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Wow imagine Creed and Calgar getting re-rolls on warlord traits. That is pretty legit.

 Leth wrote:
Wow imagine Creed and Calgar getting re-rolls on warlord traits. That is pretty legit.

Creed more so as he keeps both the ones he rolls, Calgar only gets to keep one.

Well tried to pre-order the rules and the cards on the first day, had issues, at checkout the system told me to call GW customer service which I had to wait until today, issue still not resolved. Probably just my GW profile so no worries. In the mean time I checked out DreamForge and Iron Core. Pretty impressed, but they don't have their rules out yet otherwise I may have jumped ship and crossed over to the other side.

So I'm guessing Sanctic will have some GK codex powers along with some hopefully new powers if its being considered the Demonology discipline thats to banish daemons

An interesting passage I noted on the scan of the Force Organization chart page:

Occasionally a Force Organization slot will not specify a Battlefield Role, in which case any type of unit can be taken, or it will specify a particular unit or units, in which case only those particular units may (or must) be taken.

Assuming that 'Battlefield Role' means HQ, Elites, Troops, etc. it looks like there may be certain Force Organization charts that may allow you to fill a slot with any type of unit.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Leth wrote:
Wow imagine Creed and Calgar getting re-rolls on warlord traits. That is pretty legit.

Creed more so as he keeps both the ones he rolls, Calgar only gets to keep one.

Not only that, but Creed can mix/match from two different Warlord tables.

The only time re rolling warlord traits will be marginally useful is with Tau Ethereals.. (and only if they use the set in the Tau Codex) - 1/2 of them they can't use, and can reroll. So if they land one one of the 3 they don't want, they can reroll that and continue to reroll until they reroll something they're no longer allowed to reroll.

Who said you can't reroll a reroll?

 Mij'aan wrote:
The only time re rolling warlord traits will be marginally useful is with Tau Ethereals.. (and only if they use the set in the Tau Codex) - 1/2 of them they can't use, and can reroll. So if they land one one of the 3 they don't want, they can reroll that and continue to reroll until they reroll something they're no longer allowed to reroll.

Who said you can't reroll a reroll?

playing with eldar using a wraithknight as a warlord I'd love to be able to reroll to ensure I get the outflank ability....cause outflanking wraithknights are fun

 ironicsilence wrote:

 Mij'aan wrote:
The only time re rolling warlord traits will be marginally useful is with Tau Ethereals.. (and only if they use the set in the Tau Codex) - 1/2 of them they can't use, and can reroll. So if they land one one of the 3 they don't want, they can reroll that and continue to reroll until they reroll something they're no longer allowed to reroll.

Who said you can't reroll a reroll?

playing with eldar using a wraithknight as a warlord I'd love to be able to reroll to ensure I get the outflank ability....cause outflanking wraithknights are fun

But what are the odds? 1/6 and if it fails 1/6 again?
Not quite 1/3 / 1/3 is it? Eldar cannot uitilise the rerolling reroll of a reroll quite as well as an ethereal.
Then again, I actually have 0 idea about the eldar codex or supplements!

 Mij'aan wrote:
Who said you can't reroll a reroll?

Page 5 of the current BRB :(

Why should rerolling traits suddenly be awesome? Are traits cooler now?

 Mij'aan wrote:
The only time re rolling warlord traits will be marginally useful is with Tau Ethereals.. (and only if they use the set in the Tau Codex) - 1/2 of them they can't use, and can reroll. So if they land one one of the 3 they don't want, they can reroll that and continue to reroll until they reroll something they're no longer allowed to reroll.

Who said you can't reroll a reroll?

I already do that with Ethereals. I keep re-rolling until I get one of the allowed ones

 Vector Strike wrote:

 Mij'aan wrote:
The only time re rolling warlord traits will be marginally useful is with Tau Ethereals.. (and only if they use the set in the Tau Codex) - 1/2 of them they can't use, and can reroll. So if they land one one of the 3 they don't want, they can reroll that and continue to reroll until they reroll something they're no longer allowed to reroll.

Who said you can't reroll a reroll?

I already do that with Ethereals. I keep re-rolling until I get one of the allowed ones

Exactly! But, with this new feat, you can reroll again if you don't like that re-roll that you just rerolled.
See? It's amazing.


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 xttz wrote:

 Mij'aan wrote:
Who said you can't reroll a reroll?

Page 5 of the current BRB :(

The current BRB means NOTHING as the new one will likely say "You can only re-roll a re-roll if your re-rolls were re-rolled for an Ethereal's re-roll, when he is re-rolling his warlord trait rolls. Re-roll."

FYI, I was at my LFGS when they got the bad news. Card sets have been under printed.
Local store is receiving 120 Rulebooks, 14 sets of psychic cards and 8 sets of the Objective cards.

Holy crap, that is a lot of rulebooks!!

 tdwg83 wrote:
FYI, I was at my LFGS when they got the bad news. Card sets have been under printed.
Local store is receiving 120 Rulebooks, 14 sets of psychic cards and 8 sets of the Objective cards.

Don't worry, I'm sure you'll get plenty at your local GW store.

 Leth wrote:
Holy crap, that is a lot of rulebooks!!

Owner of store indicates this will probably only last 2 weeks.

 Vector Strike wrote:

coredump wrote:

 Vector Strike wrote:
Reading the FOC rules pages, looks like there are no need for Double FOC rules, as you can pick any number of detachments... so, if I understand it correctly, you can have an army with all but HQs and Troops? 3 combined armies detachments, giving you 6 HQs and potentially 18 Troops (not even using allies)

I can't find that page scan again, but I am pretty sure there was also talk about "Primary Detachments" and such. So it may not be possible to take mroe than 1 Combined Arms detachments.

It also seems that you can take a formation, but any troops in the formation will *not* have Objective Secured special rule.

I've read it in the first or second column

Incomplete rules are still incomplete.


There was a scan of the page 122, where they show the FOC for Combined Arms and Allies. The issue is what *they* say about primary detachments, and what other rules pertain to primary detachments.

Yea I just checked, out of 18 pre-orders he is only guaranteed 4 sets of cards. Gonna try the other store in town and see if they can guarantee me some cards.

 Colpicklejar wrote:
Why should rerolling traits suddenly be awesome? Are traits cooler now?

Who knows, maybe they are, instead of the three tables of terrible that are in the 6th ed book.

Hopefully they make most of the book Warlord traits not terrible

In most tournaments I took part in in 6th, it was ruled that you were allowed to roll on two different Warlord tables and then choose one of the results.

Simple, yet great change.

 tdwg83 wrote:

 Leth wrote:
Holy crap, that is a lot of rulebooks!!

Owner of store indicates this will probably only last 2 weeks.

Only 2 weeks until 8th edition? You heard it first here folks

 Colpicklejar wrote:
Why should rerolling traits suddenly be awesome? Are traits cooler now?

Why not just let players choose, would make a lot more sense.

 Lobukia wrote:
Only 2 weeks until 8th edition? You heard it first here folks

How often does GW publish financial figures, again? I wouldn't put it past them to have a new edition before every quarterly report

 Crablezworth wrote:

 Colpicklejar wrote:
Why should rerolling traits suddenly be awesome? Are traits cooler now?

Why not just let players choose, would make a lot more sense.

I'm not sure how that is great either. Usually there is only 1 or 2 that you actually want on a single chart so I agree that choosing would have been more meaningful yet still nothing special to overcome the absurd cheese possible with unbound. On top of that, the "benefit" is largely meaningless anytime you use a special character that automatically comes with a preselected warlord trait. It's a largely meaningless "bonus" much like the ability to superscore with troops that will likely be dead once the unbound list gets their first few turns.

 Brachiaraidos wrote:

 Lobukia wrote:
Only 2 weeks until 8th edition? You heard it first here folks

How often does GW publish financial figures, again? I wouldn't put it past them to have a new edition before every quarterly report

Full report annually in July, with a mid-year report in January.

 Crablezworth wrote:

 Colpicklejar wrote:
Why should rerolling traits suddenly be awesome? Are traits cooler now?

Why not just let players choose, would make a lot more sense.

That's how I usually run it, yea.

My store did, roll a dice Then you were allowed to pick one from any of the tables according to the dice rolled. So a rolling a 5 gave you access to three options.

 Colpicklejar wrote:

 Crablezworth wrote:

 Colpicklejar wrote:
Why should rerolling traits suddenly be awesome? Are traits cooler now?

Why not just let players choose, would make a lot more sense.

That's how I usually run it, yea.

Same. It's much much better IMO.