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Hamilton Ontario Canada

So with 6th edition books and the Dark Vengeance sets being pulled from the store shelves. It would seem that 7th edition is coming sooner rather than later.

So my question is, what do you expect to change? What do you think needs work? What do you hope will change?

For me, the Allies rules need some fixing and maybe even the Force Org Chart overhaul is due. I would also like to see assault rules strengthen and vehicles becoming more durable.

What say you?

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I expect things to change but the overall quality to remain the same.

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I expect nothing more than a bundling of all the "expansions" into the main rulebook.

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I'm not holding my breath but I'd love to see a rule that limits SC to the Primary Detachment only.

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I hope that if 7th ed realy happens soon , the AM codex won't suffer from last in the old edition syndrom .
   
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I suspect we're getting 6.5 rather than a true 7. Fixes and tweaks rather than changes.

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Perth

Makumba wrote:
I hope that if 7th ed realy happens soon , the AM codex won't suffer from last in the old edition syndrom .

you mean like necrons suffered coming into 6th edition?

id be hoping that the first codex out isnt as lame as CSM.
BB to be nerfed to death
it should include the new stuff, escelation and fortifications, because the couple that were in there were woefully inadequate.
folding the FAQ and errata in.
spelling mistakes fixed.
i could keep going on haha

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Do you think that the Assault Phase will be changed in any way?

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Perth

doubt it, one rule i wouldnt mind seeing re introduced would be the old "hunker down" style rule.
it was instead of moving and shooting, you could hunker down, basically go to ground, and then overwatch, this could quite handily replace the current overwatch, as "cinematically" your preparing to be assaulted. it might confer overwatch at a FULL bs, but thats ok, because you didnt shoot during your own turn

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I expect a sidegrade that changes a few things but not as many as normal whilst largely leaving the game to be a mess whilst incorporating Apoc vehicles and the sorts in.

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Personally I'd love to see the game attain balance between shooting and assaulting, but I doubt it.

The only thing I would really like to see is Escalation and Stronghold assaults main rules being incorporated into the basic rulebook, no more would people be able to say its a supplement. Of course considering my FLGS they'll still probably say no but at least they will have to admit its a house rule.

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Rapid City, SD

I hope they roll escalation and stronghold assault into the book making Lord of War 100% legal in any game I choose. I will finally be able to give those netlists/tournament armies/triptide lists a taste of what its like to be stomped on in as little as 1250 points.

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Just give me back assaulting from transports. All I ask for right now.
   
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Hopefully they will define the "Relentless Smash" special rule that FMCs have.

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I'm going to assume it'll be a horrible flaming trainwreck covered in fecal matter. That way if it's anything better than that I'll be pleased, and if it's a horrible flaming trainwreck covered in fecal matter I'm already mentally ready to deal with it.
   
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 ClockworkZion wrote:
I'm going to assume it'll be a horrible flaming trainwreck covered in fecal matter. That way if it's anything better than that I'll be pleased, and if it's a horrible flaming trainwreck covered in fecal matter I'm already mentally ready to deal with it.


Kindda' this tbh..
   
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Assault from Reserves and I'm happy. No restrictions on first turn assaults either.

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 SHUPPET wrote:
Assault from Reserves and I'm happy. No restrictions on first turn assaults either.


This would basically mean your assault units could never be seen prior to the assault. May as well be running around playing CoD with a permanent invisibility hack on.

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All I'm expecting is an incorporation of FAQs into the BRB, and incorporation of Escalation and Stronghold rules into the BRB.

And that's it.
   
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 Xerics wrote:
 SHUPPET wrote:
Assault from Reserves and I'm happy. No restrictions on first turn assaults either.


This would basically mean your assault units could never be seen prior to the assault. May as well be running around playing CoD with a permanent invisibility hack on.


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I think it will be 6.5 kind of like what D&D did with 3.5, it will bundle the expansions into the main rule book and fix some of the little problems but I would not expect any changes to the main rules such as assault. The new starter kit sounds coll and it will be cheaper well that is what I was told won't know until it hit the shelves
   
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Canada

Expectations:
- As previously mentioned, the escalation and stronghold roll-in.

- Some tweaks to "special rules".

- Some new re-imagining of the overwatch method.

- Just remove the random assault range...

- They will probably have another change to allocating the wounds to the closest model.

- They may even mess with the Allie chart again... maybe BT and SoB can play together...

- Make it so you can assault out of a vehicle but not get the extra attack unless it is open topped or has an assault ramp.

Anyway, this is just wishing again, we will see how it goes soon.

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 Kain wrote:
I expect nothing more than a bundling of all the "expansions" into the main rulebook.


I don't even see this. Why would GW give the books for free, unless they are charging $200+ for the rule book?

I see more of the like, 6th edition staying the same, maybe with the FAQs in it, but with a statement one page or paragraph, saying something to the effect of of Stronghold Assault, Escalation, and data slates are "legal" for normal 40K games. Of course nothing will be mentioned about Forge World though, so the debate will still continue for that.

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Zewrath wrote:
 ClockworkZion wrote:
I'm going to assume it'll be a horrible flaming trainwreck covered in fecal matter. That way if it's anything better than that I'll be pleased, and if it's a horrible flaming trainwreck covered in fecal matter I'm already mentally ready to deal with it.

Kindda' this tbh..

It's my approach to pretty much everything. If I set my expectations low enough I'm rarely in a situation where things are worse than I imagined. It makes it a lot easier to enjoy things too since I'm not swept up in any hype for said things.
   
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Well, I wouldn't expect too much.

The whole system is a mess atm due to all these supplements, dataslates, Escalation and Stronghold.

The new edition should have some ordering function to bring all parts in line.

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I don't expect BB being nerfed at all. Half the armies can BB with each other - nerfing it would be shooting itself in the foot. I expecet Allies in general being nerfed, but not each degree in their core.

I expect an overhaul in the rules, trying to balance melee with shooting.

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I expect that "Imperial Guard" will be updated to "Astra Militarum."

This will be the only change.
   
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 Accolade wrote:
I expect that "Imperial Guard" will be updated to "Astra Militarum."

This will be the only change.

Well that and "Sisters of Battle" going to "Adepta Sororitas".
   
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 ClockworkZion wrote:
 Accolade wrote:
I expect that "Imperial Guard" will be updated to "Astra Militarum."

This will be the only change.

Well that and "Sisters of Battle" going to "Adepta Sororitas".


And just to spite BT players, BT will be changed to "SM using BT Chapter Tactics".

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There will be no references to whatever...battle nuns you are talking about.
   
 
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