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Grey Knights used to be an all metal inquisitor army called Demonhunters but got upgraded to a plastic army with three plastic kits (I think: termies, power armour, dreadknight). Many of these relied on multipurpose units.

Whereas Dark Eldar had a series of plastic releases that put out an entire range in plastic and added a lot of new units to the game.

Which of these do you think GW would adopt as a strategy if they released SoB? One is obviously much less risky and easy to manage but would leave them kind of lacklustre (ie just plastic battle sisters and seraphim), whereas the other carries a lot of risk but would add things to the army and make them more interesting.

If (and hopefully when) SIsters get their cosmetic upgrade, it's going to be 1-3 kits of plastic sisters. Every sister is basically the same unit. One of those units have jump packs. For GK they managed to put that in the same box.

The only thing they'd need to do more than the basic sisters box is the Penitent Engine, and possibly a new upgrade for the Rhino to make a full plastic exorcist.

Depends on hwo much they want to spend on a revamp....

If they wanted to do it properly

There would be a whole new range as they can scrap the metal and start over - as they did for Dark Eldar and to a lesser extent - Necrons
In this case they will want a big "thing" to sell - walking Church or some such
new Sisters squads firing Faith bullets from thier Sacred bolters of Faithfullness.
Likely they would make the Dominons, Celestins, Retributors and Battle Sisters look different - so you have to buy the seperate units.

I'd be happy with new nicely sculpted minis in keeping with the present range - some Exocrist variants, a flyer (Sororitas have their spaceships) and drop pods.

 Purifier wrote:
If (and hopefully when) SIsters get their cosmetic upgrade, it's going to be 1-3 kits of plastic sisters. Every sister is basically the same unit. One of those units have jump packs. For GK they managed to put that in the same box.

The only thing they'd need to do more than the basic sisters box is the Penitent Engine, and possibly a new upgrade for the Rhino to make a full plastic exorcist.

Be a bit boring if they did that though wouldn't it?

No specialist or elite units. No aircraft. No "super" unit.

Getting just the basic troops would also leave the rules very lacklustre since the game is dominated by min max and deathstar units. Your bread and butter units don't cut it. Grey Knights got away with this because all of their units were elite.


Just a personal preference but I actually want them to get rid of the arco flaggelant and penitent engine. They don't feel like Sisters of Battle units, they are actually, literally, the crazy machines the priests wheel out of storage when they're needed. Maybe if the design and unit description changes to make them more clearly part of the SoB army but IMO they just don't fit at all.

No way of knowing until it happens, really. There's definetely some room for multi-purpose kits, and there probably will be some, but they might also make some units more unique or add new ones.

Personally, I wouldn't want them to go too heavy on the multi-kits. Some varied models would be nice. Dominions charging forwards, Retributors adorned with targeting equipment and ammo, Celestians decorated like the elites they are, that sort of variation would be great.

 Mr Morden wrote:
In this case they will want a big "thing" to sell - walking Church or some such

I'm thinking a super heavy. Why you ask? Well, I follow RC Studio on facebook. They make concept art for other companies, among others for GW, and they have this in their gallery, which looks suspiciously like a Sororitas Super heavy tank to me:

Oh. that looks nice.

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Be a bit boring if they did that though wouldn't it?

No specialist or elite units. No aircraft. No "super" unit.

I would expect something to that effect within a new SoB release. Every army gets that stuff these days.

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Just a personal preference but I actually want them to get rid of the arco flaggelant and penitent engine. They don't feel like Sisters of Battle units

Well, they aren't exactly SoB units. They're more from the Ecclesiarchy side of things, who are also represented within the SoB codex.

I'd like them to stay, myself, since it is nice to have that Ecclesiarchial side to the SoB army. And I also think that they look cool.

 Purifier wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
In this case they will want a big "thing" to sell - walking Church or some such

I'm thinking a super heavy. Why you ask? Well, I follow RC Studio on facebook. They make concept art for other companies, among others for GW, and they have this in their gallery, which looks suspiciously like a Sororitas Super heavy tank to me:

Ohh that does look cool

Have you got a link as facebook sends me to a site about painting nails which is not very Sororitas

I think a lot of it would hinge on any changes that would also come with a codex update as well. The way I would think it would go down would be like this:

Box of basic Sisters to represent Battle Sisters, Dominions and Retributors.

Box of 'elite' Sisters for Seraphim and Celestians.

Box for Exorcist and some new variant.

New flyer.

Plastic Canoness.

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Which of these do you think GW would adopt as a strategy if they released SoB?

How big would dragons be if they existed?
Since GW is not going to release new Sisters model, there is no right answer to your question.

Grey knights or Dark Eldar?

Heck, I think SoB has been out so long they're going to get the Wood Elves treatment. Something is going to go in, and an unrelated army with an entirely different miniatures range is going to come out.

Which means, I guess, GK if I'm stuck between those two.

Seconding the request for a link to that company's Facebook page.

It is a pretty cool tank. Though, as I can't see any fleurs on there, it's not necessarily for the Sisters. Could be, though.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Since GW is not going to release new Sisters model, there is no right answer to your question.

You do not, in fact, actually know that!

found it:

https://www.facebook.com/rcstudioart

Yeah its possible they will be done - I was relieved to see the full page pic in 7th Ed

After all Stormtroopers got their own codex............

I think they need a new cc unit and a proper mbt. I'm thinking a variant on the predator with multi meltas for rolling around corners and derping people in the face, and a unit more suited for bubble wrapping celestine

I think it would also be awesome if they got a custom assault drop pod that let the penitent engine assault from in the same turn.

I still don't see GW redoing Sisters. They've put the minimum effort into them as possible without actually squatting them for the past decade. I still have yet to see a single feth given by them.

GW has too many space marine source books to put out. They can't be bothered with SOB.

 MWHistorian wrote:
I still don't see GW redoing Sisters. They've put the minimum effort into them as possible without actually squatting them for the past decade. I still have yet to see a single feth given by them.

GW has too many space marine source books to put out. They can't be bothered with SOB.

Well, why not discontinue the line completely then?

Its more than a little silly that they've been plodding along with keeping them as a "maybe some time in the future" army for so long. I guess once they've bought the IP they refuse to let it go for any reason. Like a dragon guarding its treasure and has one goblet stolen.

 Troike wrote:
You do not, in fact, actually know that!

You do not actually know that dragons do not exist, do you?
Maybe they exist in a hidden cave, or on some other planet. And maybe GW will release new Sisters models. Both are possible!

Sisters are and embarrassment to GW as there's no room for fetish fuel in a 40k predominantly aimed at children.

The main reason they have not been squatted comes down to GW saying they would never discontinue an army and them being given a predominant place in the fluff.

If they ever do get redone (Personally I think there's more chance of a new squat codex) they are going to be dramatically different, there going to play down the nun angle, don't expect the nun with whip and battle bikini unit to survive etc

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Well, why not discontinue the line completely then?

They have actually attempted to make SoB plastics in the past. They do have some desire to work on them more.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
You do not actually know that dragons do not exist, do you?
Maybe they exist in a hidden cave, or on some other planet. And maybe GW will release new Sisters models. Both are possible!

SoB being released isn't really as unbelievable as dragons existing.

SeanDrake wrote:
Sisters are and embarrassment to GW as there's no room for fetish fuel in a 40k predominantly aimed at children.

The main reason they have not been squatted comes down to GW saying they would never discontinue an army and them being given a predominant place in the fluff.

If they ever do get redone (Personally I think there's more chance of a new squat codex) they are going to be dramatically different, there going to play down the nun angle, don't expect the nun with whip and battle bikini unit to survive etc

Cough cough Dark Eldar...cough cough Slaneesh daemons cough cough

cough cough ages 12+ ie teenagers not children cough cough


I don't know where you're getting the impression that GW doesn't have a certain demographic and that they are inherently hostile to that sort of stuff. We already have space elves in latex bikinis with whips. Sisters of battle are actually fairly tame because they're fully clothed and much, much less explicitly sexual than wyches or daemonettes.

SeanDrake wrote:
Sisters are and embarrassment to GW as there's no room for fetish fuel in a 40k predominantly aimed at children.

Not really a valid point. GW is fine with producing Daemonettes and those raunchy Dark Elf models. And the Sisters aren't really "fetish fuel". The Repentia and Mistress could be viewed in that light, but their design has a justification within the fluff.

SeanDrake wrote:
The main reason they have not been squatted comes down to GW saying they would never discontinue an army

Whether or not GW said that is questionable at best. No source has ever been found.

SeanDrake wrote:
they are going to be dramatically different, there going to play down the nun angle

Doubtful. GW seems to have a pretty consistent idea of how they want to portray the SoB. A full update might come with some changes, but I doubt that they would go so far as to completely remove one of the army's defining traits.

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Grey Knights used to be an all metal inquisitor army called Demonhunters but got upgraded to a plastic army with three plastic kits (I think: termies, power armour, dreadknight). Many of these relied on multipurpose units.

Whereas Dark Eldar had a series of plastic releases that put out an entire range in plastic and added a lot of new units to the game.

Which of these do you think GW would adopt as a strategy if they released SoB? One is obviously much less risky and easy to manage but would leave them kind of lacklustre (ie just plastic battle sisters and seraphim), whereas the other carries a lot of risk but would add things to the army and make them more interesting.

Grey Knights existed as a single Squad of Metal Terminator Models and had a 1-2 page pamphlet for rules, once.
Dark Eldar popped up in 3rd ed.

If GW re-inserts the SoB, the Adepta Soritas now, into their main line of products ( ie sold everywhere ), they need plastic Models.
100% of plastic Models.
So either go big or go home.

 Troike wrote:
SoB being released isn't really as unbelievable as dragons existing.

Yes, it is actually more unbelievable .

Grey Knights and Dark Eldar both got really nice updates when their codices came out. The Daemonhunters codex was something like 4 units, and the Dark Eldar had the incredibly awful, 90's miniatures in desperate need of a revamp. Grey Knights certainly didn't compare to the DE though, those guys got new stuff for everything.

The Sororitas definitely aren't going to get updated anywhere near what the DE got though. GW has a very specific theme in mind for their Imperial stuff, and Sisters fit that to a tee. They couldn't suddenly change them without altering all the rest of their Imperial insignias and paraphernalia.

 Badablack wrote:
Grey Knights and Dark Eldar both got really nice updates when their codices came out. The Daemonhunters codex was something like 4 units, and the Dark Eldar had the incredibly awful, 90's miniatures in desperate need of a revamp. Grey Knights certainly didn't compare to the DE though, those guys got new stuff for everything.

The Sororitas definitely aren't going to get updated anywhere near what the DE got though. GW has a very specific theme in mind for their Imperial stuff, and Sisters fit that to a tee. They couldn't suddenly change them without altering all the rest of their Imperial insignias and paraphernalia.

I am pretty sure any new plastic models would keep the same space nun theme and insignia. They just have to keep angelic, nuns, gothic, armor and you've pretty much got the general theme. Not sure what you're getting at exactly here. They can add new units consistant with the theme. GW has never had a problem with releasing extra units for its imperial armies.

What will probably happen is a plastic box of 10 sisters that can be made into any of the foot slogging units you get.

Then maybe a plastic 5 (wo)man command squad and a 5 strong unit of the jetpack ladies(in finecrack )

You'll probably also get a shiny new plastic vehicle of some kind.

Everything else will remain the same pretty much.

 Grey Templar wrote:
What will probably happen is a plastic box of 10 sisters that can be made into any of the foot slogging units you get.

Then maybe a plastic 5 (wo)man command squad and a 5 strong unit of the jetpack ladies(in finecrack )

You'll probably also get a shiny new plastic vehicle of some kind.

Everything else will remain the same pretty much.

SoB will deffo be in 5 man squads. MT treatment.

 Grey Templar wrote:
What will probably happen is a plastic box of 10 sisters that can be made into any of the foot slogging units you get.

Then maybe a plastic 5 (wo)man command squad and a 5 strong unit of the jetpack ladies(in finecrack )

You'll probably also get a shiny new plastic vehicle of some kind.

Everything else will remain the same pretty much.

Well...

I don't think they would combine a troop unit with an elite unit.

IMO if they did it would be like

Sisters of Battle 10 woman squad

Seraphim/some new elite jump unit probs with melee or weapons

Celestians/some other elite unit

Theres a big question mark over Dominions and Retributors. They are essentially just regular battle sisters ala Space marine devastator squad but aren't that unique. IMO they could keep the name but change the role and weapon types used by these squads. Its impossible to field them without the weapon options which won't be available in a ten figure box. But its a lot of effort to release seperate boxes of identical models with the weapon options. So, IMO, tehy'll have to either give them new unique weapons or completely change the nature of one or both squads. Can definetly see this with dominions.

But maybe Dominions/Retributors could be combined?

Personally I'd prefer that they focus on new infantry rather than updating the tanks which IMO have nothing wrong with them at all. Just give the exorcist an ability to skyfire.

Still, my point is that with 4 kits you could make seven different types of units.




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 Ashiraya wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
What will probably happen is a plastic box of 10 sisters that can be made into any of the foot slogging units you get.

Then maybe a plastic 5 (wo)man command squad and a 5 strong unit of the jetpack ladies(in finecrack )

You'll probably also get a shiny new plastic vehicle of some kind.

Everything else will remain the same pretty much.

SoB will deffo be in 5 man squads. MT treatment.

Not the core troop choice. It would be suicide for GW to charge £20 for five basic battle sisters when every other troop choice in the game at that points level come in ten figure boxes. They would be charging the same amount of money for a squad of battle sisters as for one of their elite units for instance. Would you bother buying tactical marines if they cost as much as terminators?

 Totalwar1402 wrote:



Not the core troop choice. It would be suicide for GW to charge £20 for five basic battle sisters when every other troop choice in the game at that points level come in ten figure boxes. They would be charging the same amount of money for a squad of battle sisters as for one of their elite units for instance. Would you bother buying tactical marines if they cost as much as terminators?

Not MT scions.