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I would have bought this...

I have bought codices electronically so far and I could have done with a beautiful paper version but:

- this is not a collection, the orks, Dark angels, and so many more means that I can't even sit down and look at this as a collection.
- this is already heavily FAQ/errata'd, so grabbing an electronic version will provide more accurate information
- some of these books are probably going to become obsolete by the time I actually read them.

I have gladly bought box sets of comics collector because 30 years later they are actually making my kids' day opening them and reading them... this ? in 2 years time it's just pictures in a book and nostalgia.

I do hope these are A5 sized. That means that there is a chance somewhere down the road that they may release the rules separately and that's probably the only way I'll pick up the 7th edition rules.

Good god they Don't know what they are doing. With the HH collection it made sense (same basic army) but this?! It's useless unless you own the armies in question

 Bronzefists42 wrote:
Good god they Don't know what they are doing. With the HH collection it made sense (same basic army) but this?! It's useless unless you own the armies in question

If it's cheaper it will be split meaning cheaper books?

It's all my fault. If I were to get back into 40k, I'd be one of the people buying that box.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Maybe they saw the big box FW put out for their Horus Heresy stuff and thought "We can do that!", of course failing to realise that the HH books are successful because they're actually, y'know, good.

Do you have a link for this product? I'm looking but can't even find a picture of it.

 Billagio wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Did people expect all of the books? It's the "primary" army books in hardcover.

Don't know why anyone would buy it, but whatever.

Orks and DE arnt primary?

And Necrons...

 Billagio wrote:
No Orks, DE, GK, BA, SW in there

Or AS, Inquisition or Legion of the Damned.

I was one of those people who bought every codex (and every army book.... ) until these hardcovers killed that for me. I liked having all the books, but I'm a fan, not an idiot (or that well off). If GW would sell codexes at a reasonable (read that as 'around the same price as every other fething company in the world') I would still do it. I like looking at the fluff, and seeing what other people's armies can do, and tracking the changes over time.

10 Codexes for $375 is actually approaching what I would consider a reasonable price (I would aim for $30 per book, myself), but it's a LOT of money to spend all at once. Also, a nice kick in the pants for everyone who actually spent money on their army book at $50 (Hey, look, we can afford to sell these for less! You are stupid!).

I just wish that GW would realize that:

1) the revenue from selling a few items at a high margin could also be achieved by selling MORE STUFF at a lower margin

2) even if you make money on a high margin item, if you drive enough people out of your shops with high prices, your fan base will evaporate if you lose critical mass.

 Squidbot wrote:
Via Grot Orderly

I've heard via the rumour mill that it runs to £220. Considering the Codices would stack up to £275 I am adding some salt.


http://grotorderly.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/white-dwarf-19-wycieki-leaks.html

Price 900 Dollars

Is it possible they make changes to the Codexes to bring them in line with 7th and streamline them with upcoming 7th ed books?

rollawaythestone wrote:
Is it possible they make changes to the Codexes to bring them in line with 7th and streamline them with upcoming 7th ed books?

I wouldn't count on it, that would require the use of logic on GW's part. This looks like a simple repackaging job, even possibly going with smaller books (A5 - is that going to be readable without reflowing the books?)

And they included Imperial Knights instead of Necrons?

Da Butcha wrote:
I was one of those people who bought every codex (and every army book.... ) until these hardcovers killed that for me. I liked having all the books, but I'm a fan, not an idiot (or that well off). If GW would sell codexes at a reasonable (read that as 'around the same price as every other fething company in the world') I would still do it. I like looking at the fluff, and seeing what other people's armies can do, and tracking the changes over time.

10 Codexes for $375 is actually approaching what I would consider a reasonable price (I would aim for $30 per book, myself), but it's a LOT of money to spend all at once. Also, a nice kick in the pants for everyone who actually spent money on their army book at $50 (Hey, look, we can afford to sell these for less! You are stupid!).

I just wish that GW would realize that:

1) the revenue from selling a few items at a high margin could also be achieved by selling MORE STUFF at a lower margin

2) even if you make money on a high margin item, if you drive enough people out of your shops with high prices, your fan base will evaporate if you lose critical mass.

+1
Before GW codex prices became totally outrageous, I too would buy many of the army books for WHFB. The four I needed for my armies, of course, but a few others as well, either ones that my opponents played or that interested me. With this hardcover nonsense and prices at $60 US, that's gone by the wayside. Just what I need, and no more. In fact, I'm looking at alternate rules sets both for 40K and WHFB as the cost of staying current has tripped my pain threshold.

No one from GW put a gun to my head and forced me to buy into Necrons two years ago. GW can set their prices at whatever they like, and if people buy, that was the customer's choice. Doesn't mean I'll continue to spend money on GW products though.

 Stormonu wrote:
(A5 - is that going to be readable without reflowing the books?)

It's worked fine for the least three rulebooks.

And they included Imperial Knights instead of Necrons?

It's just a collection of all of the 6th Ed codexes... So yes, it includes Knights instead of Necrons.

 insaniak wrote:
It's worked fine for the least three rulebooks.

For some of us. I find reading them extremely difficult.

I don't know what you're all complaining about:
- It's a discount on buying all the books separarately
- They look to be rebound in a smaller format, making them possibly more desirable for gaming
- As above, includes a mini version of the rules
- Potentially these may have Errata included in the text... though I wouldn't necessarily hold out for that.

It follows good business practice of attempting to get money up front for purchases (time value of money and all that), gives a discount and is a new product.

Unfortunately I can see it running at $800 or so In Australia, which means I won't be buying. That doesn't stop it frombeing a good product - just too expensive for me.

If they've halfed the size of the books (A4->A5) that's great, I'd love an A5 rulebook for IG. But it doesn't look like there's been a suitable reduction in price?

I'd want to be paying no more than 60% of the big book price for a mini book, before any bundle deals.

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Squidbot wrote:
Via Grot Orderly

I've heard via the rumour mill that it runs to £220. Considering the Codices would stack up to £275 I am adding some salt.


http://grotorderly.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/white-dwarf-19-wycieki-leaks.html

Price 900 Dollars

$375, but thanks for playing.

Actually, I really like the idea. If they are full codices, $400AUD for 9 codices + rule book is something I'd normally be down with (compared to the ~$900 to buy them separately.

I used to collect codices when they were reasonably priced, when they got stupid with colour pages and hard backs I stopped because it just got silly.

I'm not saying I WILL buy them, I already own a couple of those codices anyway and I dislike 7th edition rules so I'm not overly enthused... but it's definitely something that interests me.

For a club or gaming store, it's a good deal.If the only way to get these is in this box, it marks them as different, and not normal for anyone to own.
If one goes missing from the box, it's easy to see who walked off with it.

Apart from the cost....

When this gets announced, and if they've been confirmed as updated, I'll pitch in to get my armies' books.

$37.50 a book, most likely not fixed and just copies of the original copies.

I would consider it if they posted on the site that they are updated versions

Yeah, you would think they would mention on the site if these had the 7th edition errata corrections, so the fact that they don't makes it seem pretty likely they are not indeed updated, which is really sad.

Ordinarily I'd love something like this for a hobby I'm invested in. As expected, GW does it in a half-assed manner, probably with the intention of re-releasing a full edition later. Then changing the format no doubt next edition so you can't slot new books into the case.

So, $400 in Australia. I'm surprised. And if I had the spare cash, would actually be tempted, since I only have a couple of the 6th edition books (bought off Ebay) due to the exorbitant hardcover pricing down here.

I'm surprised that they didn't delay this a few weeks so they could include the Ork codex or at least leave a space for it, seems a bit short sighted.

They are not even discounting the Dark Vengeance boxed set with the wrong rulebook so dicscount may be a bit hoepful...........

Is it just that I'm desensitised to the prices or does $400 Aus for that collection seem VERY reasonable?

As for readability of the rulebook in A5 size, I bought the munitorum box (sucker for bling) and the A5 rulebook in that is quite readable with my 51 year old eyes. So long as I'm wearing my reading glasses of course...

The stupid thing about this is that GW can produce the codexes in a smaller, more manageable size, and at a more manageable price. So why the hell don't they sell them individually?

At around the £20 mark, I'd be happy to buy new codexes; at £30 I've just kept the last ones and 'filled in the gaps' with the information I need. The only one I've bought is the SM one, as it's the template for DA and presumably BA as well, it's worth more to me and saves me buying those two.

The upshot is, over the course of the last couple of years, and what we can assume the rest of this year, GW would have sold me IG, DA, BA and maybe SW and GK, so £100 of books. Selling them at £30, they sell me £0 worth of product. So, GW, see the maths here?

No, because they assume everyone buys literally every product they release regardless of price, or even what army or system it belongs to. If it's new and GW you have to have it and you'll buy it.

The only thing they understand is "If they buy it at £20 they'll buy it at £30." And £40. And £50. Etc.

 Sidstyler wrote:
No, because they assume everyone buys literally every product they release regardless of price, or even what army or system it belongs to. If it's new and GW you have to have it and you'll buy it.

The only thing they understand is "If they buy it at £20 they'll buy it at £30." And £40. And £50. Etc.

Truer words have never been spoken.