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Yeah I believe cincy believe this guy. And its not like I need a home address of the source or anything. But just going "this guy has a proven record" seems a bit light tbh... What most weirded me out though was the defensive attitude to being called on such a vague statement

Btw, I wonder where this box falls in relation to the rumoured Dark Eldar next/Nurgle in before that rumours. Was this just seen as "more orks" by people like Hastings or will DE/Nurgle never happen?

 azreal13 wrote:
In fairness, he's entitled to claim whatever he likes, just as you and everyone else are entitled to choose to believe it or not.

What you are NOT allowed to do is demand proof that he is unwilling to give. Either take it at face value, or don't. I for one believe cincy is sincere in what he's saying, he's been around here and active too long to be a troll, and if this doesn't pan out as a thing, it would be more a fault with the source than the messenger.

I completely agree. I'm not demanding proof, however, I was asking for a link since he says he isn't the rumor monger and it was someone that was 100%. What he appears to actually be saying is that his source is 100% and he does not want to reveal his source. That's cool; it just makes him the rumor monger.


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 Watching Paint Dry wrote:

All prices USD
Nobz $25
Gretchen $16.50
Kanz $46.25

WolfGuard Termi $50
10 Spacewolves $37.25

Total $175

Add in the two special charactors and some combination of rules or campaign and its a pretty good deal if its around $135

Even better price at $125.

So, it is basically :
Nobz $25
Gretchen $16.50
10 Space Wolves - $37.25
WolfGuard Termi $50

With 3 free Kans, a free mini rulebook, 2 free characters and a campaign book.

I'd say technically false as this is clearly a main release with new SW SC, new Campaign book as well as an Ork SC,

but I might give it a pass if the DE or Demons drop after that (but it's looking less likely)

 Gorlack wrote:
Yeah I believe cincy believe this guy. And its not like I need a home address of the source or anything. But just going "this guy has a proven record" seems a bit light tbh... What most weirded me out though was the defensive attitude to being called on such a vague statement

Btw, I wonder where this box falls in relation to the rumoured Dark Eldar next/Nurgle in before that rumours. Was this just seen as "more orks" by people like Hastings or will DE/Nurgle never happen?

It'll happen.

It has to, I wanna giant vomit mortar!

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I'd say technically false as this is clearly a main release with new SW SC, new Campaign book as well as an Ork SC,

but I might give it a pass if the DE or Demons drop after that (but it's looking less likely)

Yeah, I just updated the tracker for the 'next release'. Did you know that Brets pre-ordered last week? (according to some predictions)

I guess I shouldn't have bought 12 Kanz already.

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 Bull0 wrote:
There are so many breaks with tradition in this set I'm inclined to believe they've thrown it together quickly to try and sell some cynics on the new edition. Plus I was already inclined to believe that anyway because I'm still pretty wound up about 7th (didn't buy it, and haven't spent on GW since it happened, when I was averaging 50-70 a month on GW plastiCrack up until then)

Would you be horrified if discounted campaign sets with new plastic characters became a regular release for GW?
Sounds good to me. GW need to break some 'traditions'.

No, didn't mean it like that at all. I think it's sounding like a great value set if you're after the contents. If it does contain the full rules I will likely get it.

 plastictrees wrote:

 Bull0 wrote:
There are so many breaks with tradition in this set I'm inclined to believe they've thrown it together quickly to try and sell some cynics on the new edition. Plus I was already inclined to believe that anyway because I'm still pretty wound up about 7th (didn't buy it, and haven't spent on GW since it happened, when I was averaging 50-70 a month on GW plastiCrack up until then)

Would you be horrified if discounted campaign sets with new plastic characters became a regular release for GW?
Sounds good to me. GW need to break some 'traditions'.

The tradition of providing a low cost starter that gives new players a lower $$ barrier of entry and veteran players new sculpts (albeit monopose) would be a stupid to break.


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 Bull0 wrote:


No, didn't mean it like that at all. I think it's sounding like a great value set if you're after *ALL* the contents. If it does contain the full rules I will likely get it.

I corrected that for you. Previous starters were worth it in varying degrees if you wanted to start one of the two contained armies and the second one frequently ended up as a starter for someone else's army hooking two people with one kit. At this price where you get the same sculpts you can already buy and two plastic monopose starter quality characters "for free", I don't think it'll hook many players.

 pretre wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I'd say technically false as this is clearly a main release with new SW SC, new Campaign book as well as an Ork SC,

but I might give it a pass if the DE or Demons drop after that (but it's looking less likely)

Yeah, I just updated the tracker for the 'next release'. Did you know that Brets pre-ordered last week? (according to some predictions)

I was listening to a 2011 podcast last night that was reporting rumours of Bret's next week too!.... long week

$125 is pretty reasonable for the box. I'm impressed. If it's a general release it could actually see some movement. Close to 29% off retail to start not including the limited HQ's or the rulebook. Seems solid to me. If it wasn't wolves I'd probably grab a few just for the overall discount. Espeically if it goes to standard stores to sell.

£75. I could get on board for that.

I have Orks(but no Kans and more Grots are welcome to crew some third party Mek Gunz), I need 7th ed rules and I've never collected Wolves before.

There could be no 'lose' option for me.

Honestly, it looks like they took underperforming sets and lumped them together in a box with the rule book so everyone will buy one just to get the rule book.

Grey hunters are underperforming? They were the ultimate cheese till GK took the cake in 5th and were still undercosted relative to vanilla marines until the 6th edition vanilla codex evened things out.

Yeah, I am much more convinced by £75 than £80 (behavioural economics at work, probably, since I was already contemplating it at £80).

Im down for at least one.

I was looking at it from the Ork perspective, an imaginined Space Wolves sales were on the decline based on how old their codex was.

 warboss wrote:
I corrected that for you. Previous starters were worth it in varying degrees if you wanted to start one of the two contained armies and the second one frequently ended up as a starter for someone else's army hooking two people with one kit. At this price where you get the same sculpts you can already buy and two plastic monopose starter quality characters "for free", I don't think it'll hook many players.

Yeah, it's a lot more of a discount than that. It's a 30% discount not counting the two characters, the rulebook or the campaign book.

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 Bull0 wrote:


No, didn't mean it like that at all. I think it's sounding like a great value set if you're after *ALL* the contents. If it does contain the full rules I will likely get it.

I corrected that for you.

 Sasori wrote:
I highly doubt Canis Wolfborn goes away, since he has a model.

Captain Al'rahem, Zogrod Wartsnagga, Sly Marbo and probably someone I'm forgetting would like a word with you.

$125 is a pretty nice price for the Rulebook + some Wolves (not interested in Orks).

Nice, an extra fiver cheaper then predicted and i'm loving the quite retro box art.

 azreal13 wrote:
What you are NOT allowed to do is demand proof that he is unwilling to give. Either take it at face value, or don't. I for one believe cincy is sincere in what he's saying, he's been around here and active too long to be a troll, and if this doesn't pan out as a thing, it would be more a fault with the source than the messenger.

Exactly this. The rest of you lot need to back off.

Just waiting for the rulebook to hit.

Great release for Kan Wall orks I suppose or all grot army.

Don't play wolves, so unsure there.

 plastictrees wrote:
Would you be horrified if discounted campaign sets with new plastic characters became a regular release for GW?

Not me. This sounds like the kind of thing GW should be doing. If they want to get everyone to "Forge a Narrative" in lieu of writing a decent set of rules, then the very least they can do is amp up the narrative-related releases. Campaign books and boxed sets are the way to do that.

A few bits from GW to me:

-This is a one off item. Meaning they are making xxx amount of stormclaw sets, and that's pretty much it. It's not mean't to be the starter set for 7th edition. Now, I don't know what the actual number is. Could sell out in a week, could be around in a year. It's only getting one print run and when it's gone, it's gone. At some point in the next few weeks we'll see a DV re-release with the 7th edition rule book. I'm assuming the rulebook in SC and DV are the same, but do not have confirmation on that.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
I highly doubt Canis Wolfborn goes away, since he has a model.

Captain Al'rahem, Zogrod Wartsnagga, Sly Marbo and probably someone I'm forgetting would like a word with you.

Sergeant Naaman and Doom Rider also come to mind.

 mikhaila wrote:
A few bits from GW to me:

-This is a one off item. Meaning they are making xxx amount of stormclaw sets, and that's pretty much it. It's not mean't to be the starter set for 7th edition. Now, I don't know what the actual number is. Could sell out in a week, could be around in a year. It's only getting one print run and when it's gone, it's gone. At some point in the next few weeks we'll see a DV re-release with the 7th edition rule book. I'm assuming the rulebook in SC and DV are the same, but do not have confirmation on that.

Or they could sell a new one as a revolving 'starter' every three or so months, which would be awesome.

 mikhaila wrote:
-This is a one off item. Meaning they are making xxx amount of stormclaw sets, and that's pretty much it. It's not mean't to be the starter set for 7th edition. Now, I don't know what the actual number is. Could sell out in a week, could be around in a year. It's only getting one print run and when it's gone, it's gone. At some point in the next few weeks we'll see a DV re-release with the 7th edition rule book. I'm assuming the rulebook in SC and DV are the same, but do not have confirmation on that.

Just to clarify, when you say "one off", you mean "one print run" and not "GW will never do another campaign box again", right?

 Bull0 wrote:


No you didn't. I meant what I said, if the contents appeal to you it's a decent value set. Whether that's some or all the contents is obviously going to vary by individual, and you're being weirdly confrontational to make a prosaic sort of point. I remember why I backed off from Dakka for a while now!

You're taking a simple meme comment way too seriously. It wasn't meant to offend but you chose to take offense. If a joke makes you back off of dakka, you should likely back off the internet instead as it'll seem like a much more caustic place than it actually is without common sense and/or a sense of humor.

If Dark Sphere can knock their extra 20% off as well.. I think I might get three and restart Space Wolves.... again.

Also, large monster with handlers.. I wouldn't be opposed to that tbh.