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Pacific wrote: I think the issue is with the referee, who is probably knackered himself and out of breath, having to make a split second decision on something that is happening a way away from him and nearly always not within a clear line of sight.
It's why so many of the players look like they have attended the Rada with the flamboyance of their reactions, as though they have received a gunshot wound as they head towards the floor. The final ten minutes of that game was a joke, every time a greek player came within 1m of an Ivory Coast player, the Greek would be rolling around on the floor and the referee must have worn out his whistle.
But, that's an issue I have with the sport in general, and the decision to be 20 years behind practically every other sport in employing video technology, rather than this particular instance. Personally, I agree the Greek player's foot snagged the Ivory Coast players leg, but he then kicked himself and reacted as though he had been pole-axed by a 300lb linebacker/prop forward - and I'm guessing that's what the referee was probably basing his judgement on.
As I said I didn't watch the game, but from the video of Samaras hitting the dirt he really isn't making it dramatic. He's a 6' 4" guy who's tripped whilst sprinting, hits the deck, immediately rolls up to his knees and calls for a (legit) penalty. He wasn't brushed by a player and rolled around on the ground clutching his leg, he had a perfectly reasonable response.
Look at 0:24 here:
or here: He's been clattered into whilst running, there was absolutely no way he could do anything there to stay up. Perfectly legit decision and Samaras, for me, wasn't milking it in the slightest.
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That was legit in my eyes. How the presenter can say "it doesn't look like he touches him" while it's showing the behind look with a straight face is fething unbelievable.
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MrDwhitey wrote: That was legit in my eyes. How the presenter can say "it doesn't look like he touches him" while it's showing the behind look with a straight face is fething unbelievable.
yeah, from the first angle I can see why he'd mostly see Samaras kicking his heel, but the second angle shows that it's blatantly a foul.
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I've got a tenner on the Germans winning this by two. If the Amerikaners win, I will exact my revenge upon them by setting fire to my Flames of War Shermans
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MrDwhitey wrote: That was legit in my eyes. How the presenter can say "it doesn't look like he touches him" while it's showing the behind look with a straight face is fething unbelievable.
It's world cup commentary - it's not supposed to make sense
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2-2 tie! (Because it just makes too much sense for both sides) Just glad this game is at 12est and not 6. Don't think I could handle waiting all day for it. USA USA USA!!!
-- Luis Suarez has been banned for nine international matches and suspended for four months from any football activity by FIFA.
The Liverpool striker is also set to miss a large chunk of the English Premier season and is "banned from any football related activity."
The ban is the most severe ever handed out at a World Cup but the striker does have the right to appeal.
FIFA said Wednesday that it has begun proceedings after the striker was accused of biting another player during his team's World Cup victory over Italy a day earlier
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FIFA also confirmed that Suarez is "prohibited from entering the confines of any stadium" during his ban and must pay a fine of 100,000 Swiss Francs -- $111,000.
Congrats to the national soccer team of USA for making it past the much dreaded “group of death.”
Best of luck to you guys <3
amanita wrote: So dare I ask what happens if he farts? Could it blow the seals on the lower portion of his armor? Or is a space marine's system immune to such mundane fluctuations of bodily conduct?
Moktor wrote: No one should be complaining about this codex. It gave regular Eldar a much needed buff by allowing us to drop Fire Dragons and D-Scythe Wraithguard wherever we want, without scatter. Without this, I almost lost a game once. It was scary. I almost took to buying fixed dice to ensure it never happened again.
Congrats on the US getting through! Wonderful team effort and discipline, they completely deserve it. I love that the team seem so hungry for the win.
And, I think they have a chance against Belgium, who haven't really come up to expectation so far. Korea rattled them this evening, and with a team that's got some better finishers, and prepared to have a similar work rate, I wouldn't be surprised at all if we had an 'upset' in the final 16.
-- Luis Suarez has been banned for nine international matches and suspended for four months from any football activity by FIFA.
The Liverpool striker is also set to miss a large chunk of the English Premier season and is "banned from any football related activity."
The ban is the most severe ever handed out at a World Cup but the striker does have the right to appeal.
FIFA said Wednesday that it has begun proceedings after the striker was accused of biting another player during his team's World Cup victory over Italy a day earlier
...
FIFA also confirmed that Suarez is "prohibited from entering the confines of any stadium" during his ban and must pay a fine of 100,000 Swiss Francs -- $111,000.
He should have been banned for at least 2 full years, if not banned for life. What the hell ever happened to the age old notion of '3 strikes and you're out?'
I mean what gives here, how many times does he have to bite opponents until enough is enough?
Only in football are you actively rewarded for appalling sportsmanship.
d-usa wrote: FIFA said Wednesday that it has begun proceedings after the striker was accused of biting another player during his team's World Cup victory over Italy a day earlier
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FIFA also confirmed that Suarez is "prohibited from entering the confines of any stadium" during his ban and must pay a fine of 100,000 Swiss Francs -- $111,000.
He should have been banned for at least 2 full years, if not banned for life. What the hell ever happened to the age old notion of '3 strikes and you're out?'
I mean what gives here, how many times does he have to bite opponents until enough is enough?
Only in football are you actively rewarded for appalling sportsmanship.
I agree with you on the harsher banning thing, but players aren't rewarded for appalling sportsmanship. Just like every other sport, if you're caught, you get punished and if you aren't, you're not. The only difference is that unless it's an act of violence (like spitting, hitting, racial abuse etc.) they don't use camera replays.
DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+ JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles. corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day. greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid.
When did the English, the Italians, the Portuguese, and the Spanish become so bad at soccer? I thought this was a game you guys took seriously, unlike us.
Seaward wrote: When did the English, the Italians, the Portuguese, and the Spanish become so bad at soccer? I thought this was a game you guys took seriously, unlike us.
I'd argue that you're only taking it seriously because you now have someone to lord over with it
but seriously, Portugal's never been great (take away Ronaldo and they're a very average team), Spain god knows what happened to, it's basically the same squad as the world cup winning one last time round, Italy are just getting a tad old and need a bit of young talent in the midfield and defense, and England were never gonna do amazing this world cup due to the massive amount of inexperience in the squad (though the way they played they did deserve to get into the next round, two 2-1 losses in games where England created the most chances).
DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+ JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles. corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day. greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid.
d-usa wrote: FIFA said Wednesday that it has begun proceedings after the striker was accused of biting another player during his team's World Cup victory over Italy a day earlier
...
FIFA also confirmed that Suarez is "prohibited from entering the confines of any stadium" during his ban and must pay a fine of 100,000 Swiss Francs -- $111,000.
He should have been banned for at least 2 full years, if not banned for life. What the hell ever happened to the age old notion of '3 strikes and you're out?'
I mean what gives here, how many times does he have to bite opponents until enough is enough?
Only in football are you actively rewarded for appalling sportsmanship.
I agree with you on the harsher banning thing, but players aren't rewarded for appalling sportsmanship. Just like every other sport, if you're caught, you get punished and if you aren't, you're not. The only difference is that unless it's an act of violence (like spitting, hitting, racial abuse etc.) they don't use camera replays.
I'm sorry but all the diving the players do whenever they so much as get slightly bumped by an opposing player is just plain ludicrous. Purposely diving and over embellishing the way footballers do is pretty scummy.
Pretty much every other team sport you get a penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct, or else the official just warns your to stop acting like a gakker.
Remember Rivaldo? Yes it was wrong of the Turkish player to kick the ball at him, (as Turkey rightly believed they should have has a goal kick instead of a Brazilian corner kick), the ball hits Rivaldo in the knees, he waits a second, and then grabs his face & falls to the ground and begins writhing in mock agony in order to get the Turkish player red carded.
Disgusting way to play!
As much as I really try to enjoy watching football come the World Cup or Euro Cup, I simply can't help by fall over laughing at the silliness of grown men acting like a bunch of whiny crybabies.
No other sport tolerates that kind of behavior from players, and FIFA needs to start clamping down big time on the embellishing crap as it does ruin the sport.
As for Italy being knocked out, we got royally screwed over big time by the officiating!
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: Spare a thought for D-USA when Germany plays America. Will he change sides at half time
I'd hate to have divided loyalties
I hope you are happy!!!
Automatically Appended Next Post: This looks like two teams hungry for the win, doesn't look like any hand-shake agreements for a draw here!
You look like Dave - the security guard at my local supermarket. Are you Dave?
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
d-usa wrote: FIFA said Wednesday that it has begun proceedings after the striker was accused of biting another player during his team's World Cup victory over Italy a day earlier
...
FIFA also confirmed that Suarez is "prohibited from entering the confines of any stadium" during his ban and must pay a fine of 100,000 Swiss Francs -- $111,000.
He should have been banned for at least 2 full years, if not banned for life. What the hell ever happened to the age old notion of '3 strikes and you're out?'
I mean what gives here, how many times does he have to bite opponents until enough is enough?
Only in football are you actively rewarded for appalling sportsmanship.
I agree with you on the harsher banning thing, but players aren't rewarded for appalling sportsmanship. Just like every other sport, if you're caught, you get punished and if you aren't, you're not. The only difference is that unless it's an act of violence (like spitting, hitting, racial abuse etc.) they don't use camera replays.
I'm sorry but all the diving the players do whenever they so much as get slightly bumped by an opposing player is just plain ludicrous. Purposely diving and over embellishing the way footballers do is pretty scummy.
Pretty much every other team sport you get a penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct, or else the official just warns your to stop acting like a gakker.
Remember Rivaldo? Yes it was wrong of the Turkish player to kick the ball at him, (as Turkey rightly believed they should have has a goal kick instead of a Brazilian corner kick), the ball hits Rivaldo in the knees, he waits a second, and then grabs his face & falls to the ground and begins writhing in mock agony in order to get the Turkish player red carded.
Disgusting way to play!
As much as I really try to enjoy watching football come the World Cup or Euro Cup, I simply can't help by fall over laughing at the silliness of grown men acting like a bunch of whiny crybabies.
No other sport tolerates that kind of behavior from players, and FIFA needs to start clamping down big time on the embellishing crap as it does ruin the sport.
As for Italy being knocked out, we got royally screwed over big time by the officiating!
So, like I said, they're not getting rewarded, they either get away with conning the ref or they don't. It's not "oh, you dived, have a free kick", it's "oh, to me it looks like you were fouled, have a free kick."
All FIFA need to do is use cameras and it'll be like every other sport. That's literally the only difference.
DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+ JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles. corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day. greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid.