How do you feel exactly about the forthcoming 7th editon?

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**happygolucky**

Ok so whilst I know the BRB has not been released yet, I was just wondering on your thoughts about the rules from rumours you have heard from (so take rumours into account)..

For me I'm on the fence about it.

For me I like the ideas and I also like the rumours as I love CC and assault, so to see assault have a comeback or a more relaxed grip is a great thing imo, however as 7th draws closer it also makes me feel more on the edge so to say mainly because all these are rumours and we don't really know for sure what's actually going to change and for me if I'm just waiting for another edition of "shoot with big things" I will be quite disappointed tbh..

Another thing that has me on edge is assault from outflank, whilst I like this idea I used to play against an opponent who spammed outflankers (back in 5th ed.) and it ruined my army (well we did used to pay on a 4x4 board and it was also the time of fleet then assault, so maybe just bad experience's here talking) so I kinda wont be happy if the large proportion of lists I may play against will be outflank central..

So how do you feel about the forthcoming 7th edition? what are your thoughts from what you have seen floating around?

Cheers to all comments

(just a friendly note but some poll answers should not be taken too seriously

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**Vaktathi**

I desperately think 40k needs a new edition, 6th is a mess, but I don't have faith in GW to deliver a product that will fix the present issues. Also, while obviously to be taken with a huge grain of salt, none of the rumors currently roaming around about 7th on here, warseer, bols, faeit212, etc sound like good changes.

**Sir Arun**

I'm super pissed at GW for breaking the 4 year rhythm they had kept up for the past 2 editions. No, I dont have a spare $100 lying around that I'd like to hand them over for including supplements (escalation, stronghold assault) I didnt want in 40k in the first place. Oh, I should just stick to the current edition, then? Yeah, that'll turn out funny when I continue going to GW for my pickup games...seriously. A 25% price increase for the BRB; a starter set that doesnt even contain the full ruleset and a crappy amount of models + needless terrain (battle for macragge déja vu, anyone?) and continuing to scale up 40k instead of fixing things? Thanks, GW. No really, thanks. I love hiding behind a Void Shield Generator with my Imperial Knights toting Thermal Cannons while my teleporting Centurion Deathstar continues to clean house.

**da001**

Vaktathi wrote:
I desperately think 40k needs a new edition, 6th is a mess, but I don't have faith in GW to deliver a product that will fix the present issues. Also, while obviously to be taken with a huge grain of salt, none of the rumors currently roaming around about 7th on here, warseer, bols, faeit212, etc sound like good changes.

^This.

I don´t see an improvement. It just looks like more of the same. Perhaps they are actually fixing something, but my faith in them is quite low at the moment. In my opinion, there was a drop in quality with Codex: GK in 2011, and from there on they have just kept that level. They are releasing things faster, but everything is more expensive and (again, imo) far worse in most senses. I fear a 95% copy-paste of the current rules, not fixing all the broken stuff, breaking more parts of the game instead, adding some random table for whatever reason and charging 99,99$ for that. And another 60$ expansion in less than a year. And a 8th edition in two years if this sells well.

Anyway, it is easy (and fun!) to judge without knowledge. We should wait and see. If this is fixing stuff, I am buying.

Truth be told, I am not sure about my feelings on the matter.

**squidhills**

I'm not actually convinved we're getting a 7th Edition at all. We're definately getting *something* soon, but whether it's a true 7th Ed or just a 6.5 is unclear. I haven't followed the rumor thread here religiously, but most I've what I've seen has been reposts of rumors from other forums, followed by people comparing those other forums' relative accuracy in predicting rumors. Frankly, we'll know when we know.

GW likes holding its cards so close to its chest that its own employees don't know what they are releasing until the day the stuff gets released.

As to whether or not it will be any good... well, as I said before... we'll know if its good when it's released and not before.

Oh, and for the record, I'm not spendign a dime on anything until I know from a trustworthy source that it's worth paying GW's frankly absurd price for.

**Paradigm**

Casually nonchalant. I'll likely be playing 6th for a long time yet, or at the very most just noting down the 7th changes and sticking the sheet in my 6th Ed book.

Last time, I went and bought the BRB within the first week, but this time, there's no way I'm paying more for recycled fluff and artwork, a useless hobby section and some rules that really don't need changing.

If the new starter set has BA in it, I'll buy a few on ebay, but I really can't see myself buying a rulebook any time soon.

**Ailaros**

I'm cautiously optimistic.

GW has its good moments and its bad, of course, but in general the new-and-bad, though particularly egregious, has been vastly outnumbered by the new-and-not-bad. It might not be an improvement, but it's probably not going to be worse than it is right now.

I'd pin it somewhere between more of the same, and slightly different with a couple of things I like. Thus, the cautiously optimistic.

The one strange thing I'm going to do, though, is to wait before I buy the new rulebook. Unlike in the past, there is the chance that it's going to be nothing but a sidegrade, and I want to wait long enough for people to tell me that it's actually different enough to be worth getting before I run out and get it.

**Davor**

I feel nothing. I don't believe 7th edition is coming.

Change yes. 6.5? Maybe or 6th edition redone. I believe it will not be called 7th edition.

**DarknessEternal**

I expect it to be some minor rules improvements with the expansions rolled in. I consider that quite positive.

**Kain**

I doubt it's an actual 7th edition so much as it's a new starter kit and bundling of rules together.

I expect something ridiculous like Blood Angels+Imperial knight s and some inquisition models against Skyblight swarm Tyranids with a plastic heirodule or something silly like that.

**Xca|iber**

Vaktathi wrote:
I desperately think 40k needs a new edition, 6th is a mess, but I don't have faith in GW to deliver a product that will fix the present issues. Also, while obviously to be taken with a huge grain of salt, none of the rumors currently roaming around about 7th on here, warseer, bols, faeit212, etc sound like good changes.

I knew I could count on the first reply to pretty much sum up my feelings on the matter.

+1 to you sir.

**Icculus**

GW just wants my money. And I am going to begrudgingly and slowly buy in to it. But not all at once, and only in pieces as long as the gaming group keeps up, and I continue to have some time to game.

**Roci**

Half of the sites reporting it have conflicting stories that show up on their main pages. There is a chance someone is right out of the bunch... but I am not sold that it is 7th. Just a revision to 6th.. combine some faqs.. roll in esc and sha make the book 100 bucks or so... then carry on...

**Sir Arun**

Well first of all I KNOW for a fact that it is going to be 7th edition.

Because whenever Geedubs releases a new rulebook, it is considered a new edition.

They certainly do not label them "5th", "6th" etc., we do. So if we call the upcoming one "6.5th", then we might as well have called 4th edition 3.5 and so on.

**Psienesis**

Sir Arun wrote:
Well first of all I KNOW for a fact that it is going to be 7th edition.

Because whenever Geedubs releases a new rulebook, it is considered a new edition.

They certainly do not label them "5th", "6th" etc., we do. So if we call the upcoming one "6.5th", then we might as well have called 4th edition 3.5 and so on.

There have been mid-edition upgrades/updates issues. Codex: Chaos Space Marines (3rd edition, 2nd Codex)... or CSM 3.5 as the fans call it... would be an example of such.

**Sir Arun**

Yeah I know that...just like the current sisters. Thats why nobody really keeps track of which "edition" a current army codex right now is, in. But we're talking about the main ruleset here.

**xXWeaponPrimeXx**

I feel cheated.

I only just recently bought 6th edition rules :/

And I'm sure 7th will come with a nice price hike making the book $100 without being collectors edition.

**krazynadechukr**

It's not 7th. See rumor thread. It's revised 6th aka 6.5. All the typos and grammatical errors fixed, all the updates in it, d weapons, new foc charts, stronghold, escalation, and some other stuff....

**xXWeaponPrimeXx**

krazynadechukr wrote:
It's not 7th. See rumor thread. It's revised 6th aka 6.5. All the typos and grammatical errors fixed, all the updates in it, d weapons, new foc charts, stronghold, escalation, and some other stuff....

Then I feel marginally less cheated. And I won't feel cheated at all if they release free errata.

**Psienesis**

krazynadechukr wrote:
It's not 7th. See rumor thread. It's revised 6th aka 6.5. All the typos and grammatical errors fixed, all the updates in it, d weapons, new foc charts, stronghold, escalation, and some other stuff....

There's a reason those are "rumor" threads. Right now, we have no idea what this publication will contain.

**insaniak**

Until we have some actual, solid information on what is coming, there is no way to build any sort of expectation, positive or negative.

I would be excited about a new edition that fixes what I don't like about 6th... but I have no idea if what is coming up will be that edition, so there's nothing to be gained by getting excited about it now.

**Jimsolo**

A) It's too early for a new edition.

B) I'm skeptical about literally everything I've heard. I'll believe it all when I see it.

C) The only rumor that I've heard in regards to changes that seems even remotely credible is the elimination of the FOC in favor of a percentile system, like Fantasy. And I'm not enthused. It seems like a way to make the army selection process more complex without solving the root issues people are having.

D) It's still too damn early.

**Sir Arun**

krazynadechukr wrote:
All the typos and grammatical errors fixed

hahaha you wish

**ninjafiredragon**

happygolucky wrote:
(just a friendly note but some poll answers should not be taken too seriously )]

I think your wrong here. Look at poll results.

**Jaceevoke**

I personally am really hoping that they do include the rules for escalation and stronghold assault, no more its just a supplement. Also if they could put in the new rulebook that Forgeworld is legal that would be wonderful. Besides that I'm apathetic about it, like others have said there just isn't enough information at this time.

**Mysterious Pants**

We'll see. If seventh edition is a masterpiece, I'm up for it. If it's a blatant cashgrab or it's terribly made, its just more fuel for the burning hate-forges.

I don't really see a huge point to talking about the merits of 7th edition- GW hasn't even released any information about it or started preorders. I couldn't find any detailed rumors. Really, seventh edition could be almost anything.

**troa**

My thoughts....Are people need to stop continuing the rumor mongering. The rumors are bouncing between 6.5, 7th, and revised 6th and there's simply too much rumor mongering and assuming by the community with no actual information at this point.

**ace101**

Im just sick and tired of all the 'panic' regarding this new change up in the rulebook (i didn't say new edition, why would you scrap the edition after only two years, invalidating the sparkly new codices you just released), we've already seen evidence that this s just a repack, so can we stop moaning and complaining.

As an aside question, is all of this stupid complaining about 6th edition stemming from a combination of Escal. and how good both the Tau and Eldar codices are compared to the field (with new C:SM, CD and Necrons being close contenders)? Other than Taudar and Escal, most of the edition seems even and balanced (even Tyranids, without Taudar).

**Brother SRM**

From the sounds of it, it seems like it'll be a revised 6th edition, sort of a 6.5, rather than something drastic. I think the game needs a shake up and a rebalancing, and hopefully this'll do. I think 6th worked fine in a vacuum, but once we see things like Taudar, mass Divination, Azblob, rerollable 2++, and so on, it was evident that there were some problems. I'm hoping they're getting fixed instead of persisting another 2+ years like we'd see with the typical 4-5 year cycle.

**ciaotym**

How's this for a rumor - you trade in your old 6th edition BRB and $15 and get the new BRB? I only pay plumbers $100 to fix something...