Daemon release in August, maybe CSM too

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**l0k1**

Found this on BoLS from Larry Vela a little bit ago.

6/13/14

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/06/40-rumors-guess-whats-coming-after-orks.html?m=1

There's a bunch of activity out past Orks this year for Warhammer 40,000 fanatics. Here's the latest whispers in the trees:

First of all, this is about Warhammer 40,000.

So yes, we all know - directly after Orks is Bretonnia, which has indeed been patiently waiting since the Jurassic period.

But we've heard that there is an untraditional Chaos release window on the far side of that during the summer. We've been told to look for:

- Chaos Daemons Release Window
- 3-4 Week release period
- Daemon themed Apoc Warzone Book
- New CD Dataslates
- New CD Formations

See anything missing in there? Strangely no mention of a codex, so it may be a "get out a bunch of models" (I'm betting the plastic Major Daemons) and support books only, like we saw with the Helbrute/ CSM release window.

7/8/14

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/07/gw-rumors-summer-schedule-fasten-your.html?m=1

Guess what's missing from the next 2 month GW schedule that's doing the rounds?

The latest scuttlebutt schedule looks like this taking us into September:

July
Stormclaw Box Set (Orks vs Space Wolves)
Terrain week (remember those new Realm of Battle urban tiles)
Space Wolves (with codex)

August
Chaos (4 week release window, taking up all month)
-Nurgle big kit
-Plastic Plague marines
-More stuff, with no specific word on 40k vs WFb, or even CSM vs Daemons...

September
All rumors fall into the black hole of September. GW has something "big and secret" in there for all their fans.

See what's not listed in there? Here's a hint - it involves the Lady of the Lake...

Please apply the appropriate amount of salt.

**Zweischneid**

So what happend to the last BoLs rumour?

Launch Window - @September
Rules Summary: Updated Mini-rulebook contains FAQs, minor tweaks and clarifications, and much of Stronghold Assault rolled into a new shiny package.
Miniatures included: @70
Armies:
Blood Angels (plastic quick assembly)
- Assault Marine Squad
- Tactical Marine Squad
- Death Company Squad
- Captain (kitted out for assault)
- Chaplain
- Sanguinary Priest (limited edition, similar to the Dark Vengeance mini was)
Orks (plastic quick assembly)
- ‘Ardboys (full mob)
- Nobs (small squad)
- Warboss
- Big Mek
- Ork themed fortification
This was described as simply an updated Warhammer 40,000 Starter Set and specifically “NOT 7th Edition.”

**lord_blackfang**

l0k1 wrote:
Found this on BoLS from Larry Vela

Please apply the appropriate amount of salt.

So all of the salt?

**Chad Warden**

Well we need new Greaters ASAP

but didnt they already show the old ones in the rulebook?

**deleted20250424**

lord_blackfang wrote:
l0k1 wrote:
Found this on BoLS from Larry Vela

Please apply the appropriate amount of salt.

So all of the salt?

Well, Larry and BoLS are in Texas. Supposedly everything is bigger there.

So yes, ALL the salt.

**Paradigm**

I can see them doing this as the natural follow-up to demonology. Make demons available to everyone, then release new demon models a few months later (after, of course, everyone has bought the rubbish old ones... specifically the Bloodthirster, the rest look OK, but I'm sure most would prefer plastic)

**pretre**

Oblig:

Larry Vela aka Big Red - Total rumors: (111 TRUE) / (183 FALSE) / (11 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

**Azreal13**

On reading the thread title and opening it...

On seeing it came from Larry Vela...

**The Shadow**

Even so, a Daemon wave makes sense. Good way for GW to capitalise on the summoning spells in 7th and sell lots of Daemons.

**timetowaste85**

So Larry has about a 40% rate of being correct? In all honesty, with how hush-hush GW is and their ability to change stuff whenever they want...I don't think 40% is that terrible. If only our government got stuff right 40% of the time!!

**pretre**

timetowaste85 wrote:
So Larry has about a 40% rate of being correct? In all honesty, with how hush-hush GW is and their ability to change stuff whenever they want...I don't think 40% is that terrible. If only our government got stuff right 40% of the time!!

Considering you could probably guess higher than that...

**Acardia**

Welp. As a fantasy player I wouldn't mind a few new GD models. (Fateweaver and KOS) I really like my converted GUO and LoC. the current thirster is solid.

That being said plastic fiends and beasts would be welcome.

Some new rules or adjustments could be useful as well to improve the DoC book.

**Azreal13**

timetowaste85 wrote:
So Larry has about a 40% rate of being correct? In all honesty, with how hush-hush GW is and their ability to change stuff whenever they want...I don't think 40% is that terrible. If only our government got stuff right 40% of the time!!

More crucially, and Pretre can confirm or deny I'm sure, his hit rate is based on old rumours, and anything from the last year or so has only served to reduce his accuracy, suggesting he has perhaps lost a source, but not stopped posting his own speculation as rumours.

Which, in turn, is only my speculation of course.

**pretre**

Yep, for instance, he recently posted that wholly crap 40k = Fantasy rumor set.

**l0k1**

Larry Vela's track record aside, I can believe these rumors. With 7th edition making daemons really good, and with the success of creature caster, it makes sense that GW would want to keep people buying their daemon line. Not to mention there are a number of daemon models that are in dire need of new scuplts.

Though these rumors do come from a someone with a less than stellar record, at least it's some news.

**Azreal13**

Plastic Greater Daemons have been on their way since 5th to the best of my knowledge, they're up there with the Plastic THawk, Sisters and Warhound.

Now, I know the original post doesn't specific plastic GDs, but it is difficult not to make that leap, especially when a surprising number of the other daemon kits are already plastic.

Fiends, Beasts, Furies, Hounds...

Starting to run out of other options, excepting characters, and I doubt any but Hounds would sell in enough numbers to justify the investment to convert, so unless they introduce some more new units as dataslates, without GDs, there's not a lot to release.

Don't get me wrong, as a daemons man, I'd love to see it, but I'm going to hold on to my skepticism for a while longer.

**pretre**

azreal13 wrote:
Plastic Greater Daemons have been on their way since 5th to the best of my knowledge, they're up there with the Plastic THawk, Sisters and Warhound.

You are correct.

**Hulksmash**

To be fair we've actually had talk from people in the know who have seen what appeared to be new GD's all the way back to the end of 5th I believe, early 6th. Given how long I know they have sat on plastic releases before waiting for a good window I wouldn't be surprised if they were done.

That being said IF a daemon supplement is coming out I could see them being released. Without such a tied into release I can't see them getting put out there. And 7th is fertile ground for the new plastic GD's if ever there was any. Especially the GUO and LoC.

**pretre**

Yeah, I believe Harry and Hastings both chimed in on Plastic GD.

**Murrdox**

lord_blackfang wrote:
l0k1 wrote:
Found this on BoLS from Larry Vela

Please apply the appropriate amount of salt.

So all of the salt?

Not ALL the salt!! Surely you can't be serious!!

**pretre**

Okay, I lol'd.

**CalgarsPimpHand**

azreal13 wrote:
timetowaste85 wrote:
So Larry has about a 40% rate of being correct? In all honesty, with how hush-hush GW is and their ability to change stuff whenever they want...I don't think 40% is that terrible. If only our government got stuff right 40% of the time!!

More crucially, and Pretre can confirm or deny I'm sure, his hit rate is based on old rumours, and anything from the last year or so has only served to reduce his accuracy, suggesting he has perhaps lost a source, but not stopped posting his own speculation as rumours.

Which, in turn, is only my speculation of course.

Add him to the tracker, Pretre!

**Azreal13**

What the rumourmonger rumourtracker?

**Ignatius-Grulgor**

Acardia wrote:
Welp. As a fantasy player I wouldn't mind a few new GD models. (Fateweaver and KOS) I really like my converted GUO and LoC. the current thirster is solid.

That being said plastic fiends and beasts would be welcome.

Some new rules or adjustments could be useful as well to improve the DoC book.

Not sure if you're being serious, the thirster is possibly tied for worst of the four with the KOS, if not the outright winner, the lord of change is just about the only one that stands up without conversion, GUO is passable with a little work.

The problem I'm having is that it does make sense, which is why it's probably a wild guess.

**timetowaste85**

And, see, I will disagree with you there: I think the keeper of secrets is awesome. The only issue I have with it is the height.

**bubber**

IMO the original KoS looked the best. But it is now tiny in comparison to the current one:

(note: not mine - I chopped mine up & stuck the upper half onto the body of the original dragon ogre thus loosing 2 of GWs nicest figures

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The image comes from: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?363613-The-2013-Keeper-of-Secrets posted by Odin)

I backed the Creature Caster KS but I will probably use the ones I'm getting for the character daemons from the FW books, so might be tempted to get all four (here's hoping that GW does one of those 1-click collections to save me 1 minute of my life!!).

**undertow**

Paradigm wrote:
I can see them doing this as the natural follow-up to demonology. Make demons available to everyone, then release new demon models a few months later (after, of course, everyone has bought the rubbish old ones... specifically the Bloodthirster, the rest look OK, but I'm sure most would prefer plastic)

I'm actually OK with the current Bloodthirster. It's the other three (especially the GUO and LoC) that I can't stand.

I'd like to run a more Nurgle-oriented list, but I won't put models on the table unless I like the way they look.

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Ignatius-Grulgor wrote:
Acardia wrote:
Welp. As a fantasy player I wouldn't mind a few new GD models. (Fateweaver and KOS) I really like my converted GUO and LoC. the current thirster is solid.

That being said plastic fiends and beasts would be welcome.

Some new rules or adjustments could be useful as well to improve the DoC book.

Not sure if you're being serious, the thirster is possibly tied for worst of the four with the KOS, if not the outright winner, the lord of change is just about the only one that stands up without conversion, GUO is passable with a little work.

The problem I'm having is that it does make sense, which is why it's probably a wild guess.

I almost like the current Bloodthirster, I don't hate the current KoS, but I actively revile the other two. Which makes me sad because I generally play Tzeentch lists and I hate the current LoC.

**streetsamurai**

It's about time that they release new greater daemons. The current ones are putrid

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If they also relase updated slaanesh fiends, i'll have to sell a few organs.

**Azreal13**

The current BT looks like a rabid poodle. The current GUO is so small it looks like something a proper GUO would pass after breakfast, the KoS is just wrong for me on many levels, it should be the classic four armed boobie Minotaur of old. I'll give the LoC a pass, but could do better.

New GD sculpts would have to be awesome to persuade to me to buy and use them over my current alternate models though, proper lust-inducing, and not just the KoS!

**Kirasu**

I really hope this is true.. since yeah the current GD's are some of the worst models in the range.. i also need more BA !