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Where does it say that the Munitorum Edition has been delayed? =(

 Maddermax wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 Bonesnapper wrote:
To me that sounds extremely fair since both players have the chance to pick up the free points (provided none of them has rigged the deck ..).

It's "fair" in the sense that both players have the same chance of getting game-winning luck, but when your opponent draws easy VP and you don't it's not going to be a very enjoyable game.

As a partial fix, perhaps after you "play" an objective card, it remains in place and your opponent can score the same the next turn? Play the "capture objective 3" card and score points, then your opponent has to try to reclaim it and can score the same points if he does so. Play the "kill x units" card, and know that your opponent is just going to get those same points back if you don't protect your army. Could actually be interesting like that, and a bit more fair than "I got good cards, I win". Obviously the cards you draw would still make a difference, but you'd have to be far more tactical in how you use them.

We've seen 3 of the 6 Maelstrom missions (in some fashion) and the way you score the tactical objectives is quite varied in just the 3 we've seen so far:

In "Spoils of War" from the White Dwarf batrep, we learned that each player has a hand of 3 objectives, but they're visible to both players. In that variant, players can snatch objective cards from their opponent's hand if they hold the appropriate objective on the game table. That's really cool.

In the first Maelstrom mission (from the WD daily blog yesterday) we see that it's a generic setup with Vanguard Strike and each player has a hand of 3 objectives. That's the basic one, and i'm okay with that too.
The second one was really interesting to me - each player only starts with 1 tactical objective card. To draw more tactical objective cards they have to hold the placed objective markers at the start of their turn, and for each they control they get to draw an extra tactical objective card, to a max of 6. This means that players with more positional advantage on the table can draw more cards, getting "card advantage" over their opponent - very good for competitive gameplay.

I'm quite looking forward to 7th edition - saturday can't get here fast enough!

The collectors edition hasn't sold out this time round?

Even if it didn't, they would say it did.

Can't have the truth out there, can we?

doesnt one of the missions make fmcs into jmcs?

Loopstah wrote:
Looks like there are delays with the Munitorium edition. It won't be available for collection until Wednesday 28th due to an issue with it.

I imagine all the people who ordered one will be 10% annoyed and 90% quite happy about the result.

Not sure about this. I've already gotten my shipping email and the tracking number is live. I should be getting it Friday.

 Samurai_Eduh wrote:

Loopstah wrote:
Looks like there are delays with the Munitorium edition. It won't be available for collection until Wednesday 28th due to an issue with it.

I imagine all the people who ordered one will be 10% annoyed and 90% quite happy about the result.

Not sure about this. I've already gotten my shipping email and the tracking number is live. I should be getting it Friday.

My order status still says Pending =( I ordered on Saturday

 Samurai_Eduh wrote:

Loopstah wrote:
Looks like there are delays with the Munitorium edition. It won't be available for collection until Wednesday 28th due to an issue with it.

I imagine all the people who ordered one will be 10% annoyed and 90% quite happy about the result.

Not sure about this. I've already gotten my shipping email and the tracking number is live. I should be getting it Friday.

Could be a UK only thing then? Mine is definitely delayed until next Wednesday and I pre-ordered at about 7:15 last Friday.

GW have been emailing people who are getting a delay.

How do you know if yours is delayed?

Noctem wrote:
How do you know if yours is delayed?

GW will email you.

It could just be a UK delay though.

Oh wow, just checked the tracking number again and delivery is now slated for tomorrow, 5/21!

 Samurai_Eduh wrote:
Oh wow, just checked the tracking number again and delivery is now slated for tomorrow, 5/21!

Make sure you spill the beans tomorrow night then.

I really want to know about Santic daemonology, precision shot and heavy vehicles.

 Samurai_Eduh wrote:
Oh wow, just checked the tracking number again and delivery is now slated for tomorrow, 5/21!

Lucky!!!

Hmm worries me that I haven't gotten a tracking number, and order is pending on the site...

Latest from Archibald_TK over at warseer:

"I suppose I may dump a few info here unless someone already did it before. This is what I recall with my goldfish memory:

- Snapshots are at BS1 sorry.
- Psykers level, Iron Will... only affect abjuration when you are targeted by the power, dispelling blessing requires natural rolls of 6, have fun.
- Chariots now gives relentless to the passenger, their rules were totally reworked so that they are more of a single entity with their passenger.
- Peril table, only a third is a real issue and a decent leadership severely diminish its impact. worse, one effect turns your psyker into superman for a turn. Another drains psychic dice for both players."

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Even if it didn't, they would say it did.

Can't have the truth out there, can we?

They haven't done that with the rest of the LE's that didn't sell out. They send a few emails with "quick, there's less than 200 left", and then swap them between stores.

Tyfus wrote:
Latest from Archibald_TK over at warseer:

"I suppose I may dump a few info here unless someone already did it before. This is what I recall with my goldfish memory:

- Snapshots are at BS1 sorry.
- Psykers level, Iron Will... only affect abjuration when you are targeted by the power, dispelling blessing requires natural rolls of 6, have fun.
- Chariots now gives relentless to the passenger, their rules were totally reworked so that they are more of a single entity with their passenger.
- Peril table, only a third is a real issue and a decent leadership severely diminish its impact. worse, one effect turns your psyker into superman for a turn. Another drains psychic dice for both players."

These, I like. I'm not sure why, but I do!

Tyfus wrote:
Latest from Archibald_TK over at warseer:

"I suppose I may dump a few info here unless someone already did it before. This is what I recall with my goldfish memory:

- Snapshots are at BS1 sorry.
- Psykers level, Iron Will... only affect abjuration when you are targeted by the power, dispelling blessing requires natural rolls of 6, have fun.
- Chariots now gives relentless to the passenger, their rules were totally reworked so that they are more of a single entity with their passenger.
- Peril table, only a third is a real issue and a decent leadership severely diminish its impact. worse, one effect turns your psyker into superman for a turn. Another drains psychic dice for both players."

So that Demons burning chariot will be usable now? That's good news at least.

Chariots finally useful!?

Sounds too good, so must be false.

Herzlos wrote:

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Even if it didn't, they would say it did.

Can't have the truth out there, can we?

They haven't done that with the rest of the LE's that didn't sell out. They send a few emails with "quick, there's less than 200 left", and then swap them between stores.

There were 2000 available when pre orders went live.

Currently, they're showing over 350 available on the UK site, and over 400 available on the US site. So that's almost half accounted for without all the territories that don't have an "only x available" stamp on their website.

That's pretty grim in terms of sales then. Possibly only 1000 sold?

I think the sales for the standards will be find but a special edition that's 4x the normal cost is a bit much even for hardcores to swallow. I like what seems to actually come in it but LE 40k stuff just isn't my bag. I'd rather buy the rulebook and Horus Heresy 2 & 3 for the same price.

Wait, cheaper....

Tyfus wrote:
- Snapshots are at BS1 sorry.

Sad news indeed
I really liked the -2BS rumor

Anyone every confirm/deny the rumor that no moving gave BS2 snapfire? I'm assuming it was not true, since that would be game changing (esp for IG and Tau) if true.

Herzlos wrote:
That's pretty grim in terms of sales then. Possibly only 1000 sold?

Yeah they only made £200,000 from about £100 worth of paper and carboard, sounds really grim :(

 xttz wrote:

Herzlos wrote:
That's pretty grim in terms of sales then. Possibly only 1000 sold?

Yeah they only made £200,000 from about £100 worth of paper and carboard, sounds really grim :(

Indeed, but these collectors editions (of larger runs) used to sell out in hours rather than days or weeks, so there are a lot less buyers.

 gozer il gozeriano wrote:

Tyfus wrote:
- Snapshots are at BS1 sorry.

Sad news indeed
I really liked the -2BS rumor

No, I think it would make snapshots too powerful. At -4BS I could get behind it. Now really high does some good, but everyone else is just hoping.

Herzlos wrote:

 xttz wrote:

Herzlos wrote:
That's pretty grim in terms of sales then. Possibly only 1000 sold?

Yeah they only made £200,000 from about £100 worth of paper and carboard, sounds really grim :(

Indeed, but these collectors editions (of larger runs) used to sell out in hours rather than days or weeks, so there are a lot less buyers.

That's the only way they are going to listen.

Samurai_Eduh wrote:Oh wow, just checked the tracking number again and delivery is now slated for tomorrow, 5/21!

Hooray! Share any tau-relevant information, mate!

Tyfus wrote:Latest from Archibald_TK over at warseer:

"I suppose I may dump a few info here unless someone already did it before. This is what I recall with my goldfish memory:

- Snapshots are at BS1 sorry.
- Psykers level, Iron Will... only affect abjuration when you are targeted by the power, dispelling blessing requires natural rolls of 6, have fun.
- Chariots now gives relentless to the passenger, their rules were totally reworked so that they are more of a single entity with their passenger.
- Peril table, only a third is a real issue and a decent leadership severely diminish its impact. worse, one effect turns your psyker into superman for a turn. Another drains psychic dice for both players."

I didn't get the meaning of the bolded part. Abjuration = Blessings? And what's Iron Will - Adamantium Will, perhaps? Makes sense if its bonus does not help denying Blessings
Chariots giving Relentless? Finally!

Shandara wrote:Chariots finally useful!?

Sounds too good, so must be false.

Ha! Have an exalt!

More from same source at warseer:

"Going from memory yes wounds/HP loss are here on the majority of effects, usually as the "better" effect that you get from a successful Ld test (results on the table read as "Take Ld test, success= suffers this, failure= suffers that). The most favorable result nets you a 3++ save and I think the additional effects are smash, armorbane and fleshbane until the next Psychic phase (I was reading a foreign page and understanding what a translated USR is can be a real pain).

Allies table made me laugh. They don't even bother separating the Imperial Forces (I'm pretty sure even the GK were bundled into it). The table read like this:
Imperial Forces: We welcome our new glorious Overlords, here is a cake.
Other peasants: You shall be ashamed for not being Imperial and we will ensure you will be.

Battle Brothers share basically everything, Powers, abilities, transports, Warlord traits, Reserve altering effects."

And even more:

"Immobilized results affect flyers differently now, they have a chance to immediately send it Crash and Burn. Coupled with Target Lock now serving a purpose on non-blast weapons, it ends up being a nice boost to the poor DA flyer."