to Cover
Fearless: Cannot chose to Flee
Preferred Enemy: +1 to hit for both Melee and Shooting.
Bulky: gives Hammer of Wrath.
Hit and Run: Gives Sweep Attack, cannot leave combat.
Sweep Attack: Close combat attack in the movement phase can only hit ground targets, and can be hit back. Pause during movement, cannot be within 1”. Any model within 3” can attack, and then finish movement. No Pile-ins allowed. Can be part of a Run Move. You can still shoot after a Sweep Attack. Does include Hammer of Wrath.
Vector Strike: D6 S:Unit AP:- auto hits. Hits Rear Armor. Swooping must pass within 3” of model being vector strike (no longer have to pass over). Does not count as shooting a weapon. All hits are precision hits.
Look Out Sir: On a 2+ the next closest model takes the wounds. Only 1 Look Out Sir roll for all allocated wounds. Look Out Sir is available to all models with special weapons.
Regeneration: 4+ to recover a wound. Grants Feel No Pain.
Other Rules: Snapshooting: -3 BS.
High BS: No Rerolls for BS > 6. 1 always misses, 6 always hits.
FOC: HQ: 0-25%, must have 1 warlord
Elite: 0-25%
Troops: 20-75%
Fast Attack: 0-25%
Heavy Support: 0-25%
Secondary Detachments: 0-25%, it includes Allies, Fortifications, Formations, Lords of War and can also include units from your primary codex. You can have 3, but must pick one after rolling for game, deployment and first turn. The player who wins first turn must select first. See example below.
Allies: Allies are part of the Secondary Detachment, but count in Primary FOC. They do not have a troop or HQ limit, and you must have only 1 ally per Secondary detachment, but you can take formations from other allies.
Fortifications: Fortifications are part of the Secondary Detachment.
Formations: Formations are part of the Secondary Detachment, and don’t count in the Primary FOC.
Lords of War: If one player brings a Lord of war and the other player does not, the first player must declare his Secondary Detachment first, and the opponent has a chance to bring fourth Secondary Detachment. Any Heavy Support in this special Secondary Detachment do not count against the Heavy Support Limit.
Accolade wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty sure Tom Kirby is cited as having called Pokemon a passing fad.
You remember correctly, it was in one of the recent financial reports. Something like "who remembers Pokemon or roleplaying or any of those silly fads". This is especially hilarious because this was published not long after the latest Pokemon video game made more money in 24 hours than GW makes in an entire year.
Man, what is this dude smoking?
Dungeons & Dragons is a fantasy tabletop role-playing game (RPG) originally designed by Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson, and first published in 1974 by Tactical Studies Rules, Inc. (TSR).
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Founded in 1975 at 15 Bolingbroke Road, London, by John Peake, Ian Livingstone, and Steve Jackson (not to be confused with US citizen Steve Jackson, also a games designer), Games Workshop was originally a manufacturer of wooden boards for games such as backgammon, mancala, Nine Men's Morris, and Go which later became an importer of the U.S. role-playing game Dungeons & Dragons, and then a publisher of wargames and role-playing games in its own right, expanding from a bedroom mail-order company in the process.
Warhammer has been periodically updated and re-released since first appearing in 1983.
Warhammer 40,000, a futuristic companion to Warhammer Fantasy Battle, was released in 1987.
Seriously. D&D was almost 10 years old by the time they released WHFB.
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2014/04/28 19:26:24
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
Accolade wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty sure Tom Kirby is cited as having called Pokemon a passing fad.
You remember correctly, it was in one of the recent financial reports. Something like "who remembers Pokemon or roleplaying or any of those silly fads". This is especially hilarious because this was published not long after the latest Pokemon video game made more money in 24 hours than GW makes in an entire year.
Man, what is this dude smoking?
Dungeons & Dragons is a fantasy tabletop role-playing game (RPG) originally designed by Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson, and first published in 1974 by Tactical Studies Rules, Inc. (TSR).
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Founded in 1975 at 15 Bolingbroke Road, London, by John Peake, Ian Livingstone, and Steve Jackson (not to be confused with US citizen Steve Jackson, also a games designer), Games Workshop was originally a manufacturer of wooden boards for games such as backgammon, mancala, Nine Men's Morris, and Go which later became an importer of the U.S. role-playing game Dungeons & Dragons, and then a publisher of wargames and role-playing games in its own right, expanding from a bedroom mail-order company in the process.
Warhammer has been periodically updated and re-released since first appearing in 1983.
Warhammer 40,000, a futuristic companion to Warhammer Fantasy Battle, was released in 1987.
Seriously. D&D was almost 10 years old by the time they released WHFB.
Kirby isn't a gamer from what I can tell. Which explains a lot actually.
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2014/04/28 19:32:08
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
If they make Overwatch hinge on a Initative check, They might as well take it out of the game. the Armies that rely on Overwatch to stay out of assault have low init... Or don't care about assault in the first place.
I like to say I have two armies: Necrons, and Imperium.....
2014/04/28 19:33:02
Subject: Re:40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
Accolade wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty sure Tom Kirby is cited as having called Pokemon a passing fad.
You remember correctly, it was in one of the recent financial reports. Something like "who remembers Pokemon or roleplaying or any of those silly fads". This is especially hilarious because this was published not long after the latest Pokemon video game made more money in 24 hours than GW makes in an entire year.
Man, what is this dude smoking?
Tom Kirby seems like a come-to-real life version of Gordon Gecko, or at least "That Guy" from Futurama
Steve Castle: Listen, big guy, now that you're my protégé, it's time I cut you in on the secret to success. Any guesses? Fry: Uh, work really, really hard? Steve Castle: No. Fry: Oh, thank God! Steve Castle: It's all about appearances. That's why it's time to update our company's stodgy image and give it the sleek, dazzling veneer of the 1980's!
And yes, I do mean the 1980s. The internet is just as much of a fad as this Pokemon business!
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2014/04/28 19:34:17
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
If they make Overwatch hinge on a Initative check, They might as well take it out of the game. the Armies that rely on Overwatch to stay out of assault have low init... Or don't care about assault in the first place.
Unless they go at full BS, then it's a pretty decent trade.
2014/04/28 19:37:11
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
Hollismason wrote: It makes more sense for them to do a 6th edition revised then 2 years later release 7th that way every two years they update the rules and sell more.
But they aren't calling it 6th revised, its being called 7th so they can charge you again. Its essentially a recall that you have to pay for because they changed the name. Its a no win situation, the only way this benefits the players is if it is a better game that will actually want to play, and considering GWs behaviour and attitude the last 2 years its not looking like a great possibility.
If its a new edition then they are willing to dump editions 2 years in, if the edition is good then its essentially a recall they will never admit to and know they can get away that sort of business practice, hell the goobs will praise them from Dorne to the wall. If the edition is bad then it means its nothing more then another lazily done desperate gouge attempt to keep padding their numbers by any means necessary and points to serious problems.
If its truly 6th revised then its just a new rulebook that you aren't forced to purchase. Everything is fine. Any changes would be put up in an FAQ free of charge and everyone with the digital copies get an update. Everyone is happy. This is the least likely of scenarios.
Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
2014/04/28 19:37:29
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
If they make Overwatch hinge on a Initative check, They might as well take it out of the game. the Armies that rely on Overwatch to stay out of assault have low init... Or don't care about assault in the first place.
Unless they go at full BS, then it's a pretty decent trade.
now picture dark elder with poisoned shooting overwatching at full BS.......
RoperPG wrote: Blimey, it's very salty in here...
Any more vegans want to put forth their opinions on bacon?
2014/04/28 19:39:37
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
Hollismason wrote: It makes more sense for them to do a 6th edition revised then 2 years later release 7th that way every two years they update the rules and sell more.
But they aren't calling it 6th revised, its being called 7th so they can charge you again.
GW isn't calling it anything yet. We're calling it 7th.
If they make Overwatch hinge on a Initative check, They might as well take it out of the game. the Armies that rely on Overwatch to stay out of assault have low init... Or don't care about assault in the first place.
Unless they go at full BS, then it's a pretty decent trade.
now picture dark elder with poisoned shooting overwatching at full BS.......
At least it'd make sense!
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2014/04/28 19:43:45
Subject: Re:40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
tag8833 wrote: Only get cover saves against other vehicles.
This is just so unbelievably stupid that I can't consider those rumors anything more than bad trolling. Even GW couldn't think that this is a good idea.
Look Out Sir: On a 2+ the next closest model takes the wounds. Only 1 Look Out Sir roll for all allocated wounds. Look Out Sir is available to all models with special weapons.
So, you know that wound allocation system and precision shot rule we invented in 6th? Well, just remove them from the book. But only on a 2+, so you still have to learn how the rules work and roll some dice. Dice are very Narrative™.
High BS: No Rerolls for BS > 6. 1 always misses, 6 always hits.
So, you know those characters that have BS 6+? Well, that's just for Narrative™ purposes, so you know how awesome your character is.
FOC: HQ: 0-25%, must have 1 warlord
Elite: 0-25%
Troops: 20-75%
Fast Attack: 0-25%
Heavy Support: 0-25%
Oh good, let's encourage MSU spam and ban using multiple tanks below 2000 points. Oh, and we'd better take all that Escalation nonsense back out of the game.
Lords of War: If one player brings a Lord of war and the other player does not, the first player must declare his Secondary Detachment first, and the opponent has a chance to bring fourth Secondary Detachment.
This doesn't even make any sense. Show up to a game with three alternate detachments, but if you're a psychic and know that your opponent will bring a LoW you can show up with four?
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
2014/04/28 19:44:05
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
If they make Overwatch hinge on a Initative check, They might as well take it out of the game. the Armies that rely on Overwatch to stay out of assault have low init... Or don't care about assault in the first place.
Unless they go at full BS, then it's a pretty decent trade.
now picture dark elder with poisoned shooting overwatching at full BS.......
I won't argue that Assault doesn't needs some love... But I think you can get that with other changes. such as removing random charge distance. and being able to consolidate into another combat. Any changes to Overwatch will either make it more broken, or make it a non-factor.
I like to say I have two armies: Necrons, and Imperium.....
2014/04/28 19:45:32
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
I think the stock of 6th rulebooks has run out and that GW deliberately allowed this to happen so they could make a second print run with included FAQ's, Stronghold Assault, Escalation, etc.
I think the core rules will be mostly unchanged with exception to the applied FAQ's, but because of the impending inclusion of super heavies, additional fortifications and possibly formations that all of this is enough of a change to call it 7th edition.
2014/04/28 19:46:05
Subject: 40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
Ralis wrote: If they make Overwatch hinge on a Initative check, They might as well take it out of the game. the Armies that rely on Overwatch to stay out of assault have low init... Or don't care about assault in the first place.
And this. Roll a 5+/4+ to see if you get to attempt to roll some 6s and maybe accomplish something. Don't bother questioning why we keep adding all this tedious dice rolling, dice are Cinematic™!
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
2014/04/28 19:47:14
Subject: Re:40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
No, call it 7th edition so everyone who bought the 6th edition rulebook has to pay another $75 for the 7th edition rulebook. This is reinforced by the starter set rulebook no longer containing the complete rules, so you can't just ebay a cheap copy of it instead of paying for the expensive hardcover version. I'm sure we can also expect to see some random changes thrown in just to be sure that the game is no longer compatible with 6th edition.
I was talking about rumourmongers calling it 7th, not GW. Obviously GW publishing another major edition so soon is gakky, does it even need to be said?
BUT I'm still not going to be surprised if it's just "collectors' edition" 6th or whatever, officially. And all that bollocks about the starter set is from Faeit, right? EG not worth the loo roll it's written on?
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Dead account, no takesy-backsies
2014/04/28 19:47:30
Subject: Re:40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
Does no one else think that the drop of an entirely new set of rules (or updated and modified rules) that would cause instant demand and boost sales, right before financial statements are calculated, seems both totally plausible and entirely fishy at the same time?
Plausible, because it seems like a mad grab for cash from a business that had bad mid-year financials. The main rule book is the only product that everyone needs in order to play the game.
Fishy, because it would be a blatant bilking of their customer base and a slap in the face to those that have given money to the company in the past.
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Meks is da best! Dey makes go fasta and mo dakka!
2014/04/28 19:48:36
Subject: Re:40k 7th Edition release 31st may? Old English 40k Rulebook discontinued
Idolator wrote: Does no one else think that the drop of an entirely new set of rules that would cause instant demand and boost sales, right before financial statements are calculated, seems both totally plausible and entirely fishy at the same time?
Plausible, because it seems like a mad grab for cash from a business that had bad mid-year financials. The main rule book is the only product that everyone needs in order to play the game.
Fishy, because it would be a blatant bilking of their customer base and a slap in the face to those that have given money to the company in the past.
The fiscal year ends in May, the new set would go on sale in June which is FY 2015, too late to actually affect this year.
Thousand Sons: 3850pts / 
Space Marines Deathwatch 5000pts / 
Dark Eldar Webway Corsairs 2000pts / 
Scrapheap Challenged Orks 1500pts / 
Black Death 1500pts
