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 Frazzled wrote:
I find the lack of discussion on the appropriate firearms bears should employ to be....disturbing.

It's because we all already know bears should be dual wielding these.

Bromsy wins it in one!

Forgive the image post, but this seemed to quite succintly sum up this particular instance of internet 2-minute hate (taken from here);



It's almost like the internet is a machine designed to generate outrage from morally un-serious people. Almost.

"America" doesn't love that guy, some idiots do. She also isn't even close to the most hated person in the US while wildly overstating her impact on the locals.

Having seen the pic I think the problem is the gak eating grin she is wearing; it rubs people the wrong way I bet. It seems odd to be so proud of executing something, but on the other hand if you kill a lion with a bow that is pretty bad ass.

 Ahtman wrote:
"America" doesn't love that guy, some idiots do. She also isn't even close to the most hated person in the US while wildly overstating her impact on the locals.

Having seen the pic I think the problem is the gak eating grin she is wearing; it rubs people the wrong way I bet. It seems odd to be so proud of executing something, but on the other hand if you kill a lion with a bow that is pretty bad ass.

She's a cheerleader, they only have two expressions - smiling and crying.

I almost made a very, very tasteless joke about injuries.

 Buzzsaw wrote:
It's almost like the internet is a machine designed to generate outrage from morally un-serious people. Almost.

 Ahtman wrote:
Having seen the pic I think the problem is the gak eating grin she is wearing; it rubs people the wrong way I bet. It seems odd to be so proud of executing something, but on the other hand if you kill a lion with a bow that is pretty bad ass.

Almost...

 Buzzsaw wrote:
Forgive the image post, but this seemed to quite succintly sum up this particular instance of internet 2-minute hate (taken from here);



It's almost like the internet is a machine designed to generate outrage from morally un-serious people. Almost.

People on an Internet forum are exaggerating and posting a picture from a different part of the internet where people are exaggerating to complain about people on a different part of the Internet who are exaggerating about a story about a girl which is probably exaggerating in the first place.

We need to go deeper...

 d-usa wrote:
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People on an Internet forum are exaggerating and posting a picture from a different part of the internet where people are exaggerating to complain about people on a different part of the Internet who are exaggerating about a story about a girl which is probably exaggerating in the first place.

We need to go deeper...

It's worth pointing out that this girl is getting real harassment and threats (along with people that have similar names, natch).

What happens in the DakkaDakka off-topic forums is, obviously, of no importance to anyone. When someone with 37 thousand followers tweets "I wish someone would hunt that texas cheerleader bitch animal murderer and hang her head in a lions den. But what do I really think…— ", that's problematic.

When Facebook is deleting your photos and bowing to the outrage of the frothing mob, that's starting to get into some actually scary territory.

 Buzzsaw wrote:
Forgive the image post, but this seemed to quite succintly sum up this particular instance of internet 2-minute hate (taken from here);



It's almost like the internet is a machine designed to generate outrage from morally un-serious people. Almost.

Well social media is a double edge sword.

People often forget and do not see the blurred reality.

Fasiciniating really. A group of people hunt to stay alive, kill animals. Boom the bad guys.

Hunting is good and bad. Good in that it supplies for the short term to a starving village and allows human beings to live.
And bad in that animal life is taken.

But the thing is do like human life more or animal life more? Either way your being an evil idiot if you side with humans all the way and down with animals. Or animals all the way and down with humanity.

It is good to have a balance in this case. Usually I side with protecting endangered predators, but then... I remember that this is the internet so the information might be misinformation meant to cause me outrage, and I take it with a grain of salt. After reading more about it and I seeing both sides of the argument I weighed the evidence and find it neither morally objectionable or problematic.

She's in the moral gray. Now if she was drowning puppies. I would have a problem. But she's not she's feeding starving children.

People always think in black and white, and not gray and gray.

People just want someone to hate.

I just see this reaction as human nature taking its course and finding it quite hilarious.

How a kid from down the street, was stabbed and raped, and no one blinks an eye. But an animal OH MY GOODNESS! WHAT AN ANIMAL! WHO KILLS ANIMALS FOR ENJOYMENT?

And then sometimes I look at my fellow humans and are sickened by their misbehavior. Treating animals more than human and putting them up above us is nothing good. Seeing them as equals as animals is fine. But do not think them morally in the right. If I put you in a cage with a gorilla it would rip your arms off and make you its party time helper. Giraffe, It would kill you without banking an eye. You anger a horse and it will kill you faster than the best cut throats.

They are animals. They are dangerous. Just like us. We are animals.

I get both sides of the argument its just step back. And look at the whole mess. Reevaluate your priorities. There are more important things than a 19 year old who kills animals for a program meant to keep the populations at a certain degree.


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 Buzzsaw wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
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People on an Internet forum are exaggerating and posting a picture from a different part of the internet where people are exaggerating to complain about people on a different part of the Internet who are exaggerating about a story about a girl which is probably exaggerating in the first place.

We need to go deeper...

It's worth pointing out that this girl is getting real harassment and threats (along with people that have similar names, natch).

What happens in the DakkaDakka off-topic forums is, obviously, of no importance to anyone. When someone with 37 thousand followers tweets "I wish someone would hunt that texas cheerleader bitch animal murderer and hang her head in a lions den. But what do I really think…— ", that's problematic.

When Facebook is deleting your photos and bowing to the outrage of the frothing mob, that's starting to get into some actually scary territory.

I hate mob rule. Because that works so well :/

People will continue to be stupid it seems.

I wonder if she'd be getting so much hate if she was less attractive.

Hate starts when feeling's are offended

 cincydooley wrote:
I wonder if she'd be getting so much hate if she was less attractive.

I don't really think she's all that attractive.

 Redbeard wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

I'm just trying to understand how people can get so outraged over kills made by hunting while not having that same outrage for all the kills made by slaughterhouses and kill-farms.

As you noted earlier, it's about how many of the species there are. Cows and chickens are numerous, killing them doesn't contribute to the demise of a species. If our teenage huntress were out there killing Wildebeest and Zebra, I wouldn't bat an eyelid.

So then it is lion and rhino's fault they are hunted, instead of being pack into a pen and slaughtered. They should taste better.

But, you still miss the part killing them doesn't contribute to the endangered species demise instead it is keeping them healthy. It just doesn't make your "I am better person for not kill animals myself" look good if you use the facts.

 Ahtman wrote:
"America" doesn't love that guy, some idiots do. She also isn't even close to the most hated person in the US while wildly overstating her impact on the locals.

Having seen the pic I think the problem is the gak eating grin she is wearing; it rubs people the wrong way I bet. It seems odd to be so proud of executing something, but on the other hand if you kill a lion with a bow that is pretty bad ass.

If I killed a lion with a bow you wouldn't be able to see the rest of my face for the huge gak eating grin I'd be wearing. I look happy enough when I catch a fish. I do always say sorry to the fish when I kill it though. I'm all heart

Bullockist wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
"America" doesn't love that guy, some idiots do. She also isn't even close to the most hated person in the US while wildly overstating her impact on the locals.

Having seen the pic I think the problem is the gak eating grin she is wearing; it rubs people the wrong way I bet. It seems odd to be so proud of executing something, but on the other hand if you kill a lion with a bow that is pretty bad ass.

If I killed a lion with a bow you wouldn't be able to see the rest of my face for the huge gak eating grin I'd be wearing. I look happy enough when I catch a fish. I do always say sorry to the fish when I kill it though. I'm all heart

Funny you say that you being all heart. I hate yelling "I'm sorry" over a distance so....

Though I want to see the face when you write that check to purchase that ticket to opt the lion out for conservation

Though I would be highly irate if they made the kill easy for you by keeping it cage

Lion cage fighting is all the rage amongst conservative hunters. I'd happily pay 100,000 of PETAs money to participate.

 Jihadin wrote:
Though I would be highly irate if they made the kill easy for you by keeping it cage

Video Related: start at around 37:00 and watch until about 39:00

 dementedwombat wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Though I would be highly irate if they made the kill easy for you by keeping it cage

Video Related: start at around 37:00 and watch until about 39:00

Once in the corn field they couldn't do it Though that lion made an excellent watch "cat"

Recommend the movie to any who hasn't seen it

I love that movie. I saw it when I was much younger and decided that my life goal was to end up like those two old guys by the time I'm 60.

 dementedwombat wrote:
I love that movie. I saw it when I was much younger and decided that my life goal was to end up like those two old guys by the time I'm 60.

Till you order online the biplane eh

 Jihadin wrote:

 dementedwombat wrote:
I love that movie. I saw it when I was much younger and decided that my life goal was to end up like those two old guys by the time I'm 60.

Till you order online the biplane eh

I plan on getting the pilot's license before i try flying through the barn.

Let me know when you order. We do not need the license. I just scream instructions at you from the manual

Now though. The two lions from Darkness and Light starring Val Kilmer. The one's in the Smithsonian. Now those are true human hunters

 Jihadin wrote:
Let me know when you order. We do not need the license. I just scream instructions at you from the manual

Now though. The two lions from Darkness and Light starring Val Kilmer. The one's in the Smithsonian. Now those are true human hunters

I think you mean The Ghost and the Darkness. With Michael Douglas co-starring. Excellent film and interesting opposing concept to Secondhand Lions which is also excellent.

Thanks for the correction Gunslinger.

Its hard to believe though. Two lions in that time frame enjoyed the thrill of the kill themselves compare to human hunters

I don't have a problem with people hunting animals like this, as long as (a) they do it legally/sustainably, and (b) don't brag about it. Seriously, most of these big-game hunters stalk their prey in vehicles and take 'em down while they're sleeping or distracted. You didn't best them in physical combat - you hit 'em from incredibly far off with a big-ass rifle from a safe position. They didn't stand a chance, and you didn't break a sweat. Stop acting like it was some kinda epic, life-or-death encounter.

TL;DR? Basically, this Far Side strip sums up my feelings about braggy big-game hunters.



~Tim?

Just walking in Africa is incredibly dangerous.

In addition, many game animals are very dangerous. If you miss or only injure you can suddenly become dinner, or roadkill.

I would be okay if the lion wins sometimes:




That's a crap your pants moment right there...