40k 7th Edition release 24th may - All info in 1st post, psychic power cards added (5/21)

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**Garion**

Now we need only the FAQ... I wonder where they will put them on the website...

**Hollismason**

So does infiltrate confer to the Dedicated Transport a unit comes with?

**Garion**

Yes it does

**Toburk**

Peregrine wrote:
You'll see the same thing happening with psykers: the WD article talks about how psykers needed to be more powerful because everyone at GW always uses things like melee captains and chaplains instead. Meanwhile out in the real world librarians are pretty much the only HQ in C:SM unless you're taking a bike army, and the new rules make powerful units even more powerful.

I caught that comment too. Doesn't 6th edition make so much sense now that we know GW's internal meta was chaplain heavy, melee Space Marine lists?

No, not really I guess.

**Hollismason**

Garion wrote:
Yes it does

So you could havea infiltrating Land Raider if you could some how give Scout and Infiltrate to a squad that could take it?

**WrentheFaceless**

Garion wrote:
Now we need only the FAQ... I wonder where they will put them on the website...

Hopefully on the front page of GW in big bold letters

**Garion**

You only need Infiltrate. And you must deploy that unit inside the LR

**Magc8Ball**

Hollismason wrote:
Garion wrote:
Yes it does

So you could havea infiltrating Land Raider if you could some how give Scout and Infiltrate to a squad that could take it?

Only if said Land Raider was taken as a dedicated transport.

**Hollismason**

Yet there's a warlord trait that allows you to select units to have Infiltrate now correct?

**Garion**

Yes but I'm not sure it will work. The trait specify that the 3 units must be "non vehicles"

**Sigvatr**

Magc8Ball wrote:

Well, alright then. Rephrased: Interceptor no longer allows Skyfire weapons to fire at ground targets at full BS.

Anyone got conformation on that? Seems weird.

**Hollismason**

Garion wrote:
Yes but I'm not sure it will work. The trait specify that the 3 units must be "non vehicles"

Select the unit that the Vehicle belongs to as a dedicated transport. It gains infiltrate.

**Garion**

It's true. Interceptor no longer allow that

**whembly**

Garion wrote:
It's true. Interceptor no longer allow that

Erm... does that mean that helldrakes can't use it's Baleflamer while flying???

**Desubot**

whembly wrote:
Garion wrote:
It's true. Interceptor no longer allow that

Erm... does that mean that helldrakes can't use it's Baleflamer while flying???

Dont they chose whether or not to have skyfire

**Matt.Kingsley**

Heldrakes never had interceptor, the flyer rules stated that before shooting they could choose to or not to use Skyfire.

7th could have changed that, though.

**Garion**

Flyers can still choose to use Skyfire or not

**WrentheFaceless**

Flyers are unchanged, I think someone with the book earlier in this thread you still choose to skyfire or not.

Though I wasnt aware you could skyfire with a template weapon

**whembly**

Garion wrote:
Flyers can still choose to use Skyfire or not

Whew... thanks!

**gigasnail**

You can't.

**Vector Strike**

whembly wrote:
Garion wrote:
It's true. Interceptor no longer allow that

Erm... does that mean that helldrakes can't use it's Baleflamer while flying???

you're thinking Skyfire. Interceptor allowed a weapon with Skyfire rule (like the quad-gun from aegis defence line) to shoot at land targets with normal BS. Now it doesn't give this permission anymore - BS full only against skimmers, flyers and swooping FMCs.

Flyers aren't touched by this

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Garion wrote:
Now we need only the FAQ... I wonder where they will put them on the website...

They hide them on the Black Library site now

http://www.blacklibrary.com/faqs-and-errata.html

**Vector Strike**

WrentheFaceless wrote:
Flyers are unchanged, I think someone with the book earlier in this thread you still choose to skyfire or not.

Though I wasnt aware you could skyfire with a template weapon

and they can. Baleflamer must be used against non-flying stuff. The Autocannon can, though.

**Sigvatr**

So really, Flyers get another massive buff?

Oh dear lord, if this is real, I am done with 40k. Like, really GW. Really. Lord.

**Garion**

uhm no, not really. They are still the same in that respect

It's things like quad guns that got nerfed a bit

**Azreal13**

Vector Strike wrote:
WrentheFaceless wrote:
Flyers are unchanged, I think someone with the book earlier in this thread you still choose to skyfire or not.

Though I wasnt aware you could skyfire with a template weapon

and they can. Baleflamer must be used against non-flying stuff. The Autocannon can, though.

Or simply VS a flier, then use the Baleflamer to make some other unit's life a misery?

**Mr Morden**

Garion wrote:
Hollismason wrote:
Confirmation on if you have Scout and Infiltrate you can infiltrate and then scout move? T/F?

True

My Dominon Squads do like the sound of that!

**Sigvatr**

That is the problem. AA is very costly and was only made viable because of it also being able to shoot at ground targets. This allowed everyone to effectively counter flyers. If this is lost, now, flyers get a big buff.

Holy crap, even our youngbloods would be better rules writers than those "vets" GW has employed.

**Garion**

Well... we got rules for selling daemons so a rule for selling flyers is not so surprising

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And if you add that the rules for the ADF and the icarus / quad gun are no longer in the book ...

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Mr Morden wrote:
Garion wrote:
Hollismason wrote:
Confirmation on if you have Scout and Infiltrate you can infiltrate and then scout move? T/F?

True

My Dominon Squads do like the sound of that!

My Wave Serpents too

**Hollismason**

Soul Grinders just became a almost must have for Daemon Armies. You can have 6 of them now and then give them all 4+ Reroll 1s. That's pretty fun! Oh and the rest of your army can just summon more dudes.