Zombicide Strategy, and General Discussion

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**Nostromodamus**

-iPaint- wrote:
Good god the comment section for this KS is atrocious, and it's only day 2. If it isn't people complaining about free stretch goals, it's people complaining about wanting more add-ons....It's baffling. Usually by this point there'd be more $10 survivors, so I for one am happy that CMoN and GG are willing to provide us freebies for the first dozen or so stretches.

~iPaint

Don't forget the "+1" crowd, or the incessant chirping of "[random celebrity] should be a survivor!".

Worst comments section I've ever seen.

**grefven**

nkelsch wrote:
It does seem like this is the only game which seems to be getting 'stronger' with each release opposed to a lot of the other companies which are getting weaker and having worse problems with quality and consistency as their house of cards fall apart.

The only thing which I see making people sad are that if they join in season 3, they have like 30 some survivors and zombivors which they can never get due to exclusives. They are not needed, but some of the terribly fun and familiar ones are basically unobtainable.

So it is the walking the line between exclusives and late-game completionists.

I have played this game a bunch, it is totes fun.

While they might not be able to use the actual figures, the ID cards are free to download from their site. So it's just a matter of switching one ID card for another and they can fully experience Zombicide as those that wanted to spend money on the figures.

**RiTides**

DaveC wrote:
I'd say with 12 survivors in the boxed game they can't include 12 Zombivors in it as well for cost/space reasons but I wouldn't be surprised to see a boxed set of them at some point whether free or paid for.

The Angry Neighbours and Lucius all get Zombivors so they haven't dropped that idea.

DaveC, do the zombivors have an in-game use yet?

It bothered me that they were making that many special models, many exclusives, that didn't actually function in-game previously... or at least, didn't really function well or weren't necessary.

Do they do more now?

**Nostromodamus**

When your character dies, it comes back next turn as a Zombivor.

Basically "second chance" mode.

**DaveC**

Yep RiTides check out page 22 of the PO rulebook

http://zombicide.com/dl/po_rulebook_web_20131024.pdf

I don't really use them they are a bit broken with 5 wounds IMO but it's a good way of keeping someone new in the game if their survivor "dies" early. They aren't necessary and the game plays perfectly fine without them it's just another option but I like having the mini though

and I'd pay for the set of 12 Rue Morgue ones if needs be - even if I don't use them much.

Here's Season 1 and TCM rulebooks as well if anyone wants to look at rules first - the core rules are the same and won't chnage in season 3.

http://zombicide.com/dl/zombicide_rulebook.pdf
http://zombicide.com/dl/tcm_rulebook_web.pdf

**adamsouza**

The Zombivors lack the extra activation at Yellow that everyone else has. It is actually quite noticable in the late game.

Honestly though the 5 wounds doesn't seem to make a difference. In my experience you are either okay, or something went badly and your swarmed. When that happens having 1 spare wound or 4 extra doesn't make much of a difference.

**RiTides**

Thanks for that, DaveC and adamsouza! I don't own the game but have played a few times with friends and it is a lot of fun, we just never used the Zombivors so I was wondering about that

**porkuslime**

so. the zombivor models are still "heroes" and are controlled by the players?

I thought they went to the bad and started munching the heroes.

(obviously I have not played the game yet)..

And.. is there ANY reason to have 30+ survivor models other than the near infinite variety of using only 4 or 5 in a game? (like... can you bring in another character if ya die?)

-P

**Siygess**

Hulksmash wrote:
This is the season I jump in. I regret not doing season 1 or 2. 1 it was that or Sedition Wars...Wrong choice. And season 2 hit during a low hobby fund time. This time however I'm in.

Heh, you too, huh? Sometimes when I look at my SW box I wonder if I backed the wrong horse. . and the only thing that stopped me picking up Zombicide at retail is large number of exclusive survivors I have missed out on.

..but sod it, better late than never, right?

**DaveC**

Correct Zombivors are still player controlled.

Season 3 is 1 - 12 players and the new teams aspect seems to be 3 survivors per team so that's 36 survivors potentially in play! if each player can control 3 survivors although it's more likely that 3 players pool their survivors into a team but yeah more survivors just means more choice.

RM and AN so far has 16 survivors then add Lucius, Cat and Audrey for 19. We know there are 3 guest boxes that's another 6 plus not Raj and not Ron Burgundy so that's 27 survivors we know of this KS before they reveal the surprise ones.

**Aeneades**

I want to know why CMON value brown dice at $2 more then yellow dice! I'm all about the yellow dice...

**grefven**

A 12-player game, I actually don't even want to know how long that would take to play. Either each team last about 1 or 2 turns, and the poor sods that get taken out in turn 1 will have to wait for the rest to of the game to finish, or there has to be some incredible game mechanics in play here, otherwise I don't see a 12-player game work that good. It would for sure be interesting to see a review of it, though.

**adamsouza**

$611,552 pledged of $100,000 goal

Dice Bag Unlocked

I can't get too excited about it. It's been said that it is BIG enough to hold 9 dice.

9, not even the 18 you'll get between the box set and free dice

**endtransmission**

adamsouza wrote:
$611,552 pledged of $100,000 goal

Dice Bag Unlocked

I can't get too excited about it. It's been said that it is BIG enough to hold 9 dice.
9, not even the 18 you'll get between the box set and free dice

According to poster Thaigo (who seems to be posting from CMoN) , "You can fit up to 7 dice sets inside the bag."

So that is 42 dice, not 18

**DaveC**

Well that's the full TBBT crew in then (we know from the preview that Raj is in too) Guest boxes are more expensive this time.

Stretch Goals - the $640k for House is already unlocked.

Add ons

Old add ons

Spoiler:

**endtransmission**

Given that we have Amy, we really need Penny and Bernadette to call the gang complete. Stu would be nice too

**whalemusic360**

You're missing the pimp weapons at 670k. Wonder why the price difference on eh guest boxes? Still at $10 a pop, but the $15 was much more of a draw.

**DaveC**

whalemusic360 wrote:
You're missing the pimp weapons at 670k. Wonder why the price difference on eh guest boxes? Still at $10 a pop, but the $15 was much more of a draw.

Sorted now I was wondering why it went from 640k to 700k the Pimp weapon Cards never showed in the email I got - odd

**ClockworkChaos**

I feel like I am over-excited for the "Dr. House" model. As a side note, could someone explain to me what you get in the artist packs and why are they so desirable? Like I like the undercover cop but is there anything specifically special about these packs? What is in them? Just the survivors and zombivors? Any extra art in there?

**whalemusic360**

It's just two extra dudes that were designed by someone outside the normal design team.

**Schlyne**

Considering almost all of my season 2 stuff was lost in the great apartment fire of 2 weeks ago, I am disappointed that there are no options to grab stuff from previous seasons.

However, this should make things a heck of a lot smoother when it comes to shipping and sending out everyone's various add-on options later on, as we bang out stretch goals.

**cincydooley**

I'm still hoping the next "crew" they're going to do is the Channel 4 Action News team.

Sadly, I know they're only doing Ron in this campaign. Bummer. Could really have dug me some Champ Kind.

**adamsouza**

endtransmission wrote:

According to poster Thaigo (who seems to be posting from CMoN) , "You can fit up to 7 dice sets inside the bag." So that is 42 dice, not 18

That's good news. I'm glad to have been wrong about it.

**spiralingcadaver**

Does anyone else feel like they visually missed the mark and a lot of the concept?

DaveC wrote:

**DaveC**

spiralingcadaver wrote:
Does anyone else feel like they visually missed the mark and a lot of the concept?

I guess in order to claim parody they kind of have to miss the mark a bit. I think it's the Zombivor artwork that's really off looks like a different character but that's been true of a few of the zombivor art pieces they don't seem to get the same level of attention.

**cincydooley**

I dunno.. I feel like if i showed that to anyone that watches BBT they'd know immediately who it is.

**highlord tamburlaine**

Did I read correctly that the dashboard box includes dashboards for all the previous promos?

Does that mean I don't need to bother printing stuff out for all those hard to find figures, and can instantly proxy them with basically any figure already in the box?

If so, that's not a bad deal for everyone.

**DaveC**

So the Season 1 total means free Barricades - give us 2 free to get us to buy more

(no add on price yet but at $15 MSRP probably $10)

then a new VIP - only 2 this time - pity as a zombie cop is more useful/looks better en masse than 3 Elvis impersonators

highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Did I read correctly that the dashboard box includes dashboards for all the previous promos?

Does that mean I don't need to bother printing stuff out for all those hard to find figures, and can instantly proxy them with basically any figure already in the box?

If so, that's not a bad deal for everyone.

Yep all season 1,2 and TCM Survivor cards and Kyoko are included no need to print them - buy a box of WGF survivors and proxy away.

**adamsouza**

spiralingcadaver wrote:
Does anyone else feel like they visually missed the mark and a lot of the concept?

In season 2 they had problems with 2 of the Survivors being to close to the source material they were parodying, and had to change their bio's and minis.

This way there can be no condusion based on the bio that they are the same.

**highlord tamburlaine**

Are all these VIP zombies going in that VIP box, or will they be in all the Kickstarter cardboard swag boxes we usually get our extra zombies in?