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Spoletta wrote:
Same is valid for the shadow in the warp, roll success on 5+ maybe?


Indeed, hadn't thought about that. Or maybe rather than affecting the result of the dice maybe similar rules will affect the number of dice to succeed. Tzeentch Daemons pass on a WC3 on 2 successes, Shadows in the Warp make it 4 Successes etc.

Also the likes of Collar of Khorne and the Necron Gloom Prism. These will all need updates with the new phase.
Also Adamantium Will and if that will apply during the counter spell or will apply in some other manner.

Sorry for the rampant speculation here, should we take this to a new thread?

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All I know is, as a Tyranid player I feel left out.


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 Mij'aan wrote:
According to this image Dark Vengeance is going to be updated to contain the new rules?


That is good to know. I always wanted to buy another DV box set next year once I finished my first one. Just love the minis, glad to know they will not be going away anytime soon.

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I can't read the text in the tiny red box.

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Red box ts;dr*: DV box has old rulebook, gets new one.

*too small, didn't read

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Dark Vengeance
The Dark Vengeance box
set currently contains a
copy of the rules from
the last edition of
Warhammer 40 000 -
rest assured that in the
near future this will be
updated to contain the
new edition of The Rules
Stay tuned to White
Dwarf for news on this
exciting development.

   
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I still wonder if the DV rulebook will be complete rules for 7th, or watered down...

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 Alex C wrote:
I still wonder if the DV rulebook will be complete rules for 7th, or watered down...


If it includes only The Rules volume, I'll be all for it.

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 Alex C wrote:
I still wonder if the DV rulebook will be complete rules for 7th, or watered down...


The tiny red box (From now on called TRD) seems to say that DV will stay and will get an updated version of "The Rules".

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 Steve steveson wrote:
 Alex C wrote:
I still wonder if the DV rulebook will be complete rules for 7th, or watered down...


The tiny red box (From now on called TRD) seems to say that DV will stay and will get an updated version of "The Rules".


Yes, but will the DV rulebook be a complete copy of "the rules", or a watered down version that's missing stuff in order to give people a reason to buy the big rulebook separately?

Hopefully the former. I'd be all over that.

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Just read what the text says.
   
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 Alex C wrote:

Yes, but will the DV rulebook be a complete copy of "the rules", or a watered down version that's missing stuff in order to give people a reason to buy the big rulebook separately?

Hopefully the former. I'd be all over that.


An Updated version of "The Rules" implys it will be just as it is at the moment, but updated.

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I wonder if/when the new starter set will come out then since it appears DV will be sticking around for a bit longer.

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Clearly no-one will buy the current 6th edition Dark VEngeance now so GW will probably recall them and change the rule book. It would be a smart move to have the revised version on sale from the 24th May.

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 unmercifulconker wrote:
I wonder if/when the new starter set will come out then since it appears DV will be sticking around for a bit longer.

8th edition, presumably.

Whenever that is.
   
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A FLGS owner just posted this on Facebook

FLGS Owner wrote:Ooo.. just got my sales info in for 7th Edition. Obviously can't talk about it, but the prices is exceptionally reasonable for what you get.


Maybe there is hope?

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
Clearly no-one will buy the current 6th edition Dark VEngeance now so GW will probably recall them and change the rule book. It would be a smart move to have the revised version on sale from the 24th May.


The smart thing would be to send a new mini rulebook for all non-sold boxes to GW and FLGSs, less shipping and manpower.

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Ok, I'm kind of confused about one thing in the article posted above. The second paragraph begins with "For more than three decades, Warhammer 40,000 has been the setting...."

I was under the impression that 40K came out in 1987, which is less than three decades. Am I mistaken, or is the author of the article mistaken?

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 GuardStrider wrote:
A FLGS owner just posted this on Facebook

FLGS Owner wrote:Ooo.. just got my sales info in for 7th Edition. Obviously can't talk about it, but the prices is exceptionally reasonable for what you get.


Maybe there is hope?


Yeah he'd need to define reasonable. Reasonable being completely subjective; for me $25-30 for the rules only would be reasonable but I doubt that'll be an option.

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Avian wrote:
 unmercifulconker wrote:
I wonder if/when the new starter set will come out then since it appears DV will be sticking around for a bit longer.

8th edition, presumably.

Whenever that is.


So new starter by Christmas then?

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 Alex C wrote:
Avian wrote:
 unmercifulconker wrote:
I wonder if/when the new starter set will come out then since it appears DV will be sticking around for a bit longer.

8th edition, presumably.

Whenever that is.


So new starter by Christmas then?

Nah, we should be using linear approximation:
5th edition lasted 4 years
6th edition lasted 2 years
Thus obviously 7th edition will last 0 years.
   
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I wonder with the nerf to Psyker powers and Jink will seer council even be good anymore? Lots of Deny the witch with harder to cast powers from warlocks and snapshots after Jink saving? Guess there is no reason to have singing spears anymore when witchblades are the same stats melee wise. Although this will make the jetbikes armor save of 3+ with hopefully adding the warlock power to give them another +1 armor save for a 2+ more useful assuming you can get the power off but still makes them vulnerable to AP2 shooting. I think this just makes them less of a shooty unit and more dedicated assault with chances to cast powers and get denied from here on.

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Saldiven wrote:
Ok, I'm kind of confused about one thing in the article posted above. The second paragraph begins with "For more than three decades, Warhammer 40,000 has been the setting...."

I was under the impression that 40K came out in 1987, which is less than three decades. Am I mistaken, or is the author of the article mistaken?


Yeah, I noticed that too, the author fails at math.


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 Jackmojo wrote:
Saldiven wrote:
Ok, I'm kind of confused about one thing in the article posted above. The second paragraph begins with "For more than three decades, Warhammer 40,000 has been the setting...."

I was under the impression that 40K came out in 1987, which is less than three decades. Am I mistaken, or is the author of the article mistaken?


Yeah, I noticed that too, the author fails at math.


When forging a narrative, three decades sounds more epic.

Facts be damned!

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The "whats new today" for today is just how to paint ents. Was hoping for another JJ video.

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Avian wrote:
 unmercifulconker wrote:
I wonder if/when the new starter set will come out then since it appears DV will be sticking around for a bit longer.

8th edition, presumably.

Whenever that is.


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Aye I thought we were under the assumption there was a Blood Angels - Ork starter set coming out following the new release.

I wonder how innacurate this is now. It seemed pretty nailed on earlier.

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 Mij'aan wrote:
Aye I thought we were under the assumption there was a Blood Angels - Ork starter set coming out following the new release.

I wonder how innacurate this is now. It seemed pretty nailed on earlier.

Presumably you have been reading stuff from Faeit and/or BoLS.

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 Jackmojo wrote:
Saldiven wrote:
Ok, I'm kind of confused about one thing in the article posted above. The second paragraph begins with "For more than three decades, Warhammer 40,000 has been the setting...."

I was under the impression that 40K came out in 1987, which is less than three decades. Am I mistaken, or is the author of the article mistaken?


Yeah, I noticed that too, the author fails at math.


Maybe he is thinking that 40K came out when GW was made or at least thought when Fantasy came out, that 40K was out at the same time as Fantasy. Since GW is what over 30 years old now, he is just mistaken.

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Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

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The "whats new today" for today is just how to paint ents. Was hoping for another JJ video.

With there being 3 videos total (when watching it on Youtube the current one shows up as "1/3" in the description) I'm betting on it being a MWF sort of thing.
   
 
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