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Hmm, well I suppose I'll be waiting for retail then. Seems pretty steep for PVC models IMO after adding in shipping.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Seems they forgot a stretch goal.



Nice to see we will be getting that variation after all.

The right arm on those alt guards looks wrong to me and now that I've noticed it I can't unsee it.

Overall, the game looks appealing to me. I don't feel compelled to jump in right now but I'm definitely going to seriously consider pledging when it's closer to the end and I can see what the final stretch goal tally will be. I don't mind having duplicate minis in the game. It's a board game first so I never expected it to look like a box of Conan themed Darklands quality minis. I'm more interested in seeing enough minis in the box to make all the different scenarios fun than having a bunch unique sculpts. I can always proxy minis I already have for better/different visuals and let some of the boardgame minis do double duty as painting practice for my kids who are just starting to show interest in gaming.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Hmm, well I suppose I'll be waiting for retail then. Seems pretty steep for PVC models IMO after adding in shipping.

It's already almost at a $1/model

Once the last stretch goal is hit at $250K, the King pledge will be sitting at 126 minis for $135. PVC or not, thats still pretty dang good, and it should only get better as they reveal more stretch goals.

Jebus10000 wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Hmm, well I suppose I'll be waiting for retail then. Seems pretty steep for PVC models IMO after adding in shipping.

It's already almost at a $1/model

Once the last stretch goal is hit at $250K, the King pledge will be sitting at 126 minis for $135. PVC or not, thats still pretty dang good, and it should only get better as they reveal more stretch goals.

Of course, don't forget to add shipping to that. It's currently at $150 for those minis, if the unlocked stretch goals haven't already driven the total up. I'm planning on waiting for a good sale at retail(maybe around Black Friday), and picking it up if I'm still interested without worrying about unknown shipping charges. Doesn't Sedition Wars(another PVC board game) routinely get discounted to $25?

 Sinful Hero wrote:

Jebus10000 wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Hmm, well I suppose I'll be waiting for retail then. Seems pretty steep for PVC models IMO after adding in shipping.

It's already almost at a $1/model

Once the last stretch goal is hit at $250K, the King pledge will be sitting at 126 minis for $135. PVC or not, thats still pretty dang good, and it should only get better as they reveal more stretch goals.

Of course, don't forget to add shipping to that. It's currently at $150 for those minis, if the unlocked stretch goals haven't already driven the total up. I'm planning on waiting for a good sale at retail(maybe around Black Friday), and picking it up if I'm still interested without worrying about unknown shipping charges. Doesn't Sedition Wars(another PVC board game) routinely get discounted to $25?

True, but I think that had more to do with the issues Sedition Wars had, more so than just because it was PVC minis.(Also you can totally buy Sedition Wars for $29 TODAY from MiniatureMarket. Crazy cheap.)

A lot of this stuff looks to be 'Kickstarter Exclusive" - that might limit the 'wait for retail' approach.

Though admittedly, if I had waited for retail of Sedition Wars I'd have been WAY happier...

I think I paid under 20 for my cousin's Sedition Wars.

Do you think they'll keep the same quantities of figures for retail? I don't think we've seen a game of this type with that many figures retail at 100.

Stuff like Descent, Myth, and the like have about half as many.

It'll be interesting to see what retail looks like vs the final tally at the end of the kickstarter.

After having heard mention of 3d terrain markers and objectives, I'm pretty stoked about this one.

You can never have enough 3d board swag!

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I think I paid under 20 for my cousin's Sedition Wars.

Do you think they'll keep the same quantities of figures for retail? I don't think we've seen a game of this type with that many figures retail at 100.

Stuff like Descent, Myth, and the like have about half as many.

It'll be interesting to see what retail looks like vs the final tally at the end of the kickstarter.

After having heard mention of 3d terrain markers and objectives, I'm pretty stoked about this one.

You can never have enough 3d board swag!

In the KS comments, Jamie said:


"Concerning the retail box: The retail box is equivalent to the barbarian pledge without the stretch goals. Unlocked stretch goals that are not KS exclusives will be released at a later date in seperate retail boxes."

The cheapest price I found for Sedition Wars base set is under $20 plus shipping at White Dragon Enterprises. 50 mini's and 50 sf bases. Buy multiples!

OTOH, I haven't found any discounts as good as SW. I think it's an exception. I *have* seen holiday sales for Robotech RPG and Mars Attacks at 50% off. Arcadia Quest and other games are 40% to 30% off. Heck, Imperial Assault's 30% off!

As for Conan, the plastic is high quality like the Others. You can, of course, find not-Conan barbarian metals easily, although for other Conan mythos characters other than Red Sonja, I don't know.

If you're a Robert E. Howard Conan fan, sure, back it. If you're looking for value, it's about $1 per miniature. If you just want the base set, wait for until the end of next year.

+22 mini's at 250K!

Jebus10000 wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I think I paid under 20 for my cousin's Sedition Wars.

Do you think they'll keep the same quantities of figures for retail? I don't think we've seen a game of this type with that many figures retail at 100.

Stuff like Descent, Myth, and the like have about half as many.

It'll be interesting to see what retail looks like vs the final tally at the end of the kickstarter.

After having heard mention of 3d terrain markers and objectives, I'm pretty stoked about this one.

You can never have enough 3d board swag!

In the KS comments, Jamie said:


"Concerning the retail box: The retail box is equivalent to the barbarian pledge without the stretch goals. Unlocked stretch goals that are not KS exclusives will be released at a later date in seperate retail boxes."

Yep, in that case I'll be passing. There's a few models in that big pile I'd quite like(I think, you have to squint pretty hard to see most of it since they only included bigger images for a selection of the models), but most of it is stuff I just have no use for particularly with all the repeats(repeats are fine for boardgames or mass battle wargames, but they look like arse for warband to small-army level skirmish which is what I prefer to play), and the exclusives don't grab me enough to justify the cost. Better to get it discounted at retail, or hope someone splits their box and I can pick up the stuff I want off ebay.

Bugger, forgot this was starting today and missed the EB..

Really stoked about this, minis so far look great but the biggest thing for me is the license, and they've obviously got some really talented designers involved (not least Adrian Smith).

This is on the verge of prompting a new avatar pic!

 Sinful Hero wrote:

Jebus10000 wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Hmm, well I suppose I'll be waiting for retail then. Seems pretty steep for PVC models IMO after adding in shipping.

It's already almost at a $1/model

Once the last stretch goal is hit at $250K, the King pledge will be sitting at 126 minis for $135. PVC or not, thats still pretty dang good, and it should only get better as they reveal more stretch goals.

Of course, don't forget to add shipping to that. It's currently at $150 for those minis, if the unlocked stretch goals haven't already driven the total up. I'm planning on waiting for a good sale at retail(maybe around Black Friday), and picking it up if I'm still interested without worrying about unknown shipping charges. Doesn't Sedition Wars(another PVC board game) routinely get discounted to $25?

Sucker! If you waited another month or two you could have bought it from a charity shop for $15.

Think you either want this game or not, and if you're really thinking about waiting for a year to go on sale then that's probably a 'no'

 Alpharius wrote:
A lot of this stuff looks to be 'Kickstarter Exclusive" - that might limit the 'wait for retail' approach.

Though admittedly, if I had waited for retail of Sedition Wars I'd have been WAY happier...

Seems like Sedition Wars is a legendary tale of caution.

 Piston Honda wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
A lot of this stuff looks to be 'Kickstarter Exclusive" - that might limit the 'wait for retail' approach.

Though admittedly, if I had waited for retail of Sedition Wars I'd have been WAY happier...

Seems like Sedition Wars is a legendary tale of cation.

It was pretty much the first game like it on KS using restic, so there's obviously been a lot of learning and growth since then.

I realize it's fun to pile on the hate to Sedition Wars, but I think it's important to keep that fact in mind. Everything that's been put out in the two years since SHOULD be better.

 Pacific wrote:
Bugger, forgot this was starting today and missed the EB..

Really stoked about this, minis so far look great but the biggest thing for me is the license, and they've obviously got some really talented designers involved (not least Adrian Smith).

This is on the verge of prompting a new avatar pic!

 Sinful Hero wrote:

Jebus10000 wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Hmm, well I suppose I'll be waiting for retail then. Seems pretty steep for PVC models IMO after adding in shipping.

It's already almost at a $1/model

Once the last stretch goal is hit at $250K, the King pledge will be sitting at 126 minis for $135. PVC or not, thats still pretty dang good, and it should only get better as they reveal more stretch goals.

Of course, don't forget to add shipping to that. It's currently at $150 for those minis, if the unlocked stretch goals haven't already driven the total up. I'm planning on waiting for a good sale at retail(maybe around Black Friday), and picking it up if I'm still interested without worrying about unknown shipping charges. Doesn't Sedition Wars(another PVC board game) routinely get discounted to $25?

Sucker! If you waited another month or two you could have bought it from a charity shop for $15.

Think you either want this game or not, and if you're really thinking about waiting for a year to go on sale then that's probably a 'no'

Yeah, about the only thing I'm really interested in are the Hyenas, and that's quite a steep price to pay for something I'll maybe use once in a RPG session that I'll probably never have. :(

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:

Do you think they'll keep the same quantities of figures for retail? I don't think we've seen a game of this type with that many figures retail at 100.

Zombicide: Prison Outbreak - 90 miniatures, 22 unique sculpts.

Price on Amazon: $59.99 NIB Prime Shipping.

fwiw, Reaper has metal hyenas for $8 for a two-pack:
https://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/hyena/latest/03277

Found a D&D mini prepaint for $2:
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p143453.html

Paizo wants $5 for this thing:
http://paizo.com/products/btpy7snq?DD-Miniatures-Harbinger-Hyena

250K SG unlocked... APE APE APE.

So... I think I like what they've shown of the rules. Like how the amount of actions the characters can take is tied to their stamina, which is in turn tied to their health. I need to watch the full gameplay still, but so far I like how the game seems to play.

 cincydooley wrote:
So... I think I like what they've shown of the rules. Like how the amount of actions the characters can take is tied to their stamina, which is in turn tied to their health. I need to watch the full gameplay still, but so far I like how the game seems to play.

I watched the Tric Trac game and that was very informative. Looks like a fun game. And yes, my will was weak, I pledged just now...

As a game it looks ok, but the miniatures are kind of unimpressive considering the talent of the sculptors they hired.
Zelata looks more like a statue than a human.


Skuthus looks more like Dhalsim than a necromancer


Lots of the poses are just weak



And some of the stuff looks realistic while other stuff the scale is way off like the axes these pirates are dual wielding which are much bigger than what the skeletons are two handing..:


I got an EB slot so I'm sure it will be a good value overall, but the sculptors attached to the game had my hopes a lot higher than what many of the sculpts live up to.

Not the direction I had hoped they'd go but I'm in to keep tabs on it.

 cincydooley wrote:

 Piston Honda wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
A lot of this stuff looks to be 'Kickstarter Exclusive" - that might limit the 'wait for retail' approach.

Though admittedly, if I had waited for retail of Sedition Wars I'd have been WAY happier...

Seems like Sedition Wars is a legendary tale of cation.

It was pretty much the first game like it on KS using restic, so there's obviously been a lot of learning and growth since then.

I realize it's fun to pile on the hate to Sedition Wars, but I think it's important to keep that fact in mind. Everything that's been put out in the two years since SHOULD be better.

Until I see pvc minis that is easy to clean up I will always look down on it.

Sedition wars was not so much an issue of detail quality, they were nice, not great but solid. It was jut painful to clean them up, same with mantic's PVC or Soda Pop's.

I would rather spend mot of my time painting and not scraping and slicing. At a million dollar kickstarter and Having put it roughly 500 dollars on that kickstarter, taking jabs at it is not fun, but a constant sad reminder of how terrible PVC if you are buying them for the hobby aspect.

For board pieces sure, but many people did not buy into that kicktarter for a "board game"

Buy a box of DUST minis if you want to check it out because I believed they will be produced in the same factory. Grab some of the german apes, they have both furry and mechanical bits.

fattdex wrote:
Buy a box of DUST minis if you want to check it out because I believed they will be produced in the same factory. Grab some of the german apes, they have both furry and mechanical bits.

Which is, coincidentally, also the factory I believe all the CMoN minis are being produced at now.

A few more stretch goals were announced a few hours ago




So far we're at 25 free alt-sculpt minions, 1 new hero, 1 new villain and whatever Man-Ape is; plus some extra dice. Not too shabby for day 1.

They have also confirmed in one of the comments that the stretch goals all come with additional scenarios, but have yet to say what that actually means.

Another comment from the creators has gone into a bit of detail about the exclusivity of the sculpts too. The KS exclusive minion sculpts will be just that; however, the alt-sculpts that we're seeing in the goals will be available to buy after the campaign in box sets.

Just hit 325K! +33 mini's and six dice!

Latest update says the alternate sculpts will also have their own tiles -- in other words, they're not just alternate art!

"Cheap cultural reference aside I should mention that a lot of the alternate sculpts come with alternate tiles that allow them to represent special units instead of just standard minions. These guys for example are the pict "warriors" that some of you may of seen/heard of. Their special ability is block, a skill that stops heros in the same zone as them from moving. A usefull trick if you need to buy yourself some time."

Regarding the plastic: "@Pierre: Someone has already beaten me to this but just to confirm; we will be using high quality PVC with results similar to Dust: Tactics, The Others & Journey: Wrath of Demons."

Well I'm glad that the cat is finally out of the bag .

Hope you guys like it, we have plenty more to come before this is all over

I'll still be here during the campaign so if you guys have any questions then don't hesitate to ask!

Regarding the "all SG come with their own scenario" comment, I'm assuming this only applies to Heroes, Villains, Monsters and Maps, right? Or do we really get scenarios for alt-sculpt goons, dice and chests?

I'm torn on this one. I like the stylistic direction, but the execution leaves some models a bit lacking in detail or overall aesthetic. I love Conan so I guess I'll wait and see.

I realise that this isn't a very "Dakka-esque" statement to make, but the likelihood of me painting all of the mooks is low (particularly as stretch goals pile up!), so I'm less concerned about them being pretty. Frankly some of the base Zombicide zombies were pretty lacking - but you were only looking at them en masse, so it didn't really matter.

I am happy with a greater proportion of the heroes & particularly the big chunky monsters! The biggest flaw so far is the lack of consistency between humans - it doesn't come across as "exaggerated fantasy", more "completely different artists".

Normally I'd be with you there Bioptic. I like painting up boardgames but it's not necessary, and there is a lot of add ons. I just think that with all the incredible artistic talent behind this project I wish there was a little more, as you point out, consistency.