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But if somebody gets elbowed with the mouth open he will "bite" even if he doesn't do it on purpose.
He's reacted badly to that high elbow as he was running in.
I think the Chiellini/Suarez incident showed both in a poor light. I doubt Suarez bit him as Chiellini seemed to be implying.
The Italian player indicated that but it didn't look like he did
Suarez deliberately ran into an Italian defender who elbowed him in the face, both should have been sent off
I genuinely don't understand these comments. Granted, I wasn't watching the game (watching the England-Costa Rica match), but they showed the replays and such after the game and it definitely looks like a bite to me. Suarez definitely jabbed his mouth at Chiellini's shoulder, who immediately went down grabbing it, and then Suarez hit the deck trying to act like he was hit in the teeth (despite replays showing that Chiellini wasn't moving). As for the "high elbow", that was high torso level, perfectly normal to see in the box when the defender's trying to keep his mark from shoving past. Happens at basically every corner kick I've ever seen, nothing even deserving a harsh word, let alone a bite. If it was something more akin to Godin swinging his forearm at Sturridge's throat in the Uruguay/England game, maybe there'd be some incentive. As is, it was practically unprovoked for me.
I've not managed to find a video with the zoomed in side-view, which is the most damning angle, but here's one:
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End of this one shows a side view, he clearly turns and darts his mouth at the guys shoulder. The fake diving bs after is icing on the cake of "You're a witch".
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
Medium of Death wrote: It certainly looks like the initial elbow hits Suarez in his neck/chin. Might be the height difference rather than malicious intent.
It's amazing the furore that has emerged over this incident when considering the general conduct of footballers.
What's amazing to me is that the general conduct of footballers is not only tolerated, but seemingly condoned. Diving is such a scummy thing to do and anyone doing it should face a ban.
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
It's amazing the furore that has emerged over this incident when considering the general conduct of footballers.
Whats pretty funny to me is comparing this sort of incident, and when you hear about it in another internationally played sport, say for example, Rugby... The two players involved usually shakes hands post-match, or grab beers together or something more amicable as they both realize that they were "in the heat of the moment"
Medium of Death wrote: If they can review this incident I don't know what stops them from reviewing dodgy disallowed goals etc.
It's literally Sepp Blatter, the head of FIFA. Basically everyone else wants it- Managers, Players, Coaches, Refs, Fans, Pundits - and I'm yet to hear a single reasonable argument as to why not.
And FIFA will definitely give him a several match ban, and I'm hoping kick him out of the tournament altogether. No excuse for it, unprovoked, he's got a history and it's basically assault.
Plus, on a personal note, the dude's a massive donkey-cave.
DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+ JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles. corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day. greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid.
Medium of Death wrote: It certainly looks like the initial elbow hits Suarez in his neck/chin. Might be the height difference rather than malicious intent.
It's amazing the furore that has emerged over this incident when considering the general conduct of footballers.
Not many other players are running about biting people . Chiellini's arm was at a normal height and Suarez ran into it no excuse to bite him, if I bit someone in the street I'd be in jail.
It's amazing the furore that has emerged over this incident when considering the general conduct of footballers.
Whats pretty funny to me is comparing this sort of incident, and when you hear about it in another internationally played sport, say for example, Rugby... The two players involved usually shakes hands post-match, or grab beers together or something more amicable as they both realize that they were "in the heat of the moment"
If it was a one off heat of the moment might be an excuse, but this is the third time he has bitten another player, that isn't heat of the moment that's something wrong in his head.
Frankly given his past conduct, i would ban him from football for life.
In virtually any other sport repeated offences of this type would result in a lifetime ban.
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
They were talking about this during the Japan/Colombia match... The commentators (presumably from the UK) were worried about him getting away with this, as apparently FIFA has never had to ban a player for the same infraction more than twice
Personally, I think that they should strongly look at a lifetime ban from ALL international level soccer.
I suggest only allowing him to play if he wears a muzzle.
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Shespits "Anything i see with YOLO has half naked eleventeen year olds Girls. And of course booze and drugs and more half naked elventeen yearolds Girls. O how i wish to YOLO again!"
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We had one in the wine store I was working at, and employees were encouraged to use it.
No.
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
Ivory coast defender sticks a leg in the way of Samaras as he goes for a shot, causing Samaras to kick the leg of the defender which alters the path of his foot enough to kick the ground. Not the most blatant foul, but it wasn't fabricated. The defender jabbing a leg in the way before the ball even came to him still stopped Samaras from shooting, thus technically denying a goalscoring opportunity by hitting the player instead of the ball. If it was outside of the box, a foul would have been given and no one would think it remotely wrong. It's just unfortunate placement for the Ivory Coast , and a decision which was a 50/50 toss between awarding a legit foul to Greece and dealing no punishment for what was a foul, but also harsh to give a penalty.
edit: pretty clear penalty to me, looking at this angle:
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I think the issue is with the referee, who is probably knackered himself and out of breath, having to make a split second decision on something that is happening a way away from him and nearly always not within a clear line of sight.
It's why so many of the players look like they have attended the Rada with the flamboyance of their reactions, as though they have received a gunshot wound as they head towards the floor. The final ten minutes of that game was a joke, every time a greek player came within 1m of an Ivory Coast player, the Greek would be rolling around on the floor and the referee must have worn out his whistle.
But, that's an issue I have with the sport in general, and the decision to be 20 years behind practically every other sport in employing video technology, rather than this particular instance. Personally, I agree the Greek player's foot snagged the Ivory Coast players leg, but he then kicked himself and reacted as though he had been pole-axed by a 300lb linebacker/prop forward - and I'm guessing that's what the referee was probably basing his judgement on.
