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They should have learned from cmon. CMON got a lot of flack about loss of detail for zombicide seasons 2 and 3, rum & bones, and b-sieged. This was all due to:
This is why CMON went with a more muted color scheme for the heroes in black plague and blood rage, which worked very well. I think the mini looks great, but wish they had used a ore tan or grey color so the details would pop without painting.
Looking back thru the updates I see the ugly cheap looking dice. They even further clutter an already busy die with additional little symbols, for the color blind, because one guy in the comments wouldn't shut up about it. I'm afflicted with an aversion to ugly, gak looking dice, where's the special dice made just for me :-)
ArtIsGreat wrote: Looking back thru the updates I see the ugly cheap looking dice. They even further clutter an already busy die with additional little symbols, for the color blind, because one guy in the comments wouldn't shut up about it. I'm afflicted with an aversion to ugly, gak looking dice, where's the special dice made just for me :-)
They didn't make braille dice to accomodate blind gamers either. So inconsiderate...
Igor Sandère : "Folks, I had those minis in my very hand, months ago, brought by Fred Henry at home when we had a Conan event with fellow "prototype team" members (we are the teams in charge of creating additionals scenarios to be available on the website during launch for the add-ons and SGs to whom prototype of the games had been sent). I can assure you they are comparable to Blood Rage minis (wich I just received back then). That afternoon I primed a pict in white and whashed it in sepia, then dry brushed it with white/bone color and the result was stunning (I'll post the link to the picture tomorrow, not at home atm)"
And the pic of the pict...
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From the comments, their mistake was that they wanted to show off the paint job, so they went with a poor unpainted picture.
With plastic being translucent, particularly with lighter colors, it's difficult to take an accurate picture. (Sometimes, you can' t get a good picture with unpainted metal!) While CMON seems to have the skill, even Reaper Miniatures had this issue when they first released Bones.
My vote is a primer then a wash, but then you have the complaints by customers who want an unpainted picture.
So, some rather good news to share concerning production today. Everything is proceeding as planned (for once!) and we have plenty of photos to share!
Once again, please bear in mind that the models are not the easiest thing to photograph in this setting and that they are of the highest quality as promised!
This is the miniature box for the Barbarian Pledge level:
And some of the contents:
Here you can see the dice and dice bag. Note that these are not the production dice but the samples from before, hence the Orange is slightly off.
So photos are all very well and good but where does this leave us? Well, I’m happy to report that we are on track for the October delivery date!
We’ll be receiving more and more production samples in the coming weeks and we’ll be sure to share them with you as we receive them!
Asmodee’s upcoming release of Monolith Edition’s Conan board game into the game trade, scheduled for the fourth quarter, is going to carry an aggressive $100+ retail price.
Based on the works of Robert Howard and designed by Frederic Henry (Timeline, The Adventurers), Conan is an overlord-style game of adventure for two to five players (see “‘Conan’ Board Game’”) packed with plastic miniatures. Monolith funded the game through a $2.5 million Kickstarter campaign. Asmodee will be handling the distribution of the game into the trade following the fulfillment to Kickstarter backers, starting in the fourth quarter of this year.
The updated component list for the game includes 74 plastic miniatures, 4 hero sheets, a plastic “Book of Skelos” used by the Overlord player to manage the game’s enemies, 2 double-sided boards, 45 tiles, 9 custom dice, 75 plastic gems, 55 cards, 148 tokens, and 2 rulebooks. The game is for 2 to 5 players, ages 14 and up, and each scenario plays in about an hour and a half. MSRP is $119.99.
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For $119 retail I'm glad I went all in on this Kickstarter not only was the king pledge cheaper then the retail amount but you litterally only get 1/3 of the minis that retail does. However the community rep said that monolith only makes $3 per Kickstarter box sold so that makes some sense regarding the retail pricing.
I'm a little disappointed most of the add-ons are not going to be sold at retail. I didn't pick up any guest boxes or expansions and a few add ons such as the dragon and black ones. And the Facebook commentor said the guest boxes nor the dragon or black ones or many of the scenery and door packs won't be sold at retail. Kinda bummer considering they weren't marked Kickstarter exclusive and even had the retail price they planned on selling them for. I really wanted a set of black ones.
gungo wrote: I'm a little disappointed most of the add-ons are not going to be sold at retail.
IIRC, We were told that the expansions might not make retail. Unfortunately, this isn't the first KS whose non-exclusive expansions won't make retail.
One definite gap with KS is that, while it will make the funds necessary to produce the molds and backer copies, it doesn't otherwise help a creator make it to retail. That is, a KS will help with the fixed costs (eg. molds) of a project, but not the marginal costs (eg. retail copies) of it. The traditional distributor-retailer model requires a deep discount, and many KS companies cannot afford this (otherwise, they wouldn't need to use KS).
One random thought is that, since there are effectively only a few OLGS compared to the hundreds (?) of LGS, KS companies that cannot provide product at the terms set by the traditional distributor-retailer model could bypass distributors and sell directly through online retailers.
The only update that said the nonexclusives might not make retail was in regards to bases and extra sets like scenery. The community rep on The Kickstarter pretty much said the nonexclusives would make retail. However you are correct Kickstarters doesn't garauntee any models at all even at what you purchased. It still doesn't change the fact I still thought it would be detailed and would like to pick up a set of black ones if givenThe chance. There is hope monolith created a few extra sets to sell post Kickstarter or I can find a set of black ones on eBay at scalper prices but I'm not terribly hopeful on a Kickstarter with only 16,000 backers and most of them likely didn't order the black ones add on.
Not the last time something said on KS disappeared into the ether. ): Why companies make expansions they know are unlikely to sell is beyond me, although FFP and SPM have shown you can sell mini-expansions direct to customers on through an online store front, while still having retail sales. What Cthulhu Wars did was have a second KS for its second round of expansions -- seems not impossible enough. Ares Games showed that you could run a KS project for an expansion of a game alongside the base game. CMON, of course, releases expansions in the guise of "standalone" sets. Maybe Monolith could have saved the expansions for another KS and disguised them as a Conan standalone boardgame as well. :/
ced1106 wrote: CMON, of course, releases expansions in the guise of "standalone" sets.
Maybe Monolith could have saved the expansions for another KS and disguised them as a Conan standalone boardgame as well. :/
Except, CMoN's Zombicide Season 3 "Rue Morgue" is the best edition, by far. Whether you look at it as an expansion or a standalone, it's a beautiful refinement of the Zombicide game.
For a KS like this, better they get their money upfront while people are excited, rather than a fraction a year later, after the bloom is off the rose
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Whether you look at it as an expansion or a standalone, it's a beautiful refinement of the Zombicide game.
