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Deadly Dire Avenger





London

Hi all,

I am wondering if people know a list of the various different aspect shrines, such as for Dire Avengers, Repears ect. And if the Shrines are per Craftworld or are the Shrines universal across all Craftworlds, I understand the Outcast have a single place they travel too, but I don't know about the rest.

And also what brings an Eldar to want to take the Path of the Warrior, currently in the process of reading 'Path of Eldar' so it may explain it there later on, but it only described the end of the journey for the female when she stopped being a Dire Avenger so far for me, I am currently in the process of creating my own Craftworld paint scheme and am trying to find what colours not to change to much, obviously if there are only certain Shrines I cannot randomly make one up.

Any help would be appreciated, sorry for bothering you if it has been asked before or if my question has been poorly worded.

Regards,
Kalshandra

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Read the "path of the warrior" its a very good eldar book for a lot of this.

But off the top of mynhead
-swooping hawks
-shining spears
-fire dragons
-dark reapers
-dire avengers
-wapr spiders
-my fav. Striking scorpions
I think there are a couple more bit they escape me.

They are universal. There also may be 1-3 shrines for one world as well.

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The Aspects themselves are universal, but the shrines are per craftworld.

@Raiden, the big one you are missing is the Howling Banshees. There are others lesser known aspects, but we don't have a lot of info on them.

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I keep wanting to start eldar but the I realize half the models I want to use suck in game. And I can't paint for crap.

 Wyzilla wrote:

Because Plague Marines have the evasion abilities of a drunk elephant.


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Deadly Dire Avenger





London

Ok thank you, the Shrines was an important part as I am currently in the process of producing a Dire Avenger test model using Greyish Blue, similair to the Space Wolves style. So If they did not have seperate Shrines i'd have to scrap it

My Howling Banshee's will be similair to the Deathwatch of the Dark Angels however will be a cleaner lighter style, currently undecided on the hair on the helmet however.

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Shrines aren't universal per se, there are 'common' shrines and localised shrines. But From the top of my head.

Howling Banshees
Striking Scorpions
Fire Dragons
Warp Spiders
Swooping Hawks
Dark Reapers
Crimson Hunters
Shadow Spectres
And, Slicing Orbs of Zandros.

Colours are also variant. Most follow some version of a base scheme, but again, localised.

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 Kalshandra wrote:
Ok thank you, the Shrines was an important part as I am currently in the process of producing a Dire Avenger test model using Greyish Blue, similair to the Space Wolves style. So If they did not have seperate Shrines i'd have to scrap it

My Howling Banshee's will be similair to the Deathwatch of the Dark Angels however will be a cleaner lighter style, currently undecided on the hair on the helmet however.


Well generally the armour color for the aspects remains the same across all craftworlds and shrines, but I believe they customize parts of their gear to show their craftworld/shrine colors. Nobody will cry foul if you paint yours differently anyways
   
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They start to join the path of the warrior when they need to let out anger, hate or have something they want to protect I think. Colour doesnt really matter if you play decent people as long as its clear what things are if you want your own colour scheme.

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Y'know the Lexicanum exists for a reason.

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 Wyzilla wrote:
Y'know the Lexicanum exists for a reason.

and doesnt answer everything.

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pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
Y'know the Lexicanum exists for a reason.

and doesnt answer everything.


Except it answer's the OP's question completely. People should actually try googling before they make a thread.

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London

 Wyzilla wrote:
Y'know the Lexicanum exists for a reason.


The issue with the Lexicanum was that I already knew the name of all the aspects, and I also knew the name of a few of the Shrines.

However my question was are the Shrines universal or are they associated purely to the Craftworlds.

And this is all that the Lexicanum has on Shrines ' The Falling Moon Shrine is an Eldar Dire Avenger Aspect Shrine.[1] ' which was somewhat captain of the obvious

I think the issue is my question was poorly worded.

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 Wyzilla wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
Y'know the Lexicanum exists for a reason.

and doesnt answer everything.


Except it answer's the OP's question completely. People should actually try googling before they make a thread.

Show me the page where it answers this question. Because googling that gives good answers.

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pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
Y'know the Lexicanum exists for a reason.

and doesnt answer everything.


Except it answer's the OP's question completely. People should actually try googling before they make a thread.

Show me the page where it answers this question. Because googling that gives good answers.


By reading the fluff and realizing that since Exarchs are the head of an Aspect Shrine, they can't be universal unless they somehow split the Exarch up among the craftworlds.

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 Wyzilla wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
Y'know the Lexicanum exists for a reason.

and doesnt answer everything.


Except it answer's the OP's question completely. People should actually try googling before they make a thread.

Show me the page where it answers this question. Because googling that gives good answers.


By reading the fluff and realizing that since Exarchs are the head of an Aspect Shrine, they can't be universal unless they somehow split the Exarch up among the craftworlds.

Which doesnt answer the question. Asking the OPs question on lexicanum gets you a list of quotes or a page
on Kroot

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Exarchs are not a single person. They are a Union of several eldar in one. Each shrine follows a way. While different in waysm the main path of thrnshrines are universal.

 Wyzilla wrote:

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Deadly Dire Avenger





London

I have read the extract for the Eldar Exarchs and I think you were refering to this section:

'These names are particular to Craftworlds and the specific shrines of the War God within each Craftworld.'

Each craftworld has a Shard of the War God Khaine in it which when sacrificing a Eldar Prince to it when the call for war is made turns into the Avatar of Khaine, this bit I knew. And does indeed answer my question now I know the context from other posters, however considering I have only been at this for 4 months that to me was a reference to the Shrine which holds Khaine's Shard and does not directly nor obviously answer my question.

But yes I will make sure to do more thorough research in the future if I do have a question, but I do like to get other peoples opinions as I do not beleive that one set of opinions is correct. And Eldar are not really a topic which is often discussed.

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Asking questions like this here can lead to interesting discussions that won't happen if you just read wiki's.

I, for one, welcome questions like this!
   
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Buffalo, NY

OP, I doubt there is a comprehensive list of Shrines for each Aspect. Color-wise each Aspect uses similar colors, however, they can vary from shrine to shrine. Lexicanum lists the primary colors for each Aspect.

As to what drives an Eldar to join an Aspect, there are a number of reasons, sometimes it is frustration, sometimes they want to protect their loved ones, other times it is because they wish to experience to thrill of battle.

Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
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Also note that it is *expected* of all CW Eldar to leave their path and pick up a new one from time to time. Becoming too obsessed with a path to leave it is considered a tragedy. An Eldar may take to one of the Paths of Khaine simply because it was time for them to leave the Path of the furniture-maker.
   
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pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
Y'know the Lexicanum exists for a reason.

and doesnt answer everything.


Except it answer's the OP's question completely. People should actually try googling before they make a thread.

Show me the page where it answers this question. Because googling that gives good answers.


By reading the fluff and realizing that since Exarchs are the head of an Aspect Shrine, they can't be universal unless they somehow split the Exarch up among the craftworlds.

Which doesnt answer the question. Asking the OPs question on lexicanum gets you a list of quotes or a page
on Kroot


It states that each aspect shrine is headed by an Exarch, as Exarchs are the Shrine. It's obvious there cannot be universal Shrines, there is only one in existence as it is that specific Exarch who teaches that specific style of that specific Aspect in the Path of the Warrior. Exarchs are ancient beings, originally consumed by the hatred of Khaine, they now have dedicated themselves to warfare and teaching their respective Aspect of the Path of War, and have founded shrines to do so. The Exarchs are unique individuals, and thus it's clear that Shrines are also unique to each Craftworld.

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 Wyzilla wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
Y'know the Lexicanum exists for a reason.

and doesnt answer everything.


Except it answer's the OP's question completely. People should actually try googling before they make a thread.

Show me the page where it answers this question. Because googling that gives good answers.


By reading the fluff and realizing that since Exarchs are the head of an Aspect Shrine, they can't be universal unless they somehow split the Exarch up among the craftworlds.

Which doesnt answer the question. Asking the OPs question on lexicanum gets you a list of quotes or a page
on Kroot


It states that each aspect shrine is headed by an Exarch, as Exarchs are the Shrine. It's obvious there cannot be universal Shrines, there is only one in existence as it is that specific Exarch who teaches that specific style of that specific Aspect in the Path of the Warrior. Exarchs are ancient beings, originally consumed by the hatred of Khaine, they now have dedicated themselves to warfare and teaching their respective Aspect of the Path of War, and have founded shrines to do so. The Exarchs are unique individuals, and thus it's clear that Shrines are also unique to each Craftworld.

Yeah thats not right.

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pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
Y'know the Lexicanum exists for a reason.

and doesnt answer everything.


Except it answer's the OP's question completely. People should actually try googling before they make a thread.

Show me the page where it answers this question. Because googling that gives good answers.


By reading the fluff and realizing that since Exarchs are the head of an Aspect Shrine, they can't be universal unless they somehow split the Exarch up among the craftworlds.

Which doesnt answer the question. Asking the OPs question on lexicanum gets you a list of quotes or a page
on Kroot


It states that each aspect shrine is headed by an Exarch, as Exarchs are the Shrine. It's obvious there cannot be universal Shrines, there is only one in existence as it is that specific Exarch who teaches that specific style of that specific Aspect in the Path of the Warrior. Exarchs are ancient beings, originally consumed by the hatred of Khaine, they now have dedicated themselves to warfare and teaching their respective Aspect of the Path of War, and have founded shrines to do so. The Exarchs are unique individuals, and thus it's clear that Shrines are also unique to each Craftworld.

Yeah thats not right.


Except it is. Exarchs are unique beings. It's a fairly simple logical jump and easy to conclude that as Exarchs are unique, thus the Shrines they found also are.

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So what Wyzilla? The OP wasn't belligerent about it, he asked a background question in the forum designed explicitly for doing just that. What are you so upset about?

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 Wyzilla wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Wyzilla wrote:
Y'know the Lexicanum exists for a reason.

and doesnt answer everything.


Except it answer's the OP's question completely. People should actually try googling before they make a thread.

Show me the page where it answers this question. Because googling that gives good answers.


By reading the fluff and realizing that since Exarchs are the head of an Aspect Shrine, they can't be universal unless they somehow split the Exarch up among the craftworlds.

Which doesnt answer the question. Asking the OPs question on lexicanum gets you a list of quotes or a page
on Kroot


It states that each aspect shrine is headed by an Exarch, as Exarchs are the Shrine. It's obvious there cannot be universal Shrines, there is only one in existence as it is that specific Exarch who teaches that specific style of that specific Aspect in the Path of the Warrior. Exarchs are ancient beings, originally consumed by the hatred of Khaine, they now have dedicated themselves to warfare and teaching their respective Aspect of the Path of War, and have founded shrines to do so. The Exarchs are unique individuals, and thus it's clear that Shrines are also unique to each Craftworld.

Yeah thats not right.


Except it is. Exarchs are unique beings. It's a fairly simple logical jump and easy to conclude that as Exarchs are unique, thus the Shrines they found also are.

No the part about "hatred of khaine" and "exarchs are the shrine". Just because a priest is unique doesnt mean their church is.

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 Orblivion wrote:
So what Wyzilla? The OP wasn't belligerent about it, he asked a background question in the forum designed explicitly for doing just that. What are you so upset about?


But the background question wasn't worth making a thread over. Just a logical deduction.

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 Wyzilla wrote:
 Orblivion wrote:
So what Wyzilla? The OP wasn't belligerent about it, he asked a background question in the forum designed explicitly for doing just that. What are you so upset about?


But the background question wasn't worth making a thread over. Just a logical deduction.


But your objection wasn't worth making a post over either. It's not "just a logical deduction" if you have to go to Google or Lexicanum to find your answer. As far as 40k is concerned, Dakka can be a resource just as those two sites are. So basically, your only gripe is that he used a different resource than the ones you would have used.
   
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Eldar feel emotions a hell of a lot more than we humans and what we perceive has being somewhat comical (in the Path of the Warrior's case, being friend zoned) can be the thing that pushes and Eldar over the edge.

I believe all the aspect shrines were listed above, but some new ones include crimson hunters, shadow spectres, and the little known eagle pilots.

Remember this though...Eldar walk the Path to leave the path.

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There are supposed to be many aspects, but the main ones have been listed. THere are probably some that existed for only one shrine that we'll never hear about, but I get the impression those are rare.
   
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Bharring wrote:
There are supposed to be many aspects, but the main ones have been listed. THere are probably some that existed for only one shrine that we'll never hear about, but I get the impression those are rare.

'The Aspect of the Cowering Porpoise'

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