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There must be a rule which says models cannot fire twice in the same phase right?

Right?

 welshhoppo wrote:
There must be a rule which says models cannot fire twice in the same phase right?

Right?

I guess the way its written you can shoot your bolter and bolt pistol.

 Guilldog wrote:

 welshhoppo wrote:
There must be a rule which says models cannot fire twice in the same phase right?

Right?

I guess the way its written you can shoot your bolter and bolt pistol.

Huzzah!

farrenj wrote:

 Guilldog wrote:

 welshhoppo wrote:
There must be a rule which says models cannot fire twice in the same phase right?

Right?

I guess the way its written you can shoot your bolter and bolt pistol.

Huzzah!

So three shots a shooting phase for MEQ units within rapid fire range?

So reading that is seems Wazdakka can Shoot his Slugga, his KMB AND his DakkaKannons all in one turn?

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
So reading that is seems Wazdakka can Shoot his Slugga, his KMB AND his DakkaKannons all in one turn?

I guess so. I mean it doesnt say you have to select only one weapon, It says select the weapon, shoot, allocate wounds, rinse then repeat with a different weapon...

Does the infantry type allow you to shoot more than one weapon?

What. The. Hell.

There must be more to this. Surely there are some models out there with crazy multiple weapons that can put this to good use.

 welshhoppo wrote:
There must be a rule which says models cannot fire twice in the same phase right?

Right?

I sure hope so.

Unseeablething wrote:
Does the infantry type allow you to shoot more than one weapon?

Dont know if they changed that yet? As of now no it doesnt and it most likely will be the same. You will have to choose one weapon and fire but if they dont specify in the new book the way the new shooting rules are written this can easily be abused.


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 Swastakowey wrote:
What. The. Hell.

There must be more to this. Surely there are some models out there with crazy multiple weapons that can put this to good use.

Obliterators..... they have ALL the heavy weapons.

I take it to mean that first you fire the Bolters from a Marine Tactical Squad, and then you fire the missile launcher, and then the flamer. Or any sequence therein. Three differently named weapon systems in a squad. Probably also has a caveat somewhere in the book that each model can only fire once, so marines with bolters and bolt pistols have to choose.

Just a typically dumbed down phrasing in the rulebook, but it seems obvious (to me at least) that's what they mean.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
I take it to mean that first you fire the Bolters from a Marine Tactical Squad, and then you fire the missile launcher, and then the flamer. Three differently named weapons in a squad. Probably also has a caveat somewhere in the book that each model can only fire once, so marines with bolters and bolt pistols have to choose.

Just a typically dumbed down phrasing in the rulebook.

Thats what im thinking.

Yea it says if the unit has, rather than model. So thats a relief.

The unit technically also has bolt pistols...

Alll aboard the poor wording train to Confusion City and Abuseville!

Choo Choo!

 Blacksails wrote:
The unit technically also has bolt pistols...

Alll aboard the poor wording train to Confusion City and Abuseville!

Choo Choo!

This particular train lacks any braking capability, I am told.

The bits on the side probably explain more. The shorthand sequence we can see is hopefully just simplified.

 Swastakowey wrote:
The bits on the side probably explain more. The shorthand sequence we can see is hopefully just simplified.

Hopefully otherwise gak is gonna get real!

That's why you ride it as far as it can take you. As Blacksails pointed out, models equipped with bolt-pistols form into units that are, therefore, also equipped with bolt-pistols. This... is about the level of quality I've come to expect from GW, in all honesty, and a reflection of their atrocious level of play-testing.

 Psienesis wrote:
That's why you ride it as far as it can take you. As Blacksails pointed out, models equipped with bolt-pistols form into units that are, therefore, also equipped with bolt-pistols. This... is about the level of quality I've come to expect from GW, in all honesty, and a reflection of their atrocious level of play-testing.

Dont wanna be rude, but that is only the quick summary section. The full section is right next to it. It may not be THAT BAD. If it is then yea. Someone needs to ask marky mark in the 7th edition thread.

While I'm all for mocking GW and their general poor writing ability, I think we should keep this in mind;

 Swastakowey wrote:
The bits on the side probably explain more. The shorthand sequence we can see is hopefully just simplified.

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:
That's why you ride it as far as it can take you. As Blacksails pointed out, models equipped with bolt-pistols form into units that are, therefore, also equipped with bolt-pistols. This... is about the level of quality I've come to expect from GW, in all honesty, and a reflection of their atrocious level of play-testing.

Dont wanna be rude, but that is only the quick summary section. The full section is right next to it. It may not be THAT BAD. If it is then yea. Someone needs to ask marky mark in the 7th edition thread.

I sure hope they hired an editor this time

Also supposedly in that section it says something along the lines of "If a model chooses not to fire X weapon type it can then fire Y." so you could have a unit fire bolters and bolt pistols, but the unit firing his pistol would have had to give up firing his bolter to get to the point of firing his pistol.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
I take it to mean that first you fire the Bolters from a Marine Tactical Squad, and then you fire the missile launcher, and then the flamer. Or any sequence therein. Three differently named weapon systems in a squad. Probably also has a caveat somewhere in the book that each model can only fire once, so marines with bolters and bolt pistols have to choose.

Just a typically dumbed down phrasing in the rulebook, but it seems obvious (to me at least) that's what they mean.

I don't see it as 'dumbed down phrasing'. It's just the overview of the Shooting phase. The 6th edition rulebook doesn't say that a model can only shoot one weapon in the shooting phase in the overview of the Shooting phase so why should the 7th edition rulebook do so?

Typically a model can only fire a single shooting weapon in the same phase, although some models, such as vehicles and MC's can shoot two or more. Once a model has fire its maximum number of weapons, it cannot fire again that phase.


Page 31, directly opposite the summary that was posted.

I'm going to be disappointed if I suddenly need to add Scatter Lasers to my Wraithcannon equipped Wraithknight.

Cheers dude.

MarkyMark wrote:
Typically a model can only fire a single shooting weapon in the same phase, although some models, such as vehicles and MC's can shoot two or more. Once a model has fire its maximum number of weapons, it cannot fire again that phase.


Page 31, directly opposite the summary that was posted.

See, all cleared up! Didnt think they'd let you get off 3 shots a turn with regular marines.

The picture is a synopsis of the entire Phase.

The Sky Is Not Falling. (or it isn't due to this)

Yeah just next to it you have a sentence going" first select a weapo, that at least one model in the unit is equipped with, this cannot be a weapon that the unit allready shot with in this phase..."

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
The picture is a synopsis of the entire Phase.

The Sky Is Not Falling. (or it isn't due to this)

im sure it is, just not cause of this. seems i created a little panic for no reason..... oops