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Davor wrote:
55 points? That's it? What are you complaining about? After all it's not like you got a point increase and nerfs like us Nids. And not on just one unit as well.

The issues of one codex do not invalidate the issues with other codices.

 Ailaros wrote:
Yes, the entire complaint about all of the new guard codex can be entirely summed up by the fact that a single special character cost the same as he did before...

Not to mention we lost 5 other special character, the underwhelming rough riders increased 10% in points with no buffs.
We lost a bunch of artillery options. but really its all about harker.

Davor wrote:
55 points? That's it? What are you complaining about? After all it's not like you got a point increase and nerfs like us Nids. And not on just one unit as well.

Hey, as a fellow Nids player I feel the pain, but that's hardly an apt comparison.

No codex complaint thread is complete without the obligatory "Well, just be glad you don't play Tyranids!" post.

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
No codex complaint thread is complete without the obligatory "Well, just be glad you don't play Tyranids!" post.

I thought it was blood angels.

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

 DarknessEternal wrote:

 Insane Smile wrote:
Completely useless, which is quite sad :(.

Ok, You play your 1500 point army, and I'll play my 1500 point army that also includes one million Harkers.

If he's completely useless, as you claim, this will be a fair fight.

Hey, you can only fit 27 Harkers in a 1500pt list!

According to that guy, he's "Completely useless". So Harker is worth 0 points in his opinion and no matter how many Harkers you have, it's still worth 0 points. So one million Harkers are still worth nothing.

 DarknessEternal wrote:

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

 DarknessEternal wrote:

 Insane Smile wrote:
Completely useless, which is quite sad :(.

Ok, You play your 1500 point army, and I'll play my 1500 point army that also includes one million Harkers.

If he's completely useless, as you claim, this will be a fair fight.

Hey, you can only fit 27 Harkers in a 1500pt list!

According to that guy, he's "Completely useless". So Harker is worth 0 points in his opinion and no matter how many Harkers you have, it's still worth 0 points. So one million Harkers are still worth nothing.

haha, I knew what you meant, I was just playing dumb (hence the ). Points costs are a big reason why he's being called "useless" though, 55pts is way too much for a single heavy bolter. So I guess the proper assessment would be "grossly overcosted" rather than useless, although in a game based on a points system this makes him extremely unattractive and practically a non-consideration.

Except Harker yields 10VPs if he manages to kill the enemy warlord with Payback.