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The first LEs with just a dust jacket have really been stupid, but the later ones improved. If I would have been into Chaos then Crimson Slaughter would have tempted me. I mean, tormented faces appearing on the cover when you touch it? There can't be a cooler feature for a chaos book

On topic: we need more pics

That's about it. There's some stuff worth reading, like the 1200 point battle report of orks vs nids (gasp! They even posted lists!)

A good issue. Now the 11 day wait will seem even LONGER

Battleforged or Unbound the next time I meet a guy with screamerstar I am going to let him set his army up, declare him the winner, and go look for another opponent.

Also, I saw the guy that bought the 6th Ed. LE and still carries it around in the canvas book bag that came with it, I laughed.

 tetrisphreak wrote:

 Lockark wrote:
Do we know how wound allocation works now? Removeing from the front has been my most hated change from 6th.

Still from the closest to the firing models.

If anyone wants orks or csm pm me. Because assault armies are still R.I.P. in peace

Gonna be spamming that F5 key to get a munitorium edition!

The reference section is pictured in the photo with the LE version. Sadly the text is too small to read but a few things can be discerned:

Melee to-hit chart is the same.

S vs T to-wound chart is the same.

BS6+ not listed in the shooting to hit table.

Vehicle damage table has effects for 1-3, 4, 5, 6, and 7. (Cannot read text)

Perils chart is a d6 table.

The rest is just too blurry/small to make out.

Yes! My screamerstar will be moaar powerful than it was!
Just kidding...

 avedominusnox wrote:
Yes! My screamerstar will be moaar powerful than it was!
Just kidding...

Are you?

if the collectors edition were 200, I might think about it. But $340?

Nope.

$340...holy hell that is two battleboxes and several addons...

Glad the box set will remain the same, been meaning to buy a couple more to make a small Cultist army. My nephew can have the Dark Angels.

jamesk1973 wrote:

 avedominusnox wrote:
Yes! My screamerstar will be moaar powerful than it was!
Just kidding...

Are you?

Ofc I'm kidding. Though I own one and I will use it partially if not whole in a competitive tournament.
But I did that before the new edition and I will use the models after it in various ways if I'm allowed to.
Still I never play these stuff in casual/non-tourney games.
I find some of the new rules very good and promising, some others seem still game breaking but we will have to figure out
through play test.

 tetrisphreak wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
Removing invul on roll of a 6 is useless on a counter level. Counters need to be reliable. That's why you paid the super premium for D weapons - reliable strength. A 1/6th chance is highly unreliable and not worth the huge points investment.

So basically, we're back to Deathstars now? Along with them scoring? GW rocks.

I think you'll find that fortune will be much harder to cast as a WC2 psychic power now instead of a ld10 check. Plus you can throw all your dispel dice to try and block it, with no chance of perils as a defending player.

Chill.

Exactly... that's exciting as all hell.

No more instant 2++ rerollable Baronseer/Screamer star. At least you'd have a fighting chance now!

So basically starter remains the same with a possibility of a new mini rulebook included in it?
That's nice. Even if it takes time for that to happen.

slaede wrote:
I get that you can summon an ass ton of Horrors, but all those Horrors are going to do is summon a bunch more Horrors, and it isn't very hard to come up on them and beat them in assault. You'd probably be better off summoning Daemonettes that can get things done.

You can but you want the extra ML for more Warp Power. You can also summon Bloodcrushers. Supposedly.

 Lockark wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:

 Lockark wrote:
Do we know how wound allocation works now? Removeing from the front has been my most hated change from 6th.

Still from the closest to the firing models.

If anyone wants orks or csm pm me. Because assault armies are still R.I.P. in peace

Whoa there bucko...

Let's wait to see if you can assault out of transport easier (ie, in 5th).

Great... Making psyker based armies and FMC spam better. Surely my sisters of battle will get a great way to be anti-psyker based or some way to shoot down flyers.


I don't understand people getting excited about the current stuff that's no fun to play against getting better. Also, $340 for an LE?

Guys, that's a a full army in any other game. That's. Nuts.

Hoping the whole picture is better. Nerfing ignores cover is needed. Hit and run sucks, inflicheating sucks...

 TheKbob wrote:
Great... Making psyker based armies and FMC spam better. Surely my sisters of battle will get a great way to be anti-psyker based or some way to shoot down flyers.


I don't understand people getting excited about the current stuff that's no fun to play against getting better. Also, $340 for an LE?

Guys, that's a a full army in any other game. That's. Nuts.

Hoping the whole picture is better. Needing ignores cover is needed. Hit and run sucks, inflicheating sucks...

This is how i feel 100 fold.

Twin linked weapons automatically gain skyfire but cannot reroll to hit?

That'd be a way to make flyers good but make their counters expensive. Then just nerf Wave Serpents...

 Vaktathi wrote:
if the collectors edition were 200, I might think about it. But $340?

Nope.

Don't worry, you won't have to wait long for the next collector's edition rulebook.

I see that 7E includes a major buff to forum whining based on incomplete information

 xttz wrote:
I see that 7E includes a major buff to forum whining based on incomplete information

+1 is not enough...

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Looking at my copy of WDW and this is epic:

Units now shoot based on the weapon they're holding. E.g., the flamer shoots and resolves all wounds, then the bolters in the unit shoot and resolve all wounds. So on and so forth until all eligible weapons have been fired.

No more 'my bolter has 24" range so my flamer wounds can apply to models up to 24" away." This is huge.

This is great news, because my fluff 5-flamers suicide squad was too good and really needed a nerf. Hopefully, you will remove casualty from the first flamer before checking the number of hit that the second one inflict too…

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Swooping FMCS only take grounding tests once per phase, at the end, and only if they take a wound.

This is great news, because I have access to tons of anti-air units in my Sisters of Battle army.

 tetrisphreak wrote:
I think you'll find that fortune will be much harder to cast as a WC2 psychic power now instead of a ld10 check.

This is great news, because now nobody will need Fortune anymore. The first spell of malefic daemonology does the same, only better. And is WC1.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I'm OKwith the idea of Imperial players being able to summon Demons, as long as in team games/Doubles, a non-Heretical player can immediately declare an EXTERMINATUS and exterminate the Heretic.

And I'm not joking. If I'm playing a team game, and my Spess Mehreen / Imperial Guard Astra Wotsit / Adepta Sista partner uses his psyker to summon a Daemon I'm gonna say "feth that" and switch sides mid-game. My entire army will then turn on the spot and target the filthy Daemon-consorting-Heretics. Objective be damned.

Hows that for forging a narrative?

Raven Guard do not tolerate Heretics.

Sisters do not get access to daemonology because no psykers.

 Accolade wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:

 Accolade wrote:

I would have liked to have seen it priced at $1000, and then waited for someone to come in and explain how they had more money than sense and bought it.

I'm thinking that at 340 it'd take more money than sense to buy it anyways.

I thought the same with limited edition codices too.

Oh I know, I think $340 is absolute insanity. It's at *least* $130 priced over any of the previous LE books, but look at all those hardcovers!!

At least if it was something like $1000 we could have the people who bought it institutionalized.

Carl Tuttle already pre-ordered 2!

 tetrisphreak wrote:
The reference section is pictured in the photo with the LE version. Sadly the text is too small to read but a few things can be discerned:

Melee to-hit chart is the same.

So weapon skill will remain useless...That is sad.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Looking at my copy of WDW and this is epic:

Units now shoot based on the weapon they're holding. E.g., the flamer shoots and resolves all wounds, then the bolters in the unit shoot and resolve all wounds. So on and so forth until all eligible weapons have been fired.

No more 'my bolter has 24" range so my flamer wounds can apply to models up to 24" away." This is huge.

This is great news, because my fluff 5-flamers suicide squad was too good and really needed a nerf. Hopefully, you will remove casualty from the first flamer before checking the number of hit that the second one inflict too…

Nah... they all happen at the same time since they're the same weapons. S'ok.

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Swooping FMCS only take grounding tests once per phase, at the end, and only if they take a wound.

This is great news, because I have access to tons of anti-air units in my Sisters of Battle army.

 tetrisphreak wrote:
I think you'll find that fortune will be much harder to cast as a WC2 psychic power now instead of a ld10 check.

This is great news, because now nobody will need Fortune anymore. The first spell of malefic daemonology does the same, only better. And is WC1.

At least you'd have a chance to deny it.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I'm OKwith the idea of Imperial players being able to summon Demons, as long as in team games/Doubles, a non-Heretical player can immediately declare an EXTERMINATUS and exterminate the Heretic.

And I'm not joking. If I'm playing a team game, and my Spess Mehreen / Imperial Guard Astra Wotsit / Adepta Sista partner uses his psyker to summon a Daemon I'm gonna say "feth that" and switch sides mid-game. My entire army will then turn on the spot and target the filthy Daemon-consorting-Heretics. Objective be damned.

Hows that for forging a narrative?

Raven Guard do not tolerate Heretics.

Sisters do not get access to daemonology because no psykers.

You're IoM... get some allied brotherhoods yo! (yes, I'm sure it's GW's master plan to get you to spend moar $$$!)


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 AdeptSister wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:
The reference section is pictured in the photo with the LE version. Sadly the text is too small to read but a few things can be discerned:

Melee to-hit chart is the same.

So weapon skill will remain useless...That is sad.

What he ^ said...

 Blacksails wrote:

 Accolade wrote:

I would have liked to have seen it priced at $1000, and then waited for someone to come in and explain how they had more money than sense and bought it.

I'm thinking that at 340 it'd take more money than sense to buy it anyways.

I thought the same with limited edition codices too.

I got the Iron Hands limited edition Marine codex. I thought I would reward GW for actually paying my favourite chapter some attention.

Yeah, that went well. Up there with tactically voting Liberal Democrat in the 2010 elections to keep out the Tories

As for the new rumours; somewhat intriguing. If the BBs using friendly transport vehicles is true that would really help thematically with my AdMech, since using Chimeras just feels appropriate, but until now that was impossible since I use Blood Claws rules for my Skitarii. It's not enough to dampen my resentment at not actually being able to model most of said Skitarii for several months because I have to fork out for the new bloody rulebook, but it might make it easier to forget my annoyance in the future.

EDIT: Jesus Christ whembly, that image. I have no idea why it's so funny. but I think I might have just collapsed a lung with laughter

I'm still waiting for the Harlequin codex lol

I'm psyched for the new rules, with unbound you only need 10 minis for an army (10x marneus calgar or whatever) which makes 40k great value for money.

What? Warmachine players use this argument all the time. :p

I like some of the new stuff

And the psychic phase seems like a cool addition except

I PLAY BT!!!!!!!!