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Also, thinking about it, at least we're relying on Italy instead of someone like Honduras. The only team I can think of which we'd stand a better chance relying on is the Krauts.

I think I speak for every Englishman (and any English women) when I say we should be gnashing our teeth and knocking back litres of vodka, but we're so used to this every two years, that now, we just shrug our shoulders.

The US and England always seem like complete opposites.

England really should be able to do well in every contest, but somehow they don't. And the English don't seem to expect much from the team and deal with the result in the same way they always do.



The US is always the underdog, but US fans always act like there is no reason why we shouldn't go home with the trophy. Confederation Cup? Let's win it! World Cup? Let's win it? UEFA Cup? Let's win it!

It's like our team and fans don't know that we shouldn't win and somehow they just do it anyway.


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Looks like the first Referee (or Linesman) has been kicked out of the World Cup. The guy that called the two off-sides against Mexico during their first match is no more and has been replaced.

Well, looks like England are out. I'm not really surprised, due to inflated wages, big egos and poor management, English football has been really going downhill.

I find that the Netherlands are doing quite well.

Think they need to get rid of the older ones and perhaps find a new manager.

Hopefully Uruguay give Italy a good old thrashing this Tuesday.

I can see the Italians making the final.
Just this feeling I got.....

 Medium of Death wrote:
Think they need to get rid of the older ones and perhaps find a new manager.

Hopefully Uruguay give Italy a good old thrashing this Tuesday.

Agreed. It's always the same old tired faces, it is time to et some new people take the reigns.

MetalOxide wrote:Well, looks like England are out. I'm not really surprised, due to inflated wages, big egos and poor management, English football has been really going downhill.

I find that the Netherlands are doing quite well.

big egos really isn't a factor. With the exception of Wilshere and Sturridge, no one on the England squad lost possession or conceded a goal due to arrogance. Lapse in concentration, sure, but not "look at me I can take on the entire defense" or "hey guys look at this sweet volleyed backheel when I have plenty of time to just turn and pass".

Also, inflated wages has no impact on how a team plays besides perhaps leading to aforementioned arrogance.

Poor management I'd agree with you. Hodgson put too many youths in the back line (Cole and Terry would have done wonders), not enough in the midfield (Lallana and Barkley starting could have given the midfield some fresh enthusiasm and speed) and not enough variation in the strike force (Welbeck, Sturridge and Sterling are all pretty similar- based around pace and dribbling. Throwing in a target man or poacher like Crouch, Defoe or Lambert would have done well) and he should have altered the tactics to fit the team, using dribbling and pace down the wings, incisive passing from the midfield and a bit of creativity from the strikers in and around the box.

And the Netherlands are absolutely brilliant when going forward, but they have the same problem as Argentina- they don't have the most solid of defenses.

At this point Germany just deserves to lose. Utterly poor performance and Ghana clearky outplays them.

Suddenly, draw.

My poor nerves.

As a major rugby fan... this Germany/Ghana game is actually something to watch, at least parts of it... And from what I've seen (admittedly little enough) there's not been that much diving/flopping.

That certainly makes things interesting for the US tomorrow...

I actually watched a wold cup game, start to finish.

What does a tie mean for Germany? And what do they mean they cannot advance to the round of 16? Are they eliminated?

The only thing I know for sure, England must suck because my girlfriend almost cried twice. Good job England.

It just means that they won't have enough points to automatically advance. If they would have won today, and the US tied tomorrow, then they would have had enough points to make it through no matter what.

Germany didn't qualify yet, but they are not out either.

Will park this here:

 Orlanth wrote:
Will park this here:

Spoiler:

In the same spirit.

England will need to make some tough decisions before their next game: window or aisle, chicken or vegetarian...

We'll see if making fun of England getting out early will bite me in the butt in this group of death later on...

I think that since the US did better than the UK they should have to call the game soccer until the next series. Whoever does better gets to pick the terminology.

Let's do this!!!

The transitive property shows that we shall. Germany beat Portugal. Germany tied with Ghana. We beat Ghana. Therefore, US > Germany > Portugal.

Germany - Ghana also had a minimal amount of diving going on it seeemed, that was always appreciated. Both sides seemed to play to their limits.

I hope Portugal beat the USA tonight. Why? Because I had money on Ghana beating the USA, but those pesky Americans won that game and cost me money!

I want revenge! I want American blood! I want American flesh!

KHAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNN!!

SPARTAAAAAAA!!!

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I hope Portugal beat the USA tonight. Why? Because I had money on Ghana beating the USA, but those pesky Americans won that game and cost me money!

I want revenge! I want American blood! I want American flesh!

KHAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNN!!

SPARTAAAAAAA!!!

D-Day melon farming mother fether!!!




*I MAY have had a *bit* to drink at this point.

 Orlanth wrote:
Will park this here:

Spoiler:

 d-usa wrote:
Germany - Ghana also had a minimal amount of diving going on it seeemed, that was always appreciated. Both sides seemed to play to their limits.

I heavily disagree. The German defense was very lacking in the recent game with both goals being major mistakes that a tier A team just cannot afford. Their second goal was quite lucky so overall, they under-performed and should be happy with the draw.

 Sigvatr wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Germany - Ghana also had a minimal amount of diving going on it seeemed, that was always appreciated. Both sides seemed to play to their limits.

I heavily disagree. The German defense was very lacking in the recent game with both goals being major mistakes that a tier A team just cannot afford. Their second goal was quite lucky so overall, they under-performed and should be happy with the draw.

But they played hard.

I'm not saying that they didn't play stupid at times. Lahm didn't make too many mistakes IMO, but the ones he did make really bit us in the ass big time. But all together the game was physical and hard fought IMO.

Does anyone remember a couple of pages ago when I said the Germans shouldn't underestimate the remaining teams in their group?

But Rankings!

 Albatross wrote:
Does anyone remember a couple of pages ago when I said the Germans shouldn't underestimate the remaining teams in their group?

After seeing Argentina - Iran (which I thought was surely a done deal, if there ever was one), really it has proven that there are no easy matches for any of the teams. This World Cup has proven to be nothing if unpredictable!

Thought Ghana played fantastically well and thoroughly deserved that result, and could actually have easily been a win for them.

Really fun game in any case, probably most enjoyable one to watch of the WC so far.

Say what you want, but stuff like this doesn't look good:

Unfortunately, we cannot watch the game as we gotta get up early but best of luck to the US - go kick some ass guys!