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I saw 1 list that seemed impressive.

It looked like

Sorc+spell familiar 75 (summon)
Cultists 50
Cultist 50
Oblit+MoN 76
Oblit+MoN 76
Oblit+MoN 76

Combined arms detachment the above 4 more times total 2k pts.

What can you think of that can abuse cad, battle forged, etc. and make CSM over powered?

Give me a reason to stay in the fight for csm!

What's abusive about it? Those cultist troops die easy and run easy. Sorcerers will peril themselves to death. Nurgle obliterators are great but hardly in the same league as what eldar, daemons or AM bring to the table.

 Vomikron Noxis wrote:
What's abusive about it? Those cultist troops die easy and run easy. Sorcerers will peril themselves to death. Nurgle obliterators are great but hardly in the same league as what eldar, daemons or AM bring to the table.

I concur. Abusive due to the oblits? The cultists are just too fragile to be effective. I think at even 500 Pts, this army wouldn't be too hard to beat.

I concur, those cultists are going to drop like flies to anything, and sorcerers alongside them.

MoN Oblits are tough, but when they're pretty much the only thing in the army with any punch they're gonna be 1st priority.

Your not going to Peril yourself to death with a Chaos Sorcerer.

LOL that was the list I came up with.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/598645.page

It wasn't meant to be taken seriously! I was just parodying the recent changes that effectively boiled CSMs down to our last three "useful" units.

Kyutaru wrote:
LOL that was the list I came up with.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/598645.page

It wasn't meant to be taken seriously! I was just parodying the recent changes that effectively boiled CSMs down to our last three "useful" units.

Sorry I forgot who you was so I did not know who to give credit to.

I think they all missed the point that this is 2k pts.

There are 5 sorc, 100 cultists, 15 oblitz. The Sorc will summon more troops.

I saw a player using the same concept but limited to old rules of 1 org chart and ally. He had a sorc, 2 squads of cultist, 9 oblitz and allied BL for 1 sorc, 1 cultist, and 3 more oblitz and it wrecked faces!

If you dont think Kyutaru's list is not cheese then please post what you think is csm cheese.

4x [1 Basic Sorceror, 2x 20 Cultists, 2x Heldrakes]

4 Sorcerors, 80 Cultist Meatshields with Objective Secured and 8 Heldrakes.

My Chaos Daemon Army of Slaanesh Laughs.

Herald of Slaanesh, Lesser Reward LVL 2
Herald of Slaanesh, Lesser Reward LVL 2
Troops
Daemonettes
Daemonettes
H. Support
3 Soul Grinders of Slaanesh

Taken twice

Daemon Factory vs Fifteen Plasma Cannons.

This should be interesting.

Hollismason wrote:
Your not going to Peril yourself to death with a Chaos Sorcerer.

Hoping to summon as the OP suggested, you will.

 Kriswall wrote:
4x [1 Basic Sorceror, 2x 20 Cultists, 2x Heldrakes]

4 Sorcerors, 80 Cultist Meatshields with Objective Secured and 8 Heldrakes.

Your list is 2320 pts. That is 320 pts more than kyutaru. Not a fair comparison. Also 8 large flyers such as drake may over crowd the boad and restrict movement and placement. In addition, drakes no longer have hull mounted weapons meaning los restrictionss and the bale flamer which ignores cover now can only reduce cover save by 2. Vecter strikes also weakened.

 Filch wrote:

 Kriswall wrote:
4x [1 Basic Sorceror, 2x 20 Cultists, 2x Heldrakes]

4 Sorcerors, 80 Cultist Meatshields with Objective Secured and 8 Heldrakes.

Your list is 2320 pts. That is 320 pts more than kyutaru. Not a fair comparison. Also 8 large flyers such as drake may over crowd the boad and restrict movement and placement. In addition, drakes no longer have hull mounted weapons meaning los restrictionss and the bale flamer which ignores cover now can only reduce cover save by 2. Vecter strikes also weakened.

Sorry, what do you mean about the bale flamer only reduing cover saves by 2? I haven't heard anything about it.

I think invisible Nurgle spawn are an excellent unit.

 Big Blind Bill wrote:

 Filch wrote:

 Kriswall wrote:
4x [1 Basic Sorceror, 2x 20 Cultists, 2x Heldrakes]

4 Sorcerors, 80 Cultist Meatshields with Objective Secured and 8 Heldrakes.

Your list is 2320 pts. That is 320 pts more than kyutaru. Not a fair comparison. Also 8 large flyers such as drake may over crowd the boad and restrict movement and placement. In addition, drakes no longer have hull mounted weapons meaning los restrictionss and the bale flamer which ignores cover now can only reduce cover save by 2. Vecter strikes also weakened.

Sorry, what do you mean about the bale flamer only reduing cover saves by 2? I haven't heard anything about it.

Ignores Cover ignores cover.