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Ok, Space Marine players, how are you going to fit in deamons now in your army?

All my heavy hitting gak that fits in the point allowance, simple as.

Space Marine First Company
Captain with artificer or terminator armour and kitted out for killing
Command squad kitted out for killing
No tactical, scout, or assault squads, only fielding sternguard, vanguard, or terminators with support and transport vehicles

Imperial Guard Vanguard Force or DKoK Assault Brigade
All tempestus scions
Tanks, hellhounds, and other close support vehicles

Iron Warriors or Death Korps
A few guardsmen or Chaos space marines with some heavy artillery
Spend everything else on fortifications

 Selym wrote:
While I gathered rather quickly that "unbound" meant no FoC, what does "Battle Forged" mean?

It means you use the FOC and you are supposed to recieve some kind of bonus. But I can't see it being worth the loss of firepower

Either that, or the bonuses are so powerful that there is no point in taking unbound armies. Unlikely, but possible.

Battle Forged bonuses are going to be one of 4 things:

1: Utterly unjustifiable by fluff (+1 starting VP, etc)
2: Be utterly worthless
3: Be cheese (Twin-linked everything. +500 pts [give Tau +500...])

4: By some miracle be good. But probably one of the first three.

In an 1850 Dark Eldar list:

Haemi x3 (cheap and provide pain tokens)

57 Reavers. Variously fitted with Blasters and Heat Lances.

That would give me the ability to be anywhere on the board whenever I wanted (screw flyers) and the power to drop everything from baneblades to infantry with equal ease.

All Emperor's Horses

1) Take as many Rough Riders as possible.
2) Form them into huge cavalry squadrons.
3) Ride now! Ride now! Ride! Ride for ruin and the world's ending! Death! Death! Death!
4) Feel like victor already, because your aura of coolness cant be touched.

 UlrikDecado wrote:
All Emperor's Horses

1) Take as many Rough Riders as possible.
2) Form them into huge cavalry squadrons.
3) Ride now! Ride now! Ride! Ride for ruin and the world's ending! Death! Death! Death!
4) Feel like victor already, because your aura of coolness cant be touched.

And then realize that your opponent brought nothing but LRBT Punishers.

Thats why you have a buddy play the "Ogryn Corps" slab shields for everybody,! Cover saves, cover saves as far as the eye can see!

 Selym wrote:

 UlrikDecado wrote:
All Emperor's Horses

1) Take as many Rough Riders as possible.
2) Form them into huge cavalry squadrons.
3) Ride now! Ride now! Ride! Ride for ruin and the world's ending! Death! Death! Death!
4) Feel like victor already, because your aura of coolness cant be touched.

And then realize that your opponent brought nothing but LRBT Punishers.

Who cares? Im still most awesome general at the table And of course, to good big cavalry charge belongs good massacre of your riders

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell

 UlrikDecado wrote:

 Selym wrote:

 UlrikDecado wrote:
All Emperor's Horses

1) Take as many Rough Riders as possible.
2) Form them into huge cavalry squadrons.
3) Ride now! Ride now! Ride! Ride for ruin and the world's ending! Death! Death! Death!
4) Feel like victor already, because your aura of coolness cant be touched.

And then realize that your opponent brought nothing but LRBT Punishers.

Who cares? Im still most awesome general at the table And of course, to good big cavalry charge belongs good massacre of your riders

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell

I salute you, good and noble Sir!

Nothing but Daemon Princes of Khorne. Let's see... one from C:CSM with power armour costs 180 points, iirc, and wings are a 40pnt upgrade...
10x DP with power armour
1x DP with wings

1 x Fateweaver
4 x Lords of Change (loads of gifts and powers)

Scarabs. Scarabs everywhere.
I will eat your METAHL BAWKSES like cakes. Iron, box shaped pastries with tasty human filling.

Finnaly this guys wet dream comes true.

Gameworkshop should allow the C'tans to have their own army in the future and their own codex of course.

Story could be a good amount of C'tans have joined together, combing their powers or are just working together to take revenge on the Necrons.

HQ
C'tan Lord

Elites
Decendant C'tan

Troops
C'tan Fragment
C'tan Shard

This may seem unbalanced but they could make it balance, just look at the Inquisitors, they are all powerful and they have their own codex and army.




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Finnaly I can include the Felllowship of the Ring in my all Avatar Eldar army.

 The Grumpy Eldar wrote:
2K
Typhus, 412 zombles.

This, vs the 10 Riptide list, now that would be fun and hilarious to watch!

Abaddon the Despoiler

10 x Chaos Terminators
- 2 x Reaper Autocannon
- 2 x Powerfist
- 2 x Lightning Claw
- 2 x Chainfist
- 10 x Mark of Slaanesh
- 1 x Icon of Excess

5 x Chaos Terminators
- 1 x Reaper Autocannon
- 1 x Powerfist
- 1 x Chainfist

5 x Chaos Terminators
- 1 x Reaper Autocannon
- 1 x Powerfist
- 1 x Chainfist

3 x Chaos Terminators
- 3 x Combi-Meltas
- 1 x Powerfist

3 x Chaos Terminators
- 3 x Combi-Meltas
- 1 x Powerfist

3 x Chaos Terminators
- 3 x Combi-Meltas
- 1 x Powerfist

1500 points

"pride of the legion"

chapter master
1 honour guard
land raider

repeat until satisfied.

Commissars, only commissars.
None can stand against the pointy hat power.

Helldrakes. Helldrakes and forge/mauler fiends with a CSM mechanic (the name alludes me right now) - such cheese much dakka

I see that psykers can roll to summon Daemons. Including Blood Thirsters.
I like the sound of that.

Depending on the exact wording of the rules on 'unbound' or the Daemon Summoning:

1850pts, Eldar

Eldar: 47 Warlocks, Eldrad.

Or, if it costs 2 warp charges to summon a Greater Daemon:
23 Spirit Seers, Eldrad

Trasvi wrote:
I see that psykers can roll to summon Daemons. Including Blood Thirsters.
I like the sound of that.

Depending on the exact wording of the rules on 'unbound' or the Daemon Summoning:

1850pts, Eldar

Eldar: 47 Warlocks, Eldrad.

Or, if it costs 2 warp charges to summon a Greater Daemon:
23 Spirit Seers, Eldrad

How do pskyers summon daemons on the TT game? I've never heard of that rule before...

 Selym wrote:

 koooaei wrote:
180 boyz. Oh wait...

~1080 pts.
What on earth do you orky players do for 1999 pts games?

Actually - completely legal list - 2000 exactly:

HQ

Warboss (160pts) Attack squig, Bosspole, Cybork body, Power klaw, Shoota/skorcha kombi-weapon, Stikkbombs, Warbike

Elites

4 Nobz (310pts)
Nob - Cybork body, Power klaw, Slugga, Waaagh! banner, Warbike
Nob - Bosspole, Choppa, Cybork body, Shoota/skorcha kombi-weapon, Warbike
Nob - Cybork body, Power klaw, Slugga, Warbike
Painboy - 'Urty syringe, Cybork body, Dok's tools, Grot orderly, Warbike

Troops (1530pts)

30 Ork Boyz (255pts) - 3x Rokkit launcha, Nob - 'Eavy armour, Bosspole, Power klaw
30 Ork Boyz (255pts) - 3x Rokkit launcha, Nob - 'Eavy armour, Bosspole, Power klaw
30 Ork Boyz (255pts) - 3x Rokkit launcha, Nob - 'Eavy armour, Bosspole, Power klaw
30 Ork Boyz (255pts) - 3x Rokkit launcha, Nob - 'Eavy armour, Bosspole, Power klaw
30 Ork Boyz (255pts) - 3x Rokkit launcha, Nob - 'Eavy armour, Bosspole, Power klaw
30 Ork Boyz (255pts) - 3x Rokkit launcha, Nob - 'Eavy armour, Bosspole, Power klaw

 Selym wrote:

Trasvi wrote:
I see that psykers can roll to summon Daemons. Including Blood Thirsters.
I like the sound of that.

Depending on the exact wording of the rules on 'unbound' or the Daemon Summoning:

1850pts, Eldar

Eldar: 47 Warlocks, Eldrad.

Or, if it costs 2 warp charges to summon a Greater Daemon:
23 Spirit Seers, Eldrad

How do pskyers summon daemons on the TT game? I've never heard of that rule before...

There's going to be a demonology lore that allows psykers to summon demons.
According to the white dwarf, every race (barring nids and races that do not have psykers) can take it.
Keep in mind though that White Dwarf also said that every army can take knights.

 Selym wrote:

Trasvi wrote:
I see that psykers can roll to summon Daemons. Including Blood Thirsters.
I like the sound of that.

Depending on the exact wording of the rules on 'unbound' or the Daemon Summoning:

1850pts, Eldar

Eldar: 47 Warlocks, Eldrad.

Or, if it costs 2 warp charges to summon a Greater Daemon:
23 Spirit Seers, Eldrad

How do pskyers summon daemons on the TT game? I've never heard of that rule before...

The 7th ed rumours/white dwarf pics hint at a table that lets you do something with daemons its called the daemonology table iirc

1850pt turny list. orks+deamon allies

HQ:
BigMek SAG
BigMek SAG
BigMek SAG
BigMek SAG
BigMek SAG
BigMek SAG
BigMek SAG
BigMek SAG
BigMek SAG
BigMek SAG
BigMek SAG
BigMek SAG
BigMek SAG
BigMek SAG
BigMek SAG
1465pts

Troops:
10grots
40pts

Deamons

HQ:
Fatewever
300pts

1765pts

So basic 7th ed stratagy here... attach all 15 SAGs to the squad of grots. and shoot and see how many doubles we can roll. and when its a bad double ... or a none double reroll it with fatewever

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
According to the white dwarf, every race (barring nids and races that do not have psykers) can take it.

That sounds familiar.

To be fair, Nids shouldn't summon demons.

Then again, neither should Imperial factions, because heresy.
I have a feeling that 1d4chan is going to have a field day with this...

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
To be fair, Nids shouldn't summon demons.

Then again, neither should Imperial factions.

Not with that attitude. You just gotta do some more narrative forging then it'll all make sense