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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 20:54:39
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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cincydooley wrote:She's full of it. If it was "such a nightmare" she wouldn't be going on the view and if she wanted to keep it a secret she certainly wouldn't have shared it with someone at a frat party.
Well she told the person in the belief that it was to be kept secret, so it seems the problem was trusting the wrong person. She went on The View after being outed, as it were, in direct response to the harassment she received when it was found out. Doing porn isn't an excuse for threatening people or harassing them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:02:10
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
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I think its disgusting that people are defending the harassment and abuse she received over being a porn star. She fethed someone on camera for money so what. That doesn't mean she deserves to be called a slut, whore or whatever else and treated like gak because of it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:12:52
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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daedalus wrote:
Maybe. Based on some of the comments, I honestly can't tell anymore.
That's clearly who I was talking about. Automatically Appended Next Post: carlos13th wrote:I think its disgusting that people are defending the harassment and abuse she received over being a porn star. She fethed someone on camera for money so what. That doesn't mean she deserves to be called a slut, whore or whatever else and treated like gak because of it.
No, it doesn't. But you have to be pretty obtuse to think people wouldn't have some judgmental opinions on it. Again, she made all the choices on her own. Every one of them.
None of that means that when I get home I'm not going to find and watch her film.
As a memorial, of course. Automatically Appended Next Post: Ahtman wrote:. Doing porn isn't an excuse for threatening people or harassing them.
I agree with the threatening part. I think if you do something that is "against the norm" it's a reasonable expectation that people may criticize you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:19:18
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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Battlefield Tourist
MN (Currently in WY)
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Ensis Ferrae wrote:The thing that I dont understand, and probably never will, is how it's completely not OK that this girl from Minnesota does a porn film, and is harrassed to the point of suicide for it; But that girl from Duke does the same thing and she either doesn't get near the amount of harassment for it, or she gets more support from friends, etc.
Is it really that much different from NC to MN? Are the cultures in the two places still that far apart that the same career choices (if you want to call a single film a career) have such drastically different outcomes?
As someone from MN I will say that yes there is a HUGE culture difference.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:19:49
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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carlos13th wrote:I think its disgusting that people are defending the harassment and abuse she received over being a porn star. She fethed someone on camera for money so what. That doesn't mean she deserves to be called a slut, whore or whatever else and treated like gak because of it.
Wait. she is one. She meets the complete legal definition. Truth is a defense. Sorry.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:21:56
Subject: Re:Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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Please cite the legal definition of the phrase "slut" and/or "whore".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:22:48
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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MN (Currently in WY)
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There is a legal definition for "slut" now?
I hope I misunderstood your comment Fraz.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:24:04
Subject: Re:Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Ouze wrote:Please cite the legal definition of the phrase "slut" and/or "whore".
Prostitute: someone who has sex for money.
If you don't like the crime, don't do the time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:24:18
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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Some incredibly poor taste and crass comments.
Probably the worst I've seen on Dakka, actually.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:24:45
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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MrDwhitey wrote:Some incredibly poor taste and crass comments.
Probably the worst I've seen on Dakka, actually.
Just some of? We'll have to try harder.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:25:31
Subject: Re:Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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Amazingly, I don't mean you for once Frazzled.
You know I hate you but I'm not gonna lie to feed my hate.
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Prestor Jon wrote:Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:25:35
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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Frazzled wrote: MrDwhitey wrote:Some incredibly poor taste and crass comments.
Probably the worst I've seen on Dakka, actually.
Just some of? We'll have to try harder.
I'll be trying plenty hard in a few hours when I track down this casting couch video.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:25:44
Subject: Re:Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Frazzled wrote: Ouze wrote:Please cite the legal definition of the phrase "slut" and/or "whore".
Prostitute: someone who has sex for money.
If you don't like the crime, don't do the time.
California v Freeman says, legally speaking, adult film stars are not prostitutes. I think you've made a false equivocation.
In any event, tormenting someone who has made poor life choices really says more about the people who do the tormenting than the person on the receiving end.
But that's how we roll, I guess.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:26:12
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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Hallowed Canoness
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cincydooley wrote:None of that means that when I get home I'm not going to find and watch her film.
As a memorial, of course.
Because watching a porn movie that did not made the life of its actress so bad she committed suicide would not be as enjoyable to you?
Frazzled wrote:Wait. she is one. She meets the complete legal definition. Truth is a defense. Sorry.
There is a legal definition of slut and whore now?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:26:15
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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MrDwhitey wrote:Some incredibly poor taste and crass comments.
Probably the worst I've seen on Dakka, actually.
This is nothing compared to drunk posting or the frequent torture fantasies. Or even the drunk torture fantasies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:27:09
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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-Shrike- wrote: MrDwhitey wrote:Some incredibly poor taste and crass comments.
Probably the worst I've seen on Dakka, actually.
This is nothing compared to drunk posting or the frequent torture fantasies. Or even the drunk torture fantasies.
The thing is, I generally fully expect those so I'm more... used to that.
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Prestor Jon wrote:Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:27:34
Subject: Re:Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Thats California. The legal nature of the porn industry is dubious at best. You don't want to argue that road.
Sorry my point stands, and nor was I arguing the legality of it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:28:34
Subject: Re:Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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Hallowed Canoness
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Frazzled wrote: Ouze wrote:Please cite the legal definition of the phrase "slut" and/or "whore".
Prostitute: someone who has sex for money.
And that is neither the definition of slut nor the definition of whore, that is the definition of prostitute. Not likely a legal definition either, it lacks the usual verbiage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:29:39
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Because watching a porn movie that did not made the life of its actress so bad she committed suicide would not be as enjoyable to you?
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I'm not sure I understand what you're staying so I'll clarify:
I'm going to jerk off to her video later provided I can find it.
As a memorial.
And so we're clear: I do not think she was necessarily a slut or whore. I think she simply wanted to have sex for money and have it videotaped.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:30:54
Subject: Re:Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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Battlefield Tourist
MN (Currently in WY)
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Frazzled wrote:
Thats California. The legal nature of the porn industry is dubious at best. You don't want to argue that road.
Sorry my point stands, and nor was I arguing the legality of it.
For the second time in this thread....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:32:13
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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Hallowed Canoness
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cincydooley wrote:I'm not sure I understand what you're staying so I'll clarify: I'm going to jerk off to her video later provided I can find it. As a memorial.
Well, that is a great idea! Why not also picketing her funeral with some “God hate fags” and “She will burn in hell” signs too while you are at it? You know, as a memorial.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:33:56
Subject: Re:Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Frazzled wrote: Ouze wrote:Please cite the legal definition of the phrase "slut" and/or "whore".
Prostitute: someone who has sex for money.
And that is neither the definition of slut nor the definition of whore, that is the definition of prostitute. Not likely a legal definition either, it lacks the usual verbiage. For clarity I'm discussing only the whore reference. Thats exactly what that is. I am not arguing the legality of it. I am not arguing the morality of it. I'm arguing you can't get butthurt when someone calls someone else what their profession is. Its not like they were calling her a lawyer or something.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:35:13
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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cincydooley wrote: Frazzled wrote: MrDwhitey wrote:Some incredibly poor taste and crass comments.
Probably the worst I've seen on Dakka, actually.
Just some of? We'll have to try harder.
I'll be trying plenty hard in a few hours when I track down this casting couch video.
For research purposes of course!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:35:38
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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MN (Currently in WY)
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cincydooley wrote: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Because watching a porn movie that did not made the life of its actress so bad she committed suicide would not be as enjoyable to you?
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I'm not sure I understand what you're staying so I'll clarify:
I'm going to jerk off to her video later provided I can find it.
As a memorial.
And so we're clear: I do not think she was necessarily a slut or whore. I think she simply wanted to have sex for money and have it videotaped.
Countdown to thread lockage has begun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:37:52
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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Easy E wrote: cincydooley wrote: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Because watching a porn movie that did not made the life of its actress so bad she committed suicide would not be as enjoyable to you?
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I'm not sure I understand what you're staying so I'll clarify:
I'm going to jerk off to her video later provided I can find it.
As a memorial.
And so we're clear: I do not think she was necessarily a slut or whore. I think she simply wanted to have sex for money and have it videotaped.
Countdown to thread lockage has begun.
Pfft, it began as soon as someone made a topic with porn in the title.
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See, you're trying to use people logic. DM uses Mandelogic, which we've established has 2+2=quack. - Aerethan
Putin.....would make a Vulcan Intelligence officer cry. - Jihadin
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:39:34
Subject: Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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Tbf, though, porn isn't inherently bad. It gets bad when it's done by people not aware of possible consequences. Revenge porn etc. Regular porn is a legit business, imo. "Professional" porn is on a steady decline, but amateur porn has seen insane rises in the past few years. If you have a look at how much you gotta pay for ads on popular porn sites...it's ridiculous. And really, if a woman wants to make money by having sex with other people and getting filmed doing it, why not, it's her decision. As long as it's within legal rights of course.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:42:26
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Well, that is a great idea! Why not also picketing her funeral with some “God hate fags” and “She will burn in hell” signs too while you are at it? You know, as a memorial.
Why would I do that? I don't think she'll burn in hell for doing porn. Is a heterosexual porn so I have no reason to believe she was gay, nor so I believe god hates homosexuals.
I'll be really appreciative of her contributions to pornography for the 15-22 seconds it'll take me to finish my tribute. Err ...research. Automatically Appended Next Post: Sigvatr wrote:Tbf, though, porn isn't inherently bad. It gets bad when it's done by people not aware of possible consequences. Revenge porn etc.
Regular porn is a legit business, imo. "Professional" porn is on a steady decline, but amateur porn has seen insane rises in the past few years. If you have a look at how much you gotta pay for ads on popular porn sites...it's ridiculous. And really, if a woman wants to make money by having sex with other people and getting filmed doing it, why not, it's her decision. As long as it's within legal rights of course.
I agree with this sentiment and it's also a reason why I think prostitution should be legal. .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:45:13
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This thread has gone full victim blaming.
Never go full victim blaming.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:50:54
Subject: Re:Minnesota college student, 19, commits suicide after classmates bully her for appearing in porn flic
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Frazzled wrote:
Thats California. The legal nature of the porn industry is dubious at best. You don't want to argue that road.
That established the precedent that has been upheld in other venues since then.
Frazzled wrote:
Sorry my point stands, and nor was I arguing the legality of it.
If you weren't trying to argue the legality of it, why did you say it's OK to call her a slut and or whore because she fits the legal definition?
Frazzled wrote:Wait. she is one. She meets the complete legal definition. Truth is a defense. Sorry.
Your words, not mine.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/28 21:51:29
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purplefood wrote:This thread has gone full victim blaming.
Never go full victim blaming.
I don't think we're really blaming the victim as such here, apart from the obvious fact that she killed herself, therefore some of the blame lies on her.
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See, you're trying to use people logic. DM uses Mandelogic, which we've established has 2+2=quack. - Aerethan
Putin.....would make a Vulcan Intelligence officer cry. - Jihadin
AFAIK, there is only one world, and it is the real world. - Iron_Captain
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