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Spoletta wrote:
So, can we safely say that the Farseerstar is history?
That demon summoning galore will really be possible? Since you only get a 65% chance to summon them with 6 dices and 20% chance to peril while at it i don't think that will happen.

Seems like getting multiple psions is greatly discouraged, even a single lvl 3 psion will find it hard to cast 3 lvl 1 powers.

The Herald summoning power costs only 1 WC... 4 dice is enough to cast it quite successfully (I'd use 3, at most). After summoning so many of them, you can spend the 4th turn bringing lots of Troops (not scoring, though) and some Greater Daemons

40K radio (who seem to be the only really reliable rumour source at the moment) always has 7th down as a book only update,

so no new starter

the orks/blood angels rumour is from other far less reliable sources (and has also shown up as an ork/blood angel revival of epic too)

so we'll have to wait and see

although to me the effort involved in actually recalling DV box sets from stores to insert the new rules suggests no new starter box any time soon.

It would not surprise me if GW wants to have the starter box disconnected from the main rule book, as it would be a good way of keeping interest high 'mid cycle',

and give them time to gather sales data on what force would benefit most from fighting the obligatory SM too (either to boost an army flagging due to the new rules, or to be able to choose the most popular Xenos to optimised sales)

 GuardStrider wrote:
A FLGS owner just posted this on Facebook

FLGS Owner wrote:Ooo.. just got my sales info in for 7th Edition. Obviously can't talk about it, but the prices is exceptionally reasonable for what you get.

Maybe there is hope?

The online shop my gamer group orders from lists the rulebook as: presumably containing 3 books.
Price for German Edition: 65 EUR (6th ED BRB was 60 EUR, so not much difference)

So, it seems like a bundle, maybe Fluff, Rules and... idk... Missions?
So you could sell the other 2 books and only keep the Rules.

Source: http://www.fantasywelt.de/product_info.php/info/p25334_Warhammer-40-000-Regelbuch-7-Edition--deutsch-2014---40-02-.html

Avian wrote:

 Mij'aan wrote:
Aye I thought we were under the assumption there was a Blood Angels - Ork starter set coming out following the new release.

I wonder how innacurate this is now. It seemed pretty nailed on earlier.

Presumably you have been reading stuff from Faeit and/or BoLS.

Don't do that again.

Actually a GW staff member told one of my friends about it - My only assumption is that he's a lying sht or GW are going to hold back that release while they sell off remaining DV boxes.

...My friend is probably the lying sht here. I'll kick him when I see him next.

Mij'aan wrote:According to this image Dark Vengeance is going to be updated to contain the new rules?

Hanskrampf wrote:

 GuardStrider wrote:
A FLGS owner just posted this on Facebook

FLGS Owner wrote:Ooo.. just got my sales info in for 7th Edition. Obviously can't talk about it, but the prices is exceptionally reasonable for what you get.

Maybe there is hope?

The online shop my gamer group orders from lists the rulebook as: presumably containing 3 books.
Price for German Edition: 65 EUR (6th ED BRB was 60 EUR, so not much difference)

So, it seems like a bundle, maybe Fluff, Rules and... idk... Missions?
So you could sell the other 2 books and only keep the Rules.

Source: http://www.fantasywelt.de/product_info.php/info/p25334_Warhammer-40-000-Regelbuch-7-Edition--deutsch-2014---40-02-.html

I'm guessing you missed the WDW scan from a few pages back, confirming everything you're speculating on?

I very much doubt there'll be much of a secondary market for anything other than the rules volume, as the majority of people looking for stuff like that will be explicitly because they already own most of the modelling/fluff stuff in previous volumes. If those books are substantially new, then the same people will just buy the whole set.

Oops, yeah, I missed that^^

Hanskrampf wrote:

 GuardStrider wrote:
A FLGS owner just posted this on Facebook

FLGS Owner wrote:Ooo.. just got my sales info in for 7th Edition. Obviously can't talk about it, but the prices is exceptionally reasonable for what you get.

Maybe there is hope?

The online shop my gamer group orders from lists the rulebook as: presumably containing 3 books.
Price for German Edition: 65 EUR (6th ED BRB was 60 EUR, so not much difference)

So, it seems like a bundle, maybe Fluff, Rules and... idk... Missions?
So you could sell the other 2 books and only keep the Rules.
DV box could be updated with the Rules part.

Source: http://www.fantasywelt.de/product_info.php/info/p25334_Warhammer-40-000-Regelbuch-7-Edition--deutsch-2014---40-02-.html

Yes, there are three books in a slipcase, but I don't think you'll really be able to sell just two of them when everyone is going to want the rules one the most. They explain the books here, in the second column:

niv-mizzet wrote:
>cursed earth power
>give daemons a STACKING +1 invuln

Mother of all things unholy! GW has every learning disorder on the planet under one roof, don't they?

We will see. Hopefully there is a rule that caps invul saves at 3+. That's reasonable, right?

Davor wrote:

 Jackmojo wrote:

Saldiven wrote:
Ok, I'm kind of confused about one thing in the article posted above. The second paragraph begins with "For more than three decades, Warhammer 40,000 has been the setting...."

I was under the impression that 40K came out in 1987, which is less than three decades. Am I mistaken, or is the author of the article mistaken?

Yeah, I noticed that too, the author fails at math.

Maybe he is thinking that 40K came out when GW was made or at least thought when Fantasy came out, that 40K was out at the same time as Fantasy. Since GW is what over 30 years old now, he is just mistaken.

I figure that's probably the case. GW has been around for 35 or so years, but they started with WHFB as far as tabletop wargames were concerned. WH40K didn't come out until WHFB was already into its 3rd edition.

(I'm trying really hard to not be negative, but it's kind of sad that this made it to publication with this kind of obvious boo-boo.)

 Mij'aan wrote:

Avian wrote:

 Mij'aan wrote:
Aye I thought we were under the assumption there was a Blood Angels - Ork starter set coming out following the new release.

I wonder how innacurate this is now. It seemed pretty nailed on earlier.

Presumably you have been reading stuff from Faeit and/or BoLS.

Don't do that again.

Actually a GW staff member told one of my friends about it - My only assumption is that he's a lying sht or GW are going to hold back that release while they sell off remaining DV boxes.

...My friend is probably the lying sht here. I'll kick him when I see him next.

GW staffers get no more information than you do from GW (ie, nothing). Generally they find out about upcoming things through web rumors as well, if they bother trying to find out things at all. The Blood Angels/Orks rumor has been popular for a while, so the Redshirt probably heard about it online, and just repeated it.

Or as an opponent you play smart and save your dice to stop him from casting?

I do like how they have a built in diminishing returns for casters. The more casters you have sure you get more dice, but in general you are not getting enough additional dice to cast your spells.

For example: d6 and three mastery level 2s

So about 9 dice.

If it requires 2-3 dice to reliably get a warp charge 1 power off then you are going to only cast 3 powers a turn compared to 6 before. However if you have two mastery level twos than you are getting 7 dice to throw at 4 spells.

more than three decades is technically correct if you think of it as existing in the 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s ie it has existed for four decades, although not 30 years

cromagz wrote:
more than three decades is technically correct if you think of it as existing in the 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s ie it has existed for four decades, although not 30 years

I.E The normal marketing hyperbole that every company uses when referring to how old anything is.

cromagz wrote:
more than three decades is technically correct if you think of it as existing in the 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s ie it has existed for four decades, although not 30 years

Going by this logic, 40K has existed for a millennium. Has it?

Looks like there won't be a new starter box set after all from what I can tell in the bit about DV. Looks like the rumour guys were wrong on that one?

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Looks like there won't be a new starter box set after all from what I can tell in the bit about DV. Looks like the rumour guys were wrong on that one?

Seems so.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Looks like there won't be a new starter box set after all from what I can tell in the bit about DV. Looks like the rumour guys were wrong on that one?

Just all the rumor guys that were expected to be wrong.

I have to wonder where people get their information from at times..

Well if you think about it the orks and BA rumor might be true. We all know 8th is only 2 years or less out and they need some trick up their sleeve to market it.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Looks like there won't be a new starter box set after all from what I can tell in the bit about DV. Looks like the rumour guys were wrong on that one?

Just all the rumor guys that were expected to be wrong.

cromagz wrote:
more than three decades is technically correct if you think of it as existing in the 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s ie it has existed for four decades, although not 30 years

Prepositions are important.

By your description, GW has existed in four decades, not for four decades.

I like the 3 book format...it's a nice 2nd edition touch. And functionally speaking, the 200 page rulebook means that I'll probably just lug that around instead of shelling out for the mini-rulebook down the road.

Mr.Church13 wrote:
Well if you think about it the orks and BA rumor might be true. We all know 8th is only 2 years or less out and they need some trick up their sleeve to market it.

I wouldn't mind seeing a Mat Ward-less Blood Angels Codex lol

angelofvengeance wrote:I have to wonder where people get their information from at times..

Well, mostly from ignoring places like Bell of Lost Souls, Natfka, and Faeit 212.

Seriously. They accept any rumors and just post them, they do nothing to attempt to vet the rumors or track their history etc.

Mr.Church13 wrote:Well if you think about it the orks and BA rumor might be true. We all know 8th is only 2 years or less out and they need some trick up their sleeve to market it.

We know that, huh? Well I guess we should put you up on the rumor tracker then...

Mr.Church13 wrote:
Well if you think about it the orks and BA rumor might be true. We all know 8th is only 2 years or less out and they need some trick up their sleeve to market it.

Are you kidding? It's only going to be a year! Haven't you listened to the internet?!

 angelofvengeance wrote:

Mr.Church13 wrote:
Well if you think about it the orks and BA rumor might be true. We all know 8th is only 2 years or less out and they need some trick up their sleeve to market it.

I wouldn't mind seeing a Mat Ward-less Blood Angels Codex lol

Give it to Kelly and they'll wear Blood Armour with Blood Grieves and Blood Boots and wield Blood Swords while using Blood Shields.


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 Sinful Hero wrote:

Mr.Church13 wrote:
Well if you think about it the orks and BA rumor might be true. We all know 8th is only 2 years or less out and they need some trick up their sleeve to market it.

Are you kidding? It's only going to be a year! Haven't you listened to the internet?!

The internet is worse at math than GW.

Chrysis wrote:

 Lansirill wrote:
So no unbound vs battle forged it looks like. Missed that on my first skim through the screen caps. That makes objective secured a little redundant unless they're changing the scoring system after all. That could be nice actually. Troops are great at scoring, but you can choose to mostly ignore them and use other units to score... I'd take it out on a second date.

You did miss it. Read the top line of the screen cap that details unbound armies. Specifically the bold section. "Both players need not use the same method."

Looking at it I only see "both players need ... use the same method." So I suppose nothing is really clear, since those ellipses could be either not or to. Either that, or I'm just not able to see the entire image for some reason.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

Mr.Church13 wrote:
Well if you think about it the orks and BA rumor might be true. We all know 8th is only 2 years or less out and they need some trick up their sleeve to market it.

Are you kidding? It's only going to be a year! Haven't you listened to the internet?!

A year!? Remeber, this is the "evil" GW. I expect a new edition in 6 months!

 Samurai_Eduh wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:

Mr.Church13 wrote:
Well if you think about it the orks and BA rumor might be true. We all know 8th is only 2 years or less out and they need some trick up their sleeve to market it.

Are you kidding? It's only going to be a year! Haven't you listened to the internet?!

A year!? Remeber, this is the "evil" GW. I expect a new edition in 6 months!

Well it's all about building success. If two years sells well, then why not one?

Well one year sold well I bet they'd love six months!

Announcing the new Warhammer 40k weekly for $115 a week get the latest edition of 40k!

I wonder if the WD page with the shooting phase is detailed enough to be able to read it. It would be nice if the person that posted these pictures could provide a better picture of that part.